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Montalbano

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It's not wise to sell out at the lowest point.
I think it's better to judge him in a few months time.
Agreed. Dude put in a very good performance against Liverpool last weekend and now everyone is back to turning on him.

Btw - 3 goal involvements in 395 minutes this season is not “numbers” issues. I’m not judging any of our players on last year’s disaster season.
 

HodisGawd

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Oct 3, 2005
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I find it very funny that so many people are willing to cast him aside due to his performance when 10 days ago he was the man that was back!

To those stating he should be benched for Veliz. You want to bench one of the hardest working players in the team for a youth option who the manager indicated isn't ready? You're calling him out on his goal/assists return when he has a better return than Kulusevski despite almost half the game time? You're also criticising a play who for 90% of his Spurs career has been played out of position. He's not Harry Kane, he's not Son, he's not a creator like Maddison. He's a disruptor, he causes havoc, despite what some of you think his head doesn't drop after a miss - yes he looks disappointed but he continues to run and harass the opposition and create opportunities despite the team continually failing to create opportunities for him. Today he missed some chances but he only came off because of the sending off. He's the Lamela of this team and sacrifices his own performances for the team and regardless of how much he cost I'd keep him as a squad option.
I think the point is we need more than just a "disruptor".
 

Cochise

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Just watching the highlights. Second chance was probably going over the keepers leg, but the defender got half a block on it to keep it from rising.
 

Hotspur88

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I find it very funny that so many people are willing to cast him aside due to his performance when 10 days ago he was the man that was back!

To those stating he should be benched for Veliz. You want to bench one of the hardest working players in the team for a youth option who the manager indicated isn't ready? You're calling him out on his goal/assists return when he has a better return than Kulusevski despite almost half the game time? You're also criticising a play who for 90% of his Spurs career has been played out of position. He's not Harry Kane, he's not Son, he's not a creator like Maddison. He's a disruptor, he causes havoc, despite what some of you think his head doesn't drop after a miss - yes he looks disappointed but he continues to run and harass the opposition and create opportunities despite the team continually failing to create opportunities for him. Today he missed some chances but he only came off because of the sending off. He's the Lamela of this team and sacrifices his own performances for the team and regardless of how much he cost I'd keep him as a squad option.
Firstly, I'm not sure who is asking for Véliz to replace Richarlison, but I certainly haven't seen many suggest this. Personally, Johnson should replace him everyday of the week in that LWF position. Ange said Véliz needed time initially, he's had that time and has impressed in training hence why he's started to make the match day squad and has come on in the last two matches.

I'm sorry but Kulusevski is 10 times the player Richarlison is, if you want to talk about how he's a disruptor etc and that's what we should be judging him on, Kulusevski is an absolute workhorse, he puts in so much effort every game and doesn't stop running, creating so much space and opportunities for others on the pitch.

My personal opinion is Richarlison just isn't good enough or suited to Ange's system. He's not brilliant on the ball, he's not quick and he's not clinical. I'm not saying every Ange player has to have that combination, but every other attacking player at least ticks one or two of those boxes. Richarlison also struggles to hold the ball up, bring others into play and his touch is pretty appalling. There was interest from Saudi Arabia at the end of the Summer Window and my opinion is we should cash in and reinvest in someone like Neto who is far better suited to Ange's system.

My final point is I would argue Kulusevski was the 'Lamela' of the team if you want to talk about sacrifice. You're clearly a fan of Richarlison and that's fine, we will have to disagree on that one. I was very excited when we signed him and thought he would "explode" for us, unfortunately it seems as though he just isn't good enough.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I find it very funny that so many people are willing to cast him aside due to his performance when 10 days ago he was the man that was back!

To those stating he should be benched for Veliz. You want to bench one of the hardest working players in the team for a youth option who the manager indicated isn't ready? You're calling him out on his goal/assists return when he has a better return than Kulusevski despite almost half the game time? You're also criticising a play who for 90% of his Spurs career has been played out of position. He's not Harry Kane, he's not Son, he's not a creator like Maddison. He's a disruptor, he causes havoc, despite what some of you think his head doesn't drop after a miss - yes he looks disappointed but he continues to run and harass the opposition and create opportunities despite the team continually failing to create opportunities for him. Today he missed some chances but he only came off because of the sending off. He's the Lamela of this team and sacrifices his own performances for the team and regardless of how much he cost I'd keep him as a squad option.
I think many have doubted him ever since we signed him tbh and just simply got behind him when he scored against Sheff Utd and put in a half decent shift against Liverpool, (because of his mental health stuff the fans want to get behind him and because he’s a £60mil player who didn’t get much of a chance under Conte).

