Match Threads Spurs vs Manchester City - Match Thread

[Nicki78]

Exactly this, a friend who works in Korea sometimes says it’s hard to understand how popular he is. Imagine Beckham at his peak x100.
Was my first game at the new ground and it is amazing how many Korean fans are there, all with kits, scarves etc. We would be stupid to sell him even if he was the worst player in the team. The fact that he is one of our best players is a big bonus.

I was in the North stand yesterday and i was joking with my friend that if we ever sold Son we would lose half of our fanbase.

 

[Ionman34]

Pretty annoyed with with every pundit harping on about the amount of chances city had and how lucky we were that they didn’t score.

No mention of the intensity of our defensive efforts, the amount of times players were there with crucial blocks or just enough to put the city players off.

Sure we road our luck at times but that was still the best display of Jose’s promised “defensive process” we have seen to date. You may not think it pretty, but it still deserves some acknowledgement

Of course it does, but apparently finding ways to win when you’re second best is only something Champions do.

For everyone else it’s just luck

 

[idontgetit]

You need to take off the spurs tinted glasses. Whilst I agree that Sterlings challenge should have probably warranted a red card, I have absolutely no doubt it wasn't done with any malicious intent. It was just a player challenging hard for the ball and Sterling's foot went over the top of it. I was more annoyed he wasn't booked for this obvious dive on the penalty rebound

I think it was actually a little unlucky with the way the ball squeezed out of the tackle and he ended up going through on Alli, there wasn't malice there. If he'd been off his feet it would have been a red.

 

[JimmyG2]

I am glad someone has pointed out what a disaster Aurier is! I cannot believe he is picked every game! I have always said he fouls far too much, cannot get a cross into the box and gives away too many penalties! I done a little stat search on him yesterday, how does Jose not see this...
Sent off twice this season
Committed 62 fouls (I think 3 were pens)
Of 180 crosses only 30 were successful
I hate to slag off any footballer as they are undoubtedly better than me, but Aurier is one of the worst I've seen at Spurs!

Very good start Sir.
Opinion backed up
with relevant stats.

Like Walker,
before him,
he is a good player,
seriously undermined
by a tendency
to fuck things up.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

I hear you but does the camera pan to our Brazilian fans when Moura scores, or our Argentine guests when Lamela or Lo Ceslo scores? No it does not. While I love to have them here, I too find it irritating bordering on condescending when the Camera always pans to our Korean friends when Son scores.

Asian players still make up a very small percentage of players across Europe, Brazillians/Argentinians and Black players are a normal part of European/English football. We have the biggest Asian player in the world playing for us right now it kind of is a big deal.

If Sarpreet Singh makes it Bayern Munich it's not going to be a small achivement is it? Imgaine how many more Indians will be taking an interest in Bundesliga and Football.

 

[mightyspur]

I am glad someone has pointed out what a disaster Aurier is! I cannot believe he is picked every game! I have always said he fouls far too much, cannot get a cross into the box and gives away too many penalties! I done a little stat search on him yesterday, how does Jose not see this...
Sent off twice this season
Committed 62 fouls (I think 3 were pens)
Of 180 crosses only 30 were successful
I hate to slag off any footballer as they are undoubtedly better than me, but Aurier is one of the worst I've seen at Spurs!

Surely this is only useful information if you look up the same stats on other players in the same position to see how he fares?

Looking only at Premier League appearances on premierleague.com

Aurier vs Alexander-Arnold

20 appearances vs. 25
37 interceptions vs. 33
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 38 (won 24)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 54 (21 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 13
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

He's obviously a LOT busier than TAA so we could compare him to a player in a team that defends more

Aurier vs. Max Aarons

20 appearances vs. 23
37 interceptions vs. 16
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 29 (won 22)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 44 (14 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 10
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

I think that shows that he's actually doing OK versus other players in the same position.

And if he is one of the worst you have ever seen at Spurs, then you can't be very old

 

[Ronwol196061]

The second part of your post wasn't a fact - that's what people are disagreeing with.

Are you saying it wasn't a fact that he didn't mention Ndombele?
or the fact I said I think Mourinho is missing something (thats an opinion)

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Surely this is only useful information if you look up the same stats on other players in the same position to see how he fares?

Looking only at Premier League appearances on premierleague.com

Aurier vs Alexander-Arnold

20 appearances vs. 25
37 interceptions vs. 33
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 38 (won 24)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 54 (21 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 13
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

He's obviously a LOT busier than TAA so we could compare him to a player in a team that defends more

Aurier vs. Max Aarons

20 appearances vs. 23
37 interceptions vs. 16
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 29 (won 22)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 44 (14 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 10
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

I think that shows that he's actually doing OK versus other players in the same position.

And if he is one of the worst you have ever seen at Spurs, then you can't be very old

I'm glad you have put this together I think SA is underrated. I quite like him I know he can be a liability but I like his style he gets stuck in. I dont think our right handside is as weak as when trips was there

 

[Ionman34]

Surely this is only useful information if you look up the same stats on other players in the same position to see how he fares?

Looking only at Premier League appearances on premierleague.com

Aurier vs Alexander-Arnold

20 appearances vs. 25
37 interceptions vs. 33
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 38 (won 24)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 54 (21 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 13
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

He's obviously a LOT busier than TAA so we could compare him to a player in a team that defends more

Aurier vs. Max Aarons

20 appearances vs. 23
37 interceptions vs. 16
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 29 (won 22)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 44 (14 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 10
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

I think that shows that he's actually doing OK versus other players in the same position.

