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SirHarryHotspur

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If they resigned en - block it would possibly force the hand of Infantino to step down. That would be a start. I agree with your points though... A tough decision needs to be taken. This money grabbing organisation, needs to go.
On a yearly basis I think UEFA make more money than FIFA as FIFA's income is mainly once every 4 years, one of the reasons a two yearly WC was touted , so do we get rid of UEFA as well ?

 

rossdapep

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Sponsors and broadcasters would be falling over themselves if we were talking about all the top nations. If the big European sides jumped the South Americans would certainly follow because it's where the money is. People said the same about the BDO before the big players broke off to form the PDC because of how it was run, and the rest as they say is history. If the big players jump ship it'll be all she wrote for FIFA.
That's true regarding the sponsorships. I'm sure it presents an opening for company's like Pepsi, Heineken and other rival brands who have had no look in.

I just don't believe there will be enough of a desire to break the mould from the South American federations. Get them on side and it'll happen.
 

Trix

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That's true regarding the sponsorships. I'm sure it presents an opening for company's like Pepsi, Heineken and other rival brands who have had no look in.

I just don't believe there will be enough of a desire to break the mould from the South American federations. Get them on side and it'll happen.
If the Europeans jumped so would they. Otherwise the WC just becomes another Copa America with a few more also rans, and what's the point of that?
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Can't see any breakaway from FIFA by Euro nations, not all of them supported wearing the armband at this World Cup, Spain, Portugal, Serbia, Poland, Croatia were not involved as far as I can see and according to this article the FA will support Infantino if certain conditions are met.
 

nailsy

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Thats great but one of them needs to put up a credible alternative, because without one they are just abstained votes for the inevitable.

I could see Gareth Southgate doing something like that once he leaves the England job.
 

nailsy

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So Germany have already protested the decision to not let them not wear the armband. They won't be the last team and it will attract far more interest than if they'd just let the sides wear them.
 

rossdapep

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If the Europeans jumped so would they. Otherwise the WC just becomes another Copa America with a few more also rans, and what's the point of that?
Can't see any breakaway from FIFA by Euro nations, not all of them supported wearing the armband at this World Cup, Spain, Portugal, Serbia, Poland, Croatia were not involved as far as I can see and according to this article the FA will support Infantino if certain conditions are met.
This is what I mean though, if only England, Germany, Wales, Netherlands peel away and France, Portugal, Spain, Italy state that they will stay where they are then the South Americans won't budge.

It would need to be more like UEFA and ALL the major federations breaking away, sure then they'd do it. But the CONMEBOL and it's federations are far too connected to FIFA for them to break away due to a few European nations.

It needs to be all the major ones.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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So Germany have already protested the decision to not let them not wear the armband. They won't be the last team and it will attract far more interest than if they'd just let the sides wear them.
Doubt very much that CAS will want to get involved in religion, like it or not the wearing of these armbands is a criticism of Sharia Islamic Law, best to stay out of religion like the vast majority of countries at this world cup.
 

Marty

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Doubt very much that CAS will want to get involved in religion, like it or not the wearing of these armbands is a criticism of Sharia Islamic Law, best to stay out of religion like the vast majority of countries at this world cup.
This has nothing to do with religion, at least not in law.

Germany is challenging FIFAs stance on political and human rights messaging.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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This has nothing to do with religion, at least not in law.

Germany is challenging FIFAs stance on political and human rights messaging.
FIFA rules ban any political messaging., loads of countries have human rights problems, try typing Israel human rights abuses into a search engine , allow political protests against one country and it will be never ending..
Old article below but think rules still the same..

“the basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images… The team of a player whose basic equipment has political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images will be sanctioned by the competition organiser or by FIFA.
 
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BuryMeInEngland

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When Fox tv here are showing their pre and post game shows, the area around the very fancy studio sets are incredibly empty. Literally only 3 or 4 people wandering around. I get the time difference but there's usually a bunch of supporters around, but nothing.
 

PCozzie

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I could see Gareth Southgate doing something like that once he leaves the England job.
I think that's possible. He might still fancy something managerial but eventually he'll be in either the FA or some form of governance, and I think he'll do well in that kind of role.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Just out... live presser from Denmark.

The Danish Football Association rages against FIFA after they have not been allowed to wear the captain's armband without being punished.

The Dansk Boldspil-Union (DBU) is decidedly enraged by FIFA's actions in the case surrounding the One Love captain's armband.

- The situation we are in is quite simply extraordinary. I have never experienced anything like it. I'm not just disappointed, I'm angry. I have been involved since 1998. It is completely unacceptable what we have to experience at various meetings, press conferences. Racism, hypocrisy and so on, says DBU chairman Jesper Møller at a press conference.

I can say that Denmark is not among the 207 countries that have signed a declaration of support

- But to put our players in a situation so shortly before an opening game. It is completely unacceptable and deeply reprehensible

- After the meeting today with the other countries in the same situation, we have to react to it. We will come to that together with the other countries, because we have this in common. We are all puzzled and disagree that we cannot be allowed to use the captain's armband. We probably won't change the Laws of the Game much, but we need to clarify its interpretation. We will get that at the legal level. It is already being worked on.

Jesper Møller goes on to say that Denmark is leaving Germany to investigate the legal matters, and the chairman says that it is not about the International Court of Sports (CAS).

Dansk Boldspil-Union will not sign a declaration of support for the re-election of Gianni Infantino as president of FIFA. He says that it is not a new decision.

- We have a political situation where there are presidential elections at the next congress. There are 211 countries in FIFA and I understand that the president has statements of support from 207 countries. I can say that Denmark is not among the 207 countries that have signed a declaration of support. Nor will we be.

The DBU chairman himself met with the FIFA president on Tuesday in connection with Denmark's World Cup match against Tunisia. In their exchange of views, it emerged that the two football managers do not share a point of view on a number of key issues.

The press conference came after DBU have been criticized for ditching the One Love captain's armband as the International Football Confederation threatened consequences.

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A yellow card was the least punishment the captains of seven World Cup nations could face if they had worn a captain's armband from the One Love campaign.

This is what the Dansk Boldspil-Union's (DBU) director, Jakob Jensen, says at an extraordinary press conference on Wednesday

Denmark, like the six other nations, failed to wear the captain's armband with the anti-discrimination message at the first match during the World Cup in Qatar, after the International Football Association (FIFA) threatened with sporting sanctions.

- 21 November Fifa asked for an urgent meeting to discuss the matter. Fifa came to England's hotel and here Fifa made it clear that there would be sporting sanctions if anyone wore the armband. There would be at least a yellow card, he says.

There has been talk about whether the referees could even issue warnings with reference to the football law, but the DBU director calls that doubt to the ground.

- There is authority in Laws of The Game article 4 to give a yellow card. Anyone carrying equipment that is not permitted will be penalized. It could have been a yellow card, a captain who was not allowed on the pitch, or a suspension, says Jakob Jensen from DBU.
Strong ? ? ?? are very good balanced fair nice people
 
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