Robinson Penalty Saves

[double0]

Some keepers just have more luck than others when it comes to pens. Robbo has NO luck.

I wouldn't use the word luck. It's more lack of technique IMO.

 

[paul_1979yid]

I wouldn't use the word luck. It's more lack of technique IMO.

I see what u r saying but i reckon it has to be at least 70% luck. If you guess the right side then unless its a blinding pen u will prob save it. Right? :shrug:

 

[double0]

I see what u r saying but i reckon it has to be at least 70% luck. If you guess the right side then unless its a blinding pen u will prob save it. Right? :shrug:

Its quite hard for me to be subjective as I really don't rate Robinson and personally think his a liability (not totally blaming him for the pens as Jenas could/should has won it) ,but look back on those pens Gomes got much closer to our pens and his pen save was absolutely world class at full stretch.

Robinson got nowhere close to any of the other pens. The pen save was IMO more down to a bad pen kick which was straight at him, that was luck. Whereas Gomes pen save from Jenas was IMO showed a greater technique.

 

[paul_1979yid]

Its quite hard for me to be subjective as I really don't rate Robinson and personally think his a liability (not totally blaming him for the pens as Jenas could/should has won it) ,but look back on those pens Gomes got much closer to our pens and his pen save was absolutely world class at full stretch.

Robinson got nowhere close to any of the other pens. The pen save was IMO more down to a bad pen kick which was straight at him, that was luck. Whereas Gomes pen save from Jenas was IMO showed a greater technique.

True.

I do like Robbo but even i have to admit that when it comes to pens i never feel confident that he will save them

 

[SpurSince57]

I think the word you're searching for is 'objective', not 'subjective', because subjective is what you're actually being. Jenas tried to be too cute, telegraphed his intention, and fired in a weak shot at a very comfortable height.

If it hadn't been for Robinson's saves in the first leg the game would have been a lost cause anyway.

 

[paul_1979yid]

I think the word you're searching for is 'objective', not 'subjective', because subjective is what you're actually being. Jenas tried to be too cute, telegraphed his intention, and fired in a weak shot at a very comfortable height.

If it hadn't been for Robinson's saves in the first leg the game would have been a lost cause anyway.

I have said this before but although JJ's pen was poor surely he is not as much to blame as Chimbonda who did nt even hit the target???? Only 12 yards out, how hard can it be?

 

[double0]

I think the word you're searching for is 'objective', not 'subjective', because subjective is what you're actually being. Jenas tried to be too cute, telegraphed his intention, and fired in a weak shot at a very comfortable height.

If it hadn't been for Robinson's saves in the first leg the game would have been a lost cause anyway.

I was waiting on you to pick up on the deliberate mistake.

 

[SpurSince57]

I imagine Everton supporters are asking the same about Yakubu, who has far less excuse. Chimbonda's was rubbish too, although at least he had the right idea; the trouble was, the execution was awful. The vast majority of penalties that get saved get saved because they're poor penalties. Defoe and Keane have both let us down from the spot this season.

And no manager picks his keeper because he's got a particular knack with penalties, because you hope you're not going to be giving that many away. Going by that logic, Benitez would still have Dudek between the sticks.

 

[sloth]

Gomez said that saving penalties is not luck it's about holding your nerve and not moving until the striker's hit it. You could see the difference between the two on Wednesday. Robbo just leapt one way or another and the kick taker simply hit it the other way. Gomez made it hard every time for our strikers and that ramped the pressure for each one. To be fair, Robbo's not much kop when he has time to think about things, even on free-kicks he's a tendency to lose his nerve and guess.

Anyway, he had his best game for a long time on Wednesday but he's 100% gone come the summer and I for one am glad of that.

 

[SpurSince57]

Yes, we'll have someone new to slag off. I can't wait.

 

[N10toN17]

All the pressure is on the penalty taker, if it's taken properly they score, even if the keeper goes the right way, so it's up to the keeper to show some character between the sticks, try and out phyche the pen taker, put him off, wave your hands about, delay the penalty, all the tricks you can think of, Gomez looked the part and cranked the pressure up on our players, Robbo didn't.

Keepers invariably win penalty shoot outs.

Ultimately over the two legs it's their keeper that has got them through, when matches are tight it makes the difference and is why we are out.

 

[SpurSince57]

So, nothing to do with good scoring opportunities being spurned in both legs, then.

 

[Tottenham_OZpur]

Some keepers just have more luck than others when it comes to pens. Robbo has NO luck.

for me in regard to penalty saves, the best keepers are the ones that do not just guess, sure they will not save every penalty, but they will save poorly placed and weakly struck penalties

Robbo just pickes a side and thats why he will never be one of the best at saving penalties

 

[N10toN17]

So, nothing to do with good scoring opportunities being spurned in both legs, then.

Imo their keepers saves at key times has got them through, yes chances were missed by both teams, but how exactly do PSV come back if Steeds chance at the end goes in?

Ifs and buts I know.

 

[chrissivad]

If you check the Telegraph stats, which cover the past three seasons, Green is the penalty king this season, and Friedel has the best record overall. Robbo has one, the same as Reina and VdS. Cech has made none, but I don't know how many penalties he's had to face.

Really, it's a bit of an irrelevance, and on the whole the ones that do get saved are the crap ones.

SOmeone told me that the last two penalty shootouts Chelsea have faced they have lost both, with Cech saving a grand total of 0.

Not sure if its true or not though, haven't gone to look to find out.

 

[SpurSince57]

Imo their keepers saves at key times has got them through, yes chances were missed by both teams, but how exactly do PSV come back if Steeds chance at the end goes in?

Ifs and buts I know.

And as I said above, if it hadn't been for Robbo's saves in the first leg we might as well have emailed in the result.

 

[paul_1979yid]

And as I said above, if it hadn't been for Robbo's saves in the first leg we might as well have emailed in the result.

May as well have done that now anyway! :rofl:

 

[drjimmy]

Gomez seems to have let his publicity machine get a head start - kidology rules! :lol:

Penalty-taking & penalty-saving are both 'confidence' things.

The GK is on a hiding to nothing - he is not expected to save it & if he does, he's a hero!;a penalty taker is expected to score it, & if he doesn't, he's a mug!

If the taker isn't used to it (Zokora/Chimbonda/O'Hara etc) then the pendulum swings in favour of the GK. If it's a Berbatov, then you back him to plonk it in.

Otherwise, it's a lottery......... just substitute the pens, for 6
numbers & see how many you 'score' on an average week.

 

[sloth]

Yes, we'll have someone new to slag off. I can't wait.

Trouble is SS you lump everyone who criticises in one handy heap, the better to dismiss them, but I think you're in danger of deceiving yourself if you think the criticism Robbo receives stems from the same "got to slag someone" source.

My advice would be to ignore the usual bollocks but engage with opinions fairly arrived at and expressed. Apart from anything else it will mean your opinions will more likely be received in the same spirit.

 

[paul_1979yid]

Trouble is SS you lump everyone who criticises in one handy heap, the better to dismiss them, but I think you're in danger of deceiving yourself if you think the criticism Robbo receives stems from the same "got to slag someone" source.

My advice would be to ignore the usual bollocks but engage with opinions fairly arrived at and expressed. Apart from anything else it will mean your opinions will more likely be received in the same spirit.

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