And if he is one of the worst you have ever seen at Spurs, then you can't be very old

I think Aurier has improved a great deal since JM was appointed, but he still has that “must win the ball” mindset no matter what area of the pitch he’s in.

That can be coached out of him though and should be a priority for JM where he’s concerned.

I would suggest one of those dog shock collars that activates when he’s inside the 18 yard area. Anytime he tries to make a challenge in the area it goes off.

Pain is a wonderful teacher dontchaknow...

 

[Shadydan]

I am glad someone has pointed out what a disaster Aurier is! I cannot believe he is picked every game! I have always said he fouls far too much, cannot get a cross into the box and gives away too many penalties! I done a little stat search on him yesterday, how does Jose not see this...
Sent off twice this season
Committed 62 fouls (I think 3 were pens)
Of 180 crosses only 30 were successful
I hate to slag off any footballer as they are undoubtedly better than me, but Aurier is one of the worst I've seen at Spurs!

Pretty sure Jose does see this,but I'm also sure he sees this:

 

[Cavehillspur]

Serge

 

[Shadydan]

You need to take off the spurs tinted glasses. Whilst I agree that Sterlings challenge should have probably warranted a red card, I have absolutely no doubt it wasn't done with any malicious intent. It was just a player challenging hard for the ball and Sterling's foot went over the top of it. I was more annoyed he wasn't booked for this obvious dive on the penalty rebound

I think the problem with Sterling's challenge is that whilst it wasn't malicious or intentional Dele still got hurt by it, what if it broke his ankle are we saying that it's a red? Son's challenge on Gomes wasn't in any way malicious but he still got sent off...where do you draw the line?

 

[nailsy]

Are you saying it wasn't a fact that he didn't mention Ndombele?
or the fact I said I think Mourinho is missing something (thats an opinion)

The second part, the bit I highlighted, about Mourinho missing something wasn't a fact. People were disagreeing with that.

 

[DiscoD1882]

troll level 100.

 

[Wig]

Modric often made the pass for the assist (the assist for the assist, if you will). I think GLC looks like he'll do the same.

GLC + Ndombele + Son/Kane/Bergwijn = Goalsssssssss

 

[cider spurs]

I think the problem with Sterling's challenge is that whilst it wasn't malicious or intentional Dele still got hurt by it, what if it broke his ankle are we saying that it's a red? Son's challenge on Gomes wasn't in any way malicious but he still got sent off...where do you draw the line?

Spot on.

Don't understand all the "Sterling's not like that" or, "he didn't do it intentionally".

Couldn't give a feck, bloke could go to church every Sunday and collect shopping for all the old dears.

Foul is a foul, and I reckon it warranted a red, his personality should not come into it.

Even Charlie feckin Adam must've been considered not a dirty player until his first offence.

Intentional or not. It happened, was bad, and deserved red.

 

[degoose]

Surely this is only useful information if you look up the same stats on other players in the same position to see how he fares?

Looking only at Premier League appearances on premierleague.com

Aurier vs Alexander-Arnold

20 appearances vs. 25
37 interceptions vs. 33
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 38 (won 24)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 54 (21 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 13
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

He's obviously a LOT busier than TAA so we could compare him to a player in a team that defends more

Aurier vs. Max Aarons

20 appearances vs. 23
37 interceptions vs. 16
66 tackles (won 53) vs. 29 (won 22)
53 clearances (32 headed) vs. 44 (14 headed)
42 aerial battles won vs. 10
24 fouls committed vs. 18
2 penalties conceded vs. 0

I think that shows that he's actually doing OK versus other players in the same position.

And if he is one of the worst you have ever seen at Spurs, then you can't be very old

Spot on with that stats reply and some things that many fans miss. He isn't some headless chicken, he is actually doing a great job but he does sadly have that mad moment in the penalty area. He certainly though is not a terrible right back. Also that aerial battle one is something i notice every game, he isn't the tallest right back he leaps like a fricking salmon and wins a lot in his defending duals.

 

[buckley]

Souness _" Sterling is not that kind of player " Well nobody is that kind of a player until they get their first red card .
This statement is so irellevent that I find it hard to believe that one of the dirtiest players to step on a football field made it .
Scholes was " not that kind of player " and got away with it time after time we played in a game against United when I swear he should have had two red cards plus several yellows but "he's not that kind of player " when in fact he was one of the dirtiest .
Someone eventually sent him of in some game and he then had to reign it in a bit .
Making "not that kind of player " statement should be banned.

 

[Spursmatty87]

No where can I witness this glory?

Didn’t see it all but you can just see on motd whilst sonny goes off celebrating, Lamela goes to get the ball with Edison to slow them down

 

[mightyspur]

I think the problem with Sterling's challenge is that whilst it wasn't malicious or intentional Dele still got hurt by it, what if it broke his ankle are we saying that it's a red? Son's challenge on Gomes wasn't in any way malicious but he still got sent off...where do you draw the line?

I was primarily responding to where the poster said

Stirling went over the top to infringe hurt on All. straight red - it was disgusting and cowardly on a fellow England player. Stirling is a little shit. Why wasn't he called out by others-whats wrong here?

On the balance of things, I think it should have been a red card malicious intent or not.