Rose: Tottenham want me gone but I will only leave when my contract expires

[yiddopaul]

Way to endear yourselves to the fans. This is becoming more and more of a trend. Too much player power. Something needs to be changed in their contracts. They can down tools, only give 10% and there's nothing we can do. Sack them, we have to pay up their remaining contract. Only in sport can you suck at your job, and not get fired, or at least continue to pick up your massive salary.

 

[Johnny J]

Our longest serving (I think?) player openly in conflict with the club. What a fucking mess we are in. If Poch doesn't want him here, stop fucking playing him.

 

[yiddopaul]

And thats the way it should be. I would do thst. This is what happens when u underpay ur players. Its our karma

I assume you mean underpay them "relatively". I'm sick of over privileged poncy players moaning about their wages. I don't care if another player in another club earns more. They're still getting waaaay too much money for what they do.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrown]

It's starting to seem a bit like a slowly unravelling, systematic, financial mutiny against ENIC when so many players deliberately are running down their contracts. As if they've all met up off the record, and agreed to say to ENIC "OK, you've underpaid us for X years, the payback will be that we have decided to leave for nothing so you'll get naught for us, whilst we'll be pocketing a handsome sign-on fee from our next clubs to replace what you ought to have been paying us". It's like really the ultimate, systematic fuck you.

This is almost to a word the suspicion I have had for some time. Levy got stung, his tight fisted policy /wage cap works if you can get individuals to go along. A hike for Dele a hike for Harry, the rest rewarded very sparingly. If you get together and stick to a threshold beneath which you will not go... Collective bargaining. He has left too many unhappy players and its had devastating affect on our form. It's not even complicated if you are six months from being out of contract would you risk an Andre Gomes type injury. It must creep into your head and I seriously fear a relegation battle as a consequence.

 

[lol]

I assume you mean underpay them "relatively". I'm sick of over privileged poncy players moaning about their wages. I don't care if another player in another club earns more. They're still getting waaaay too much money for what they do.

In absolute amount. Of course. If relative, too low. If you dont care it doesnt really matter. But just know that it will forever remain a main reason to why players will leave.

 

[carpediem991]

In absolute amount. Of course. If relative, too low. If you dont care it doesnt really matter. But just know that it will forever remain a main reason to why players will leave.

If he feels his salary is too low he is free to move the club and earn more. Somehow it is not happening.

 

[yiddopaul]

In absolute amount. Of course. If relative, too low. If you dont care it doesnt really matter. But just know that it will forever remain a main reason to why players will leave.

So you would want us as a club to spend more than we can to keep players. I know the stadium drum keeps getting brought up, but it is a valid reason. We have put certain player's salaries up since the stadium has been in use (or around about then), so we are willing to give good contracts to people, but we haven't been in a position to always do that.

 

[Trix]

Which in itself is a daft thing to say. Imagine a decent club come in for him - 3 year deal, £100k pw, £10m transfer fee......he’d say no would he? Course not. Just playing up to the press.

Look at Trippier, he had a host of clubs interested and ended up at a massive team in Atletico. Similar thing could happen.

Different thing altogether. It may be wrong, but his self confessed personal issues are going to be sticking point for a lot of teams. That's not taking into account his age, form and constant outbursts in the press. Someone will take him for sure but it certainly won't be the calibre of club that Trips was attracting

 

[Flashp]

Different thing altogether. It may be wrong, but his self confessed personal issues are going to be sticking point for a lot of teams. That's not taking into account his age, form and constant outbursts in the press. Someone will take him for sure but it certainly won't be the calibre of club that Trips was attracting

Agree, the links to Watford on deadline day says it all really.

That Poch then keeps picking him regularly, is the real issue here. It could be defended if he showed some form and level near that of his 15/16 and 16/17 seasons, but he's nowhere near.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrown]

The total failure of the management to replace refresh the fullback positions which were essential to our best football under Pochettino, makes you wonder if there is any kind of joined up thinking at all.

 

[UbeAstard]

I posted this the other week on a different thread but my mate who is well in at Watford told me that Rose was all agreed in the summer and at the last minute DL went from accepting a £14m offer to upping his valuation to £20m.
Watford declined so the deal fell over....

