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InOffMeLeftShin

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He worked really hard, chases, harries and some of his closing down of the keeper lead to poor kicks and possible chances ( one of which Maddison really should have scored).

His touch isn’t always the best and he struggled to hold up the ball or really connect the other forwards. He did have one good flicked header that put Deki away but most else didn’t work for him.

My biggest problem is that he just doesn’t look like he is natural. He doesn’t get into natural goal scoring positions, there were a couple of occasions when we had nice interplay and he seemed to move into a less threatening position. He sort of backs away from the danger areas rather than attacking them. There are strikers that get accused of being tap in merchants but there is a real art to being in the right place, making the right moves, timing the runs. He wants more passes but he’s not really getting to the spots.

Don’t know if it’s a confidence thing. Don’t know if it’s just an early season and adjusting the new system thing (we’ve had better strikers than Richarlison that couldn’t score in August). Just doesn’t seem to be right despite his efforts and it’d be nice to at least have another option to change things up.
 

Gassin's finest

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The more I watch our goals and build up, the more I think he's got a bit of a thankless task as the CF in this system. It's probably already been pointed out, so sorry if I'm slow on the uptake... but look at our last 3 goals.

They're all from deeper players running diagonally into and across the box, with the ball being fed in to meet them. And the shot is merely a deft redirection across the goal to the far corner.

Whether this is specifically worked on in training, or it's just a symptom of how we practice build up and movement, the 9 is being asked to draw defenders or hold up, rather than get on the end of things.

So it could be Richy isn't going to get many goals this way anyway.

Or he's just shite and the other goals happen because he's not up to it. I dunno. I write databases, I'm not a football tactician.
 

14/04/91

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Jan 13, 2006
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I’ve no problem with him missing a few chances or treading on the ball but the sulking and head visibly dropping is a problem.
This just screams selfishness at a time when the rest of the squad seem totally together.
This guy needs to realise it’s not all about him; if he doesn’t, he’ll lose because we all know how Ange reacts if a player doesn’t buy in.
 

Timberwolf

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I thihk it's unfortunate that Perisic and Rich are rarely on the pitch at the same time. One of Richarlison's strengths is attacking crosses and he's not getting any service from Son or Kulu at the moment, then whenever we bring on a good crosser in Perisic, Rich is off the pitch.

I think we probably need to just ride the wave for the next few matches and hope he can get a goal off his arse to boost his confidence. I'd definitely start him against Fulham for that reason - the longer he goes without a goal the worse it will get.

If Rich can't do anything in the next 3 then fingers crossed we've bought a striker by then. Either that or it has to be Son up top I think.
 

Dan Stallworthy

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He was absolutely dog shit yesterday. We need another striker desperately we can't go the whole season with Richarlison up front.
I don't even think he worked that hard yesterday and every time he touched the ball it was a disaster
 

Haddock

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It’s fine margins and things turn quickly in football. Two weeks ago posters were saying Vicario wasn’t up for it, now he’s the gem of the transfer window.

I agree regarding Richy’s sulking though. I absolutely hate that. You’re a professional being paid a fortune. C’mon. But I still maintain he needs more time to adjust to the role and the system before we pass judgement.
 

sundanceyid10

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He worked really hard, chases, harries and some of his closing down of the keeper lead to poor kicks and possible chances ( one of which Maddison really should have scored).

His touch isn’t always the best and he struggled to hold up the ball or really connect the other forwards. He did have one good flicked header that put Deki away but most else didn’t work for him.

My biggest problem is that he just doesn’t look like he is natural. He doesn’t get into natural goal scoring positions, there were a couple of occasions when we had nice interplay and he seemed to move into a less threatening position. He sort of backs away from the danger areas rather than attacking them. There are strikers that get accused of being tap in merchants but there is a real art to being in the right place, making the right moves, timing the runs. He wants more passes but he’s not really getting to the spots.

Don’t know if it’s a confidence thing. Don’t know if it’s just an early season and adjusting the new system thing (we’ve had better strikers than Richarlison that couldn’t score in August). Just doesn’t seem to be right despite his efforts and it’d be nice to at least have another option to change things up.
I think you hit the nail in the head, he is not a natural goalscorer.

Things are going well at the moment, but it’s a long season and I can see us having periods where goals are hard to come by it we don’t add a decent striker. I think it’s going to bite is in the arse if we don’t sort it out. We have left it very very late in the window and finding someone decent is going to be no easy task.
 

theShiznit

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Jul 26, 2004
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To me Richarlison must be very conflicted ATM.
I see the sulking and unhappy looks as internal struggle.
You don't get to where he has without an ego.
He is a striker that is/was the first choice for an elite footballing nation, he now knows he is our sole (senior) striker and has to replace the club's former talisman and one of the best in the world, who he was just playing second fiddle to. This has focused the spotlight (and pressure) even further on Richie and it looks as if this has all taken a toll on his confidence.

He's working hard in the system while not really contributing to the play, he does make a lot of runs But i am not sure he's ever going to be a more than 10-15 goals a season player that works hard and winds up opposition.

