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Hoopspur

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Skilo

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I could see Conte questioning his desire if Richie told us to wait until hes back from his hollibobs. Probably told FP to fuck him off!
 

Scouseyid

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A bit shit like your response to @arunspurs a couple of pages back?

So you can be a bit rude and dismissive but with "scouse" in your username, can't take a rather obvious joke?
It wasn't a shit response at all, it was merely the expression of an opinion.

Nor was it rude or dismissive and it certainly doesn't justify pathetic stereotypes!

But if that's your thing...
 

Scouseyid

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Are you actually a Scouser? What made you support Spurs?
Hard choice to make in a city dominated by 2 massive clubs, but I admire it.
Yes I am. Have been since the late 80s/early 90s. My Dad is a Spurs fan & met my Mum via a mate whilst in the Navy. Lineker & Gazza got me hooked watching England in Italia 90, the rest is history.
 

McFlash

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It wasn't a shit response at all, it was merely the expression of an opinion.

Nor was it rude or dismissive and it certainly doesn't justify pathetic stereotypes!

But if that's your thing...
Maybe I read it wrong but to me "god bless your passionate reposte" came across as patronising and a tad unnecessary.

And yes, pathetic stereotypes is totally my thing. ?
 

Scouseyid

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I’m interested in your response to my post responding to you.
What do you consider good winger goal scoring numbers? Because 13 is
The last two seasons were 7 & 10, which is crap for a player widely considered to be Evertons most talented player, playing both CF & LW.

I genuinely don't rate him (never have) & believe his overall output, given his ability, is severely lacking. Coupled with his knack of falling over easily, being a bit of a whiny bitch and having a generally cocky approach to his sport, there's nothing that will convince me he's a good potential signing.

Lets do a GA comparison between him & Son for the last 4 seasons:

15/30
10/27
16/21
14/18

I'm sorry, but that clearly looks average in comparison!
 
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McFlash

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It wasn't a shit response at all, it was merely the expression of an opinion.

Nor was it rude or dismissive and it certainly doesn't justify pathetic stereotypes!

But if that's your thing...
And it wasn't merely an expression of an opinion, or if it was, it was terribly put forward.
Arunspurs put forward a really decent reason why Richarlison is a decent player but you just completely ignored that and came back basically with "yeah but he's shit".

Nobody has an issue with well thought out and explained opinions but when you just say "he's over-rated" and ignore any evidence to counter that claim, your opinion becomes a little less valued.
 

Scouseyid

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And it wasn't merely an expression of an opinion, or if it was, it was terribly put forward.
Arunspurs put forward a really decent reason why Richarlison is a decent player but you just completely ignored that and came back basically with "yeah but he's shit".

Nobody has an issue with well thought out and explained opinions but when you just say "he's over-rated" and ignore any evidence to counter that claim, your opinion becomes a little less valued.
It wasn't simply "he's over-rated". Just because I didn't engage in a full on statto analysis at the time doesn't mean my opinion has less validity.
 
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djhotspur

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The last two seasons were 7 & 10, which is crap for a player widely considered to be Evertons most talented player, playing both CF & LW.

I genuinely don't rate him (never have) & believe his overall output, given his ability, is severely lacking. Coupled with his knack of falling over easily, being a bit of a whiny bitch and having a generally cocky approach to his sport, there's nothing that will convince me he's a good potential signing.

Lets do a GA comparison between him & Son for the last 4 seasons:

15/30
10/27
16/21
14/18

I'm sorry, but that clearly looks average in comparison!
Yeah but son is a wc class forward who has come into his own the last two seasons. Son at 25 wasn’t putting up big numbers. Son also in that Everton team tye last two seasons would have massively struggled.

it’s fair enough not to rate him, but barely any player outside of the top 6 would touch his numbers from the wing.

he’s coming is as s rotation option, and a rotation option player who can score 13 goals 2x seasons running is pretty fucking epic. It’s not like we are talking about him coming into replace son. I bet richarlison in Liverpool’s team would get 15-20 goals a season easily
 

McFlash

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It wasn't simply "he's over-rated". Just because I didn't engage in a full on statto analysis at the time doesn't mean my opinion has less validity.
And good for you, for sticking with your valid opinion, even in the face of stats that may actually show it's unfounded.
There's nothing wrong with being open to opposing views, or even changing your opinion based on challenging evidence.

I've never said that your opinion is not valid, just that it may not have any actual foundation when confronted with evidence and stats.

Now I'm not particularly a fan of stats, preferring the eye test and when we were first linked with this lad, I was against the idea based on what I'd seen of him (which in reality, wasn't really that much).
But, as the thread has progressed and people have put forward good arguments in his favour, my opinion has changed.

I'm not trying to get into an argument.
 

daryl hannah

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Is Miguel Delaney reliable? Antony’s name being bandied about by various. If Miguel is valid maybe we could get a thread?
 
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