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Got to wonder if this was the kind of player Poch was turning down if we have indeed been scouting him for a couple of seasons. Not having a dig btw. Just curious.
So that is in the joint 3rd position for assists, only behind De Bruyne and TAAThis Traore band-wagon is weird. He's only just starting to fulfill some of his promise but he is nowhere near as good as some of you are making out. In the worst Prem competition in donkey's years he's got as many assists as Son - who doesn't even pass. Definitely going through a decent purple patch mind. About time he had his first one, at 24.
Yeh we agree. The players I was giving as examples were not chosen by me, they were simply every player who finished among to top scorers who has played outside of that division. But we are in full on agreement. There are a lot of very good players that come from that league. It is just that stats don´t mean much in holland. Performances and analysing them do.Mate I understand not wanting to overhype potential signings and how it can be disappointing in retrospect. I get it.
But the argument isn't really based on much besides pointing out other signings from the Eredivisie that didn’t work out. I can just as easily point out the opposite by noting Suarez, Eriksen, RVP, Van Nistelrooy, VDV, Bergkamp, and Robben all were Eredivisie players who made it in the Prem.
Some signings work out, some don‘t. But very rarely is because there’s some kind of precedent that pointed to their failure in advance. Torres was the best striker in the league at Liverpool and flopped at Chelsea, so should we turn down Mane, Firmino, or Saleh?
Been reading a little bit on a PSV forum and they don't seem too devastated. Sounds like they are in a bit of a mess as a team, without leadership etc so they don't really blame him for wanting to leave. Based on what we paid for Janssen they seem to think that 40-50m is fair for Bergwijn, whilst at the same time acknowledging that they will never get that much for him.
Bergwijn is the sort of signing that the likes of Leicester, Wolves or Bournemouth make at the price which is currently offered to us, goes on to perform well for them, leaving us watching and wondering "Why didn't we go for him at that price?"
I am for one excited to see him on board.
So that is in the joint 3rd position for assists, only behind De Bruyne and TAA
Well, they do.Don't think you should base anything on what we paid for Janssen.
Well, they do.
VJ had one good season, Bergwijn has over 100 games for PSV.
I'm a big Traore fan and have been banging his drum for a while, but i think it's unfair to make a direct comparison between these two. Traore is much quicker, more direct and probably scares teams more but Bergwijn is the more well-rounded player. Decent pace, decent dribbling ability, better vision etc. That's not to say he's 'necessarily better' but those expecting a Traore-type player will be surprised.
The comparison to Zaha above isn't bad. This lad is a smoother Zaha in my view.
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PSV rejected a bid of around 35m from Sevilla last summer as insufficient. They were obviously banking on getting a bigger fee this year after the Euro's.I am surprised the fees aren’t being quoted closer to what Napoli paid for Lozano which was over 40million.
Yeah, so much of our play breaks down because of Lucas. He'll have the odd moment of magic and isn't a bad finisher, but runs down so many blind alleys and his passing is average. Son, who is a far better player, and Alli are also guilty of giving the ball away cheaply and with all of them on the pitch our ball retention is terrible at times. Bergwijn would surely be an improvement in this area.His holdup skills are going to be such a benefit over Lucas. Will save us a lot in possession and helping out the defense being able to give Bergwijn the ball and trusting that he can hold onto it and let us move up the pitch as a team rather than open us up to counter attacks.
Lozano was always considered the bigger talent so makes sense. Having said that who knows who will adapt better to a bigger league.I am surprised the fees aren’t being quoted closer to what Napoli paid for Lozano which was over 40million.