While he was never a player i particularly liked from afar or wanted at Spurs, he's here now and our first choice until Ange/Levy decides otherwise, and the team is playing well so he can sort of (hopefully) go under the radar. I just think he needs to relax a bit and simplify what he's doing and let it happen on the pitch rather than trying to force it.

Hopefully if he carries on working hard the goals will come...Hopefully.
 

BorjeSpurs

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I thihk it's unfortunate that Perisic and Rich are rarely on the pitch at the same time. One of Richarlison's strengths is attacking crosses and he's not getting any service from Son or Kulu at the moment, then whenever we bring on a good crosser in Perisic, Rich is off the pitch.
Good shout, I think they will both start on Tuesday.
 

JimmyG2

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Dec 7, 2006
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Was excited when he signed.
Liked his shithousery, work rate and attitude at Everton
but his quality as an actual player got lost somewhere along the line.
Waiting behind HK for game-time has done for his confidence.
Whether he can recover is moot.
Seems to lack that decisive striker instinct.
Should have scored on Saturday
but his control and ability to set others up
has gone along with his confidence.
Thought his hat-trick in pre-season might focus and settle him
but not so far.
 

Erm33

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Spoke to an Everton fan I met about him yesterday. Said he's a confidence player and he had no doubt that give him a run of 10 games and he'd turn it around with us. Did say he would go from the worst player on the pitch to their best when he gets in his groove.

Hopefully he gets a chance to play with Perisic and Solomon against Fulham on Tuesday as I feel they're both better fits for what would suit him best now... Crosses into the box for him to get on the end of. The less he has to do for his first goal the better.
 

Dakes

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He had a decent first half but the second half revealed a big problem with him. He’s very moody and it impacts his game massively. He has the talent, but we can’t rely on a player who is so easily affected by his moods. Yes, a goal could lift his confidence and he’ll come good. But a few things not going his way could so easily swing him the opposite way again.

What we need in a striker is a measure of consistency. We won’t be getting another Kane, but we need someone that’s more level headed and predictable, if I can put it that way.
 

Impspur1

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He had a decent first half but the second half revealed a big problem with him. He’s very moody and it impacts his game massively. He has the talent, but we can’t rely on a player who is so easily affected by his moods. Yes, a goal could lift his confidence and he’ll come good. But a few things not going his way could so easily swing him the opposite way again.

What we need in a striker is a measure of consistency. We won’t be getting another Kane, but we need someone that’s more level headed and predictable, if I can put it that way.
I don’t think him being moody is a new discovery. The guy’s confidence is Rock bottom
 

bubble07

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Dec 27, 2004
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He worked really hard, chases, harries and some of his closing down of the keeper lead to poor kicks and possible chances ( one of which Maddison really should have scored).

His touch isn’t always the best and he struggled to hold up the ball or really connect the other forwards. He did have one good flicked header that put Deki away but most else didn’t work for him.

My biggest problem is that he just doesn’t look like he is natural. He doesn’t get into natural goal scoring positions, there were a couple of occasions when we had nice interplay and he seemed to move into a less threatening position. He sort of backs away from the danger areas rather than attacking them. There are strikers that get accused of being tap in merchants but there is a real art to being in the right place, making the right moves, timing the runs. He wants more passes but he’s not really getting to the spots.

Don’t know if it’s a confidence thing. Don’t know if it’s just an early season and adjusting the new system thing (we’ve had better strikers than Richarlison that couldn’t score in August). Just doesn’t seem to be right despite his efforts and it’d be nice to at least have another option to change things up.

Yea agree. Its like what Janssen did. Never got in goalscoring positions almost like he didn't want the opportunity to miss which is a big concern
 

muppetman

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I think we need to show patience with him.

However, I’d like to know who our backup is. Not convinced by Son, perhaps Scarlett?

If neither, then we need to get someone else in for injuries, rest, something a bit different and worst case if Richis head goes.
 

Clark28

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What does an ideal ST look like in Ange's system?

A lot of our attacking threat seems to be coming from everywhere but that position, don't know if that is because of Richy or just the new system being less reliant on one man like we've become accustomed to.
 

Impspur1

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May 8, 2014
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What does an ideal ST look like in Ange's system?

A lot of our attacking threat seems to be coming from everywhere but that position, don't know if that is because of Richy or just the new system being less reliant on one man like we've become accustomed to.
Get the sense it could be either a hold up CF or a poacher.
 

wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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Honestly I'd just swap Richarlison and Son around in this system.

No good focusing on what he does for Brazil when he isn't being asked to do what he does for Brazil. Son is a player who is perfect for somebody who can go throughout a game with the least amount of touches.
 

whenstevewentup

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Ange knows he’s not good enough hence why he hooks him off every game . We have to sign another striker to give us any chance of having a decent season . He doesn’t excel at anything and even the “he works so hard for the team “ isn’t cutting the mustard for me now cos he rarely wins us the ball back compared to other players who play in this system .
 
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