What's new

Spurs Youth Thread 20/21

G Ron

Well-Known Member
Aug 24, 2012
2,040
7,663
It was BBLG but I'll be honest, I had high hopes for the lad too.
I'm still kinda holding onto some of them as he'd still young and clearly has talent, it just depends whether the application is there.

He needs a good loan, even if its just to increase his value.
Sorry to change the subject but has BBLG deleted his account? He doesn’t appear on any searches and I’ve not seen a post from him for ages.
 

McFlash

In the corner, eating crayons.
Oct 19, 2005
12,998
46,638
Sorry to change the subject but has BBLG deleted his account? He doesn’t appear on any searches and I’ve not seen a post from him for ages.
Think he got a ban, saw it in the Missing Members thread and he's now swimming in the mire that is TFC.
 

Delboy75

Well-Known Member
Jul 11, 2021
3,935
10,279
Clarke not as good as Dilan who we got 500k for, think we going to lose our shirt on Clarke unfortunately.

A player we spent £10m on goes on loan to a league 1 club. One of our own at the club since he was 8, stand out player in PL 2 gets sold to a club in Championship promotion race for £500k. Somebody please make it make sense ??‍♂️
 

taidgh

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2004
7,915
16,287
A player we spent £10m on goes on loan to a league 1 club. One of our own at the club since he was 8, stand out player in PL 2 gets sold to a club in Championship promotion race for £500k. Somebody please make it make sense ??‍♂️
Eh...because we hugely overspent on one, and the other wasn't deemed ready for the first team by a succession of managers? Markanday then didn't want to wait any longer and didn't sign a new deal in search of first team minutes elsewhere.

I understand the frustration, but the two cases aren't really related at all. Perhaps if Clarke had been repeatedly called up to the first team over Dilan, you might have a point, but the two pathways are independent of each other. Ultimately, Dilan wasn't rated highly enough/didn't want to stick around in the reserves and moved on . Nothing to do with the (seemingly bad) business of buying Clarke for 10m.
 

DannyNZ

Well-Known Member
Jul 3, 2017
1,855
5,058
A player we spent £10m on goes on loan to a league 1 club. One of our own at the club since he was 8, stand out player in PL 2 gets sold to a club in Championship promotion race for £500k. Somebody please make it make sense ??‍♂️
Sadly I only see two scenarios, either we just made a seriously bad decision based on a really poor assessment of Clarke’s potential or alternatively football is a business littered with suspect transactions. We definitely have form on the poor assessment front, this is certainly another roulette recruitment decision gone wrong.
 

Flobadob

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2014
3,637
12,369
How long are people going to moan about the Markanday situation for? It’s already getting boring. He never looked like a potential first team player, his contract wound down and then he hit a purple patch for 12-18 months, other interest in him clearly arose and he decided not to extend with us and go straight for first team football, which is a good career decision for someone his age.

I agree the club haven’t handled some youth players development well recently but I really don’t see what the club could have done to keep him. Offer him more money than he’s worth? Force the manager to pick him?
 

Blake Griffin

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2011
14,168
38,490
How long are people going to moan about the Markanday situation for? It’s already getting boring. He never looked like a potential first team player, his contract wound down and then he hit a purple patch for 12-18 months, other interest in him clearly arose and he decided not to extend with us and go straight for first team football, which is a good career decision for someone his age.

I agree the club haven’t handled some youth players development well recently but I really don’t see what the club could have done to keep him. Offer him more money than he’s worth? Force the manager to pick him?
players need an incentive to sign, had the club involved him during pre-season and the conference league then he may have seen a reason to stay. if we're just going to keep taking the stance of "sign a contract or you won't play" then expect this to happen again.
 

Flobadob

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2014
3,637
12,369
players need an incentive to sign, had the club involved him during pre-season and the conference league then he may have seen a reason to stay. if we're just going to keep taking the stance of "sign a contract or you won't play" then expect this to happen again.
To be fair I don’t remember Markanday playing well enough before last summer’s pre-season to warrant being involved over the guys that were from the youth academy. Obviously this season he was great but I’m not sure if he earned that opportunity on merit with his performances the previous season.

The word is Conte didn’t rate him enough to give him a run in the first team either, so it’s hard to see how you can especially blame the club for this one. It would have been nice to keep and earn a bit more money from his transfer of course but not every player is going to stick around just for the benefit of the club. In my eyes he made the right decision in leaving as he more than likely wouldn’t make it here and got a very good move to a top championship side. It was a smart decision from him and his advisors and it’s a real shame about his injury
 

Blake Griffin

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2011
14,168
38,490
To be fair I don’t remember Markanday playing well enough before last summer’s pre-season to warrant being involved over the guys that were from the youth academy. Obviously this season he was great but I’m not sure if he earned that opportunity on merit with his performances the previous season.

The word is Conte didn’t rate him enough to give him a run in the first team either, so it’s hard to see how you can especially blame the club for this one. It would have been nice to keep and earn a bit more money from his transfer of course but not every player is going to stick around just for the benefit of the club. In my eyes he made the right decision in leaving as he more than likely wouldn’t make it here and got a very good move to a top championship side. It was a smart decision from him and his advisors and it’s a real shame about his injury
most of the u23s were involved during pre-season. markanday's form at the back end of last season was enough to see him involved, certainly over some of those who were so clearly there was already a bit of a stand-off there with regards to his future. once we got into the season then his performances for the u23s should have seen him in the mix for the conference but again, nothing, this was the bench for the game at pacos for example:

40Austin
42White
47Clarke
48Paskotsi
50Cesay
51Craig
52Craig
53Lyons-Foster
55Mundle
56Bennett

a player needs a reason to sign a new deal so of course when nothing was forthcoming he looked elsewhere.

as for conte, clearly he has no interest in bringing a kid through and the teething issues that brings, he won't be around for any potential pay off so why would he bother? markanday isn't better than lucas so there's no reason to play him when all that matters is the short-term. once again i feel like you along with others are missing the point, i get that you're going to defend the club's every move but when you're losing talent for next to nothing then it should be examined as to why that is happening.

others brought up clarke because it just typifies the way this club has been run in recent years. sign a player for 10m who ends up in league 1 whilst another who has been at the club virtually all of his life ends up at a top championship club for a pittance.
 

EQP

EQP
Sep 1, 2013
8,060
30,028
Without the concern of European football for the rest of this season, I would like to see us loan out more U23 players. White, BLF and Fagan-Walcott should hopefully secure loans for the rest of the season. I think I read that Lavinier is heading out on loan as well.
 
Top