But he simply has to do more, his shooting was absolutely woeful today. If we want to compete for titles and cups then Richy has to step it up a few levels or we need to upgrade on him.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Firstly, I'm not sure who is asking for Véliz to replace Richarlison, but I certainly haven't seen many suggest this. Personally, Johnson should replace him everyday of the week in that LWF position. Ange said Véliz needed time initially, he's had that time and has impressed in training hence why he's started to make the match day squad and has come on in the last two matches.

I'm sorry but Kulusevski is 10 times the player Richarlison is, if you want to talk about how he's a disruptor etc and that's what we should be judging him on, Kulusevski is an absolute workhorse, he puts in so much effort every game and doesn't stop running, creating so much space and opportunities for others on the pitch.

My personal opinion is Richarlison just isn't good enough or suited to Ange's system. He's not brilliant on the ball, he's not quick and he's not clinical. I'm not saying every Ange player has to have that combination, but every other attacking player at least ticks one or two of those boxes. Richarlison also struggles to hold the ball up, bring others into play and his touch is pretty appalling. There was interest from Saudi Arabia at the end of the Summer Window and my opinion is we should cash in and reinvest in someone like Neto who is far better suited to Ange's system.

My final point is I would argue Kulusevski was the 'Lamela' of the team if you want to talk about sacrifice. You're clearly a fan of Richarlison and that's fine, we will have to disagree on that one. I was very excited when we signed him and thought he would "explode" for us, unfortunately it seems as though he just isn't good enough.
Spot on.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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It's not wise to sell out at the lowest point.
I think it's better to judge him in a few months time.
Yep for sure too early in the season to make a final judgment but he needs to do more as in bigger games we can’t have him not creating much and missing so many shots etc.
 

beats1

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I personally haven't seen anything from Johnson to say he would be a good LW, seems a lot more comfortable on the RW than the LW

As for Richarlison, he technically doesn't have the skill and close control to play against a low block on the LW, but neither does son imo

Richarlison did well against Liverpool, because he had space to go 1 vs 1 against their RB. Today he was constantly running to traffic
I thought Kulu was superb today, especially when Son went off. His strength, intelligence and tenacity was just what we needed, and it was telling that Richarlison wasn’t trusted to do this job.
I agree but Kulusevski as Son's performances have been inconsistent

As I said the front 3 are learning how to play this system as of yet
 

Dazzazzad

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Jan 17, 2006
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You're calling him out on his goal/assists return when he has a better return than Kulusevski despite almost half the game time?

Kulu might have more assists if Richy could finish. His first big miss was a Kulu cross. He set up another of the big misses in the opening spell, can't recall which one though.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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I am pretty sure if Brennan Johnson and Manor Solomon had been fit yesterday Richarlison would have been third in line and to be honest yesterday's performance didn't change that. As I posted in the match thread he is playing himself into the reserves.
 

NEVILLEB

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Nov 6, 2006
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Hojbjerg, just like Richy is/was not deserving of some of the constant toxic comments they get from our own fans.

Find it really weird you find the need to come here and say that. Can you not just accept things are good right now and be positive? Or is your comfort zone toxic negativity?
Well he’s being criticised again after yesterdays performance. Are they just being negative? If things are good right now should no one be criticising Richarlison?
 

yido_number1

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Jun 8, 2004
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I find it very funny that so many people are willing to cast him aside due to his performance when 10 days ago he was the man that was back!

To those stating he should be benched for Veliz. You want to bench one of the hardest working players in the team for a youth option who the manager indicated isn't ready? You're calling him out on his goal/assists return when he has a better return than Kulusevski despite almost half the game time? You're also criticising a play who for 90% of his Spurs career has been played out of position. He's not Harry Kane, he's not Son, he's not a creator like Maddison. He's a disruptor, he causes havoc, despite what some of you think his head doesn't drop after a miss - yes he looks disappointed but he continues to run and harass the opposition and create opportunities despite the team continually failing to create opportunities for him. Today he missed some chances but he only came off because of the sending off. He's the Lamela of this team and sacrifices his own performances for the team and regardless of how much he cost I'd keep him as a squad option.
He's a wf not a CF. He only plays their for Brasil and the rest of his time is out wide. Ange tried him up top and it's very obvious he isn't a striker in this system.

I agree with the work rate being the least he can do but we can't afford for him to be missing that many chances.
 
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