Spurs and VAR
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lippyspur
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He did well not to send Xhaka off for 2 clearly bookable offences before giving him a yellow for his 7th foul of the game when it was done and dusted?and for booking our players for so much as daring to breath on someone
Timbo Tottenham
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Not sure why their offside ‘goal’ went to VAR today as it seemed the ref had blown his whistle before they scored.
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Yeah I'm not sure how people view such a performance but still he wasn't great, was he?
lippyspur
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Thought he was awful today. Shockingly bad referee in my opinion, I'm sure it was him who gave the Terry goal against us that Ledley had clearly stopped on the line in the final before as well.
Actually the only reason we didn't have a referee at the World Cup, was because our nominated referee, Mark Clattenburg left the country and we couldn't replace.
In respect of 2 decisions today, Dele's was outside the box, as soon as VAR would have seen that, it would not do a check.
And Kane has to stop this, is getting a reputation, and referees will be more tempted not to give more clear-cut penalties against him now. No penalty. Last week he didn't dive however, just initiated the contact, this week he does dive.
And Kane has to stop this, is getting a reputation, and referees will be more tempted not to give more clear-cut penalties against him now. No penalty. Last week he didn't dive however, just initiated the contact, this week he does dive.
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Isn't there a rule along the lines of "if the foul continues inside the box" it's a penalty?
I'm sure I've heard that said before.
spursfan77
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If we hadn’t of got the rub of the green against Man City then I bet we’d of got one of the penalty decisions in the last two games. It was too good to be true that it would save us every game like I was hoping. Just goes to show how regularly we are done over by the officials.
Shadydan
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It's clear that they're not using VAR the way it should be used, only in extreme circumstances they are using the clear and obvious error rule so we were never getting that penalty.
Lighty64
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Isn't there a rule along the lines of "if the foul continues inside the box" it's a penalty?
I'm sure I've heard that said before.
Alli's feet are outside, but was definitely a foul.
with the Kane incident had that been the defender defending his ground (looking for contact) he would of got the free kick. Kane is perfectly allowed to protect his ground and not be shoved. he was then penalised for what looked like handball, which wouldn't of happen if he wasn't pushed. if it had been body contact that knocked Kane over I could understand it being classed as accidental collision, but pushing/shoving is a foul.
But he was thrown to the floor by his body. Which was inside the box.
Isn't there a rule along the lines of "if the foul continues inside the box" it's a penalty?
I'm sure I've heard that said before.
Sort of, if the referee hasn't blown his whistle, and another foul happens inside the box, including continuation from initial incident, then he can deem that he played advantage from the first incident.
But in this incident that was not the case. Dele was fouled (or at least had a coming together) outside the box, and then dived forward inside the box after any contact had happened.
VAR cannot check that, as can only check for penalties, sending offs (not for second yellow though), mistaken identity and goal/no goal decisions. This does not fall into any of those categories
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I'd need to watch it again but that's not how I remember it at all!
I haven't found a clip of it yet though.
Lighty64
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I'm sure it's where his feet are at the time, even if his body finished up in the area. even after the foul I think his legs were still outside. unfortunately VAR don't do fouls unless it's a possible red card
Ash_1882
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Can't speak for everyone but I really don't like celebrating disallowed goals, a situation easily avoided in a pre-VAR world with a quick glance over to the lino and/or ref. Sadly VAR isn't instant like a ref's whistle or a linesman's flag and it is starting to affect my enjoyment of goals. Specifically when at the games, as you are more invested.
Fractional offsides, slight handballs and suchlike are easily missed in real time but easily captured by VAR. That, combined with the fact that every goal is checked, and I just feel like my celebrations are more muted as a result. Not everyone is bothered about celebrating a goal that is ultimately disallowed (whether instantly by a lino's flag or after 60-90 seconds by VAR), but I am. And I fear that as more goals get disallowed by VAR, the effect this has on the spontaneity of goal celebrations will become more prominent for fans and for players.
If you don't go over you don't get a penalty Harry is only doing what others do and for me some you win some you lose .
An almost identical incident against Arsenal was given as a penalty . Different ref different outcome just keep on going over Harry as you will definitely not get a penalty if you stay on your feet but you may get a penalty if you go over .
Although after last week against Newcastle you won't get a penalty even if your rugby tackled.
An almost identical incident against Arsenal was given as a penalty . Different ref different outcome just keep on going over Harry as you will definitely not get a penalty if you stay on your feet but you may get a penalty if you go over .
Although after last week against Newcastle you won't get a penalty even if your rugby tackled.
Disagree, both this week and last week he would/could have got a shot off.
Much better option than trying to con the referee, as he did this week especially.
Im going to be honest and this isnt aimed at anyone here but just across the football fan base as a whole - we are all a bunch of moaning muppets when it comes to referees and decisions. Just too much is said over referees when in actual fact as fans we ought to look closer to home i.e. the team as to why shit happens.
My view was the referee was good yesterday. Yes he made mistakes i.e. the yellow for Xhaka and no excuses for that but to moan and say the refereeing is shit is not justified. Poor refereeing performances will happen the same as poor player performances but doesnt mean theyre shit. Mistakes happen and we MUST accept that.
The referee did not concede the two goal to let a two goal slip - that was us.
My view was the referee was good yesterday. Yes he made mistakes i.e. the yellow for Xhaka and no excuses for that but to moan and say the refereeing is shit is not justified. Poor refereeing performances will happen the same as poor player performances but doesnt mean theyre shit. Mistakes happen and we MUST accept that.
The referee did not concede the two goal to let a two goal slip - that was us.
