Randal Kolo Muani

[worcestersauce]

Very much likely in the minority here but i'd be wary of splurging nigh on all the Kane money on a direct replacement.

Muani looks a talent but if we are talking close to £80m that's a big premium and I think we are better served at this moment in time building the squad up.

I figured that's how we'd do it but I now believe Kane going gives us a turbo start allowing us to bring certain events forward. Personally I think Harry Kane is on board with that too, another reason he's happy to go this year. If this is the man and it's doable then we should do it now.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Muani scored more non penalty goals than Vlahovic despite having lower xG (also outperforms Vlahovic in every area of that chart bar xG).

Muani was playing for a much weaker team than Vlahovic, Ramos etc yet still put up good all round numbers. It's no surprise he had less xG playing in a weaker side too.

In Ange's system which would focus his play, I think he could really develop and I think he's got a lot more to his game than Vlahovic, who I've had more and more concerns over the more I've watched him.

Vlahovic is playing in the worst Juve team I have seen in years.

We know better than most not to judge a player based on Juve performances.

 

[Albertbarich]

I'd be the most amazed/stunned I've ever been if we spend anywhere near what they would want for him. Especially with. A 60 million pound very marketable centre forward in desperate need of games at the club.

 

[N'Obody]

Kolo Muani is the guy I want us to sign. He just seems like he's ready to step up to the next level. He has something special about him. His playstyle is very similar to Mbappe in the way he moves and he is also a proper team player.

I've watched him a few times and everytime I've seen him, he's always on the move and trying to cause problems. He's exactly the type of striker who would work wonders in Anges system and will probably go up another level playing with better players too.

 

[Japhet]

These graphics are great if you are comparing players playing the same system, with the same philosophy and instruction and with similar players around them. If they are playing in very different systems/philosophies I'd expect the numbers to be very different even before you told me who the players were.

Doesn't that apply to all stats, and as a result any data based recruitment strategy? One of the reasons why I think stats are often misleading and sometimes completely useless.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Who would you prefer?

Last season's stats in all competitions:
Muani - 23 goals + 17 assists (40 goal contributions)
Vlahovic - 14 goals + 4 assists (18 goal contributions)

Considering Kane does the role of a no.9 + no.10 simultaneously, Muani would seem the more suitable replacement imo. The idea of Muani linking up with Son / Kulu / Maddison does excite me...I could see them scoring and creating a LOT of goals collectively. Also, Muani appears to be significantly quicker (acceleration + speed) than Vlahovic, which seems a better fit for how I anticipate we'll play under Ange.

It's worth noting that Ange's system has essentially replaced a CB with Maddison, compared to how we played under Conte & Jose, so perhaps there is less need for our no.9 to drop deep like Kane has been doing so effectively.

 

[worcestersauce]

Last season's stats in all competitions:
Muani - 23 goals + 17 assists (40 goal contributions)
Vlahovic - 14 goals + 4 assists (28 goal contributions)

Considering Kane does the role of a no.9 + no.10 simultaneously, Muani would seem the more suitable replacement imo. The idea of Muani linking up with Son / Kulu / Maddison does excite me...I could see them scoring and creating a LOT of goals collectively. Also, Muani appears to be significantly quicker (acceleration + speed) than Vlahovic, which seems a better fit for how I anticipate we'll play under Ange.

It's worth noting that Ange's system has essentially replaced a CB with Maddison, compared to how we played under Conte & Jose, so perhaps there is less need for our no.9 to drop deep like Kane has been doing so effectively.

Is that 14 assists - 28 or
4 assists - 18?

 

[BorjeSpurs]

Sick and tired of us dealing with amateurs like Charlie Kane, hopefully this will.... oh ffs.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Fuck me, an actual ITK link to Muani?

I know I’ve been very pessimistic about him joining in the Kane thread but this is purely down to his price and nothing more.

If it’s genuinely a possibility, inject it straight into my veins. We honestly couldn’t do any better. He is absolute class.

A front 3 of Son, Muani and Kulu offers a ton of flexibility in positions, trickery and pace. With Maddison and Bentancur feeding them from behind, we could be looking at a really deadly front 3.

 

[Powder Keg]

Last season's stats in all competitions:
Muani - 23 goals + 17 assists (40 goal contributions)
Vlahovic - 14 goals + 4 assists (28 goal contributions)

Considering Kane does the role of a no.9 + no.10 simultaneously, Muani would seem the more suitable replacement imo. The idea of Muani linking up with Son / Kulu / Maddison does excite me...I could see them scoring and creating a LOT of goals collectively. Also, Muani appears to be significantly quicker (acceleration + speed) than Vlahovic, which seems a better fit for how I anticipate we'll play under Ange.