Watford have no reason not to have gone public about this, but no the reliable source is always 'someone close to the club'. Some of the ones I recall are, 'Grealish is a done deal', 'Sol Campbell to Man United is a done deal' (that was a ManU fan I met on holiday). Give all them statements the same amount of trust.

 

[Stavrogin]

This is almost to a word the suspicion I have had for some time. Levy got stung, his tight fisted policy /wage cap works if you can get individuals to go along. A hike for Dele a hike for Harry, the rest rewarded very sparingly. If you get together and stick to a threshold beneath which you will not go... Collective bargaining. He has left too many unhappy players and its had devastating affect on our form. It's not even complicated if you are six months form being out of contract would you risk an Andre Gomes type injury. It must creep into your head and I seriously fear a relegation battle as a consequence.

That's not really the issue though.

We were clearly were happy to sell Rose (and others) but no one was interested - or at least no one suitable. Didn't we try to sell Rose to Watford and he rejected it?

I think the problem is more that a few players were less desirable than they might have thought. As people have said, Rose has been open about his difficulties; Eriksen seemed to want Real/Barca but they were never going to push the boat for him as they did Hazzard. Alderweireld may have become too old.

It could be a natural, unlucky side-effect of becoming so successful that there are very few appealing moves available for a handful of wantaway players. It could even be because other clubs are actively trying to undermine us.

But this is not really a systemic problem. Rose has been on the way out for a while. Ditto Alderweireld. Eriksen's time with us came to an end. Wanyama seems a reduced prescence and hardly appealing. Overall, it seems more that we cannot sell certain players for a variety of reasons.

 

[double0]

That's what Pochettino has to deal with. Eriksen Toby Wanyama poss Jan the same and Levy will not buy until he can shift these players wages.

 

[Hakkz]

And thats the way it should be. I would do thst. This is what happens when u underpay ur players. Its our karma

Yeah, poor sods.

 

[TasSpur]

I've thought for a while that while the stadium was being built that the club would have been saying to its players "just stick with us and once the stadium is complete you will be properly rewarded". It seems like that promise has been forgotten and the players are saying "well f*&k you then... we kept our part of the bargain..." we have a serious problem..

 

[UbeAstard]

I've thought for a while that while the stadium was being built that the club would have been saying to its players "just stick with us and once the stadium is complete you will be properly rewarded". It seems like that promise has been forgotten and the players are saying "well f*&k you then... we kept our part of the bargain..." we have a serious problem..

So what you have 'thought for a while......the club would have been saying..' Is a broken promise? Thats like 2 + 2 =9!

 

[Jenko]

Rose can be the best paid player in the reserves watching his career rot. We owe him nothing else since his infamous interview and he has never won us silverware. With every shit performance his tiny legacy gets smaller still (all his doing).

 

[jolsnogross]

It's so funny to read all the emotional bitterness toward Rose here. He's simply clarifying his position at the club, which is that the club have told him they will not offer him a new contract. And that he's not interested in cutting short his current contract. He's still the best left-back we have and is refreshingly honest about his poor form. Characterizing this as an 'outburst' or similar is just silly.

The club have made their position clear, presumably because they don't think he'll be good enough for us beyond his current deal. And he has made his position clear. Poch should certainly keep playing him this season and next unless he's got a better option.

Whatever about left back, you really have to wonder what the decision making team (including Poch and Levy) have been thinking as regards our right backs. That has been a real mess becasue we essentially are operating without a specialist right back that the manager trusts.

 

[poc]

Danny has been one of my favourite players over the past few years but his timing with this stinks. Really is not necessary to air this in public given our current situation. Further evidence for me that MP has lost the players or at least a fair few of them. I hope RS is played and stays fit since I’d still play Danny over Davies.

 

[Sir Henry]

One of the few poisons at our club. Unfortunately we have to endure 18 more months of his weekly podcast directly to newspapers and even more unfortunate at his next club he'll be sure to mention how mean Spurs are to him.

This boy needs proper mental health help, its quite imperative that he is in front of the gender dysphoria folks too.