It's worth noting that Ange's system has essentially replaced a CB with Maddison, compared to how we played under Conte & Jose, so perhaps there is less need for our no.9 to drop deep like Kane has been doing so effectively.

+ could play Muani and Richarlison (with Muani on the right). Vlahovic looks like an easier deal though as Juve seem to want to sell. Both would be very good options. Think Muani has 4 years left on his contract...

 

[jpascavitz]

I'd be very happy with him coming in and he'd probably be my top choice. Obviously it would come with a big investment, which provides me with doubts.

For France and Frankfurt he's only played a few matches at RF, so would expect him to be ST the majority of the time. However, with no Europe this season I'd be really content with a front 5:

Son/Solomon - Muani/Richarlsion - Kulu/(Muani)

The sixth position could be a youth player (Devine?). If being greedy would want Perisic/Gil hang around for depth, just can't help shaking the feeling that our squad will have to be smaller this season to keep everyone remotely happy.

 

[Sandro30]

Last season's stats in all competitions:
Muani - 23 goals + 17 assists (40 goal contributions)
Vlahovic - 14 goals + 4 assists (28 goal contributions)

Considering Kane does the role of a no.9 + no.10 simultaneously, Muani would seem the more suitable replacement imo. The idea of Muani linking up with Son / Kulu / Maddison does excite me...I could see them scoring and creating a LOT of goals collectively. Also, Muani appears to be significantly quicker (acceleration + speed) than Vlahovic, which seems a better fit for how I anticipate we'll play under Ange.

It's worth noting that Ange's system has essentially replaced a CB with Maddison, compared to how we played under Conte & Jose, so perhaps there is less need for our no.9 to drop deep like Kane has been doing so effectively.

I get your view r.e dropping deep but RKM doesn't do that. I have been a massive fan of his for a while now, albeit I was surprised by his jump this season. A lot of his assists come from being near the box and playing a great pass. Where Kane dropping deep impacts Maddison etc, RKM wouldn't do that.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Is that 14 assists - 28 or
4 assists - 18?

Sorry, edited. Unfortunately it's the latter, so Vlahovic got only 18 goal contributions compared to Muani's 40.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

+ could play Muani and Richarlison (with Muani on the right). Vlahovic looks like an easier deal though as Juve seem to want to sell. Both would be very good options. Think Muani has 4 years left on his contract...

Muani signed for Frankfurt last summer so he has a longer contract, but if we are creative with the payments + bonuses we could definitely meet his valuation of €100 million.

Whether or not Levy would be willing to part with that much money over time is debatable, but it’s definitely doable.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

I get your view r.e dropping deep but RKM doesn't do that. I have been a massive fan of his for a while now, albeit I was surprised by his jump this season. A lot of his assists come from being near the box and playing a great pass. Where Kane dropping deep impacts Maddison etc, RKM wouldn't do that.

I get that, but like Kane, Muani would be creating for other players, whereas Vlahovic is unlikely to. Maddison potentially negates the need for our no.9 to create for others.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

+ could play Muani and Richarlison (with Muani on the right). Vlahovic looks like an easier deal though as Juve seem to want to sell. Both would be very good options. Think Muani has 4 years left on his contract...

Vlahovic is only 1 year into a 4-year contract, plus is over a year younger than Muani.

 

[dirtyh]

could probably also get bayern not to poach their players for 5 years too., got to be worth the conversation.

 

[jpascavitz]

Muani signed for Frankfurt last summer so he has a longer contract, but if we are creative with the payments + bonuses we could definitely meet his valuation of €100 million.

Whether or not Levy would be willing to part with that much money over time is debatable, but it’s definitely doable.

Believe I read he signed on a pre-contract from his Ligue 1 side (Nantes, I believe?) the season before. Wonder if that would help our case at all since he essentially would be pure profit for Frankfurt.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I'd be the most amazed/stunned I've ever been if we spend anywhere near what they would want for him. Especially with. A 60 million pound very marketable centre forward in desperate need of games at the club.

Exactly. Richarlison in a Ange team will be a totally different prospect than he was under Conte.

 

[mil1lion]

But there's no issue in getting another forward to compete with Richarlison. Even if we spend the full Kane money you have to think one of them will be a great starter. It would be silly to think of Richarlison as 1st choice and get someone as a backup. We need 2 quality centre forwards for genuine competition. It would be even better if the forward is versatile too as they could both perform wonders so we need the possibility to fit both in the starting 11. Although Richarlison could maybe play in front the left and Muani the right with Son up top too. Having that kind of movement between the front 3 would work wonders. Kulusevski can also play up top as he has with Sweden and Soloman can play either wing. With the quick pass and movement under Ange and flexibility up front we will be lethal.