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philll

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So Richy's starting in a friendly against Guinea. Not particularly noteworthy but I'm fully in love with the black kit the Brasilians are wearing.
 

lobob8

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Not sure if anyone else read this but thought it was lovely. I really rate Richy and can't wait to see him, Kulu, and Sonny all firing next season.
 

cockerel downunder

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I think richy needs to play up front snd get a run of games and he would be great. That only happens if Kane leaves though, so who knows what the future holds. I could see us selling him if Kane stays, or making him our main man if he goes. Bug staying as backup striker / winger I just don’t think that’s good for him or spurs in a no Europe season.
 

ralphs bald spot

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I think richy needs to play up front snd get a run of games and he would be great. That only happens if Kane leaves though, so who knows what the future holds. I could see us selling him if Kane stays, or making him our main man if he goes. Bug staying as backup striker / winger I just don’t think that’s good for him or spurs in a no Europe season.
How could you honestly suggest a player who has just had an awful season even if you give him some excuses injury etc would be in anyway a replacement for Kane - he has been so disappointing at Tottenham I thought he would kick on as a player but it all seemed to much for him and by the end of the season he didn't look like scoring - he is kind of a Chris Armstrong though without the goals
 

ralphs bald spot

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Not sure if anyone else read this but thought it was lovely. I really rate Richy and can't wait to see him, Kulu, and Sonny all firing next season.
Richarlson was awful last season hopefully Kane will still be here so where do you see him playing - he doesn't seem to have the intelligence to play as wide forward and through the middle it was all so hit and miss
 

Johnny J

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Richarlison is clearly a good player. But I'm not entirely sure what our plan was for him. He's most effective as the central striker IMO, but Kane plays there.

I don't think he's what we need as a wide forward. He's not particularly fast or tricky and isn't going to beat a couple of players and deliver a fantastic ball inside.

We absolutely needed backup for Kane but you don't pay £60m for that. The signing, to me, always felt like an opportunity to take advantage of Everton's financial position, rather than because he was the best player we identified for whatever position we were recruiting for.

In retrospect it's hard to think that £60m wouldn't have been better spent on a centre back, an attacking midfielder or a proper wide forward.

I hope Postecoglou finds a place for him in the team where he can shine.
 

Timberwolf

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Richarlison is clearly a good player. But I'm not entirely sure what our plan was for him. He's most effective as the central striker IMO, but Kane plays there.

I don't think he's what we need as a wide forward. He's not particularly fast or tricky and isn't going to beat a couple of players and deliver a fantastic ball inside.

We absolutely needed backup for Kane but you don't pay £60m for that. The signing, to me, always felt like an opportunity to take advantage of Everton's financial position, rather than because he was the best player we identified for whatever position we were recruiting for.

In retrospect it's hard to think that £60m wouldn't have been better spent on a centre back, an attacking midfielder or a proper wide forward.

I hope Postecoglou finds a place for him in the team where he can shine.
Yeah wasn't a huge fan of his signing initally. He's clearly got a lot of talent but I felt we really needed a bit more creativity and craft whereas Richarlison is a bit of a blunt object: he's a menace off the ball and capable of the spectacular on it but his link-up play is very loose.

That said, I do wonder if Ange will end up playing him off Kane as our no.9 as I think he could be ideal at leading the line in a high pressing system as his work rate is great, and Kane doesn't seem like a natural fit for that role anymore.
 

Westmorlandspur

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He is a lot better than he has looked this season but if Madrid were to get interested, you wouldn’t see him for dust. They do not have a proper centre forward at the moment so who knows .
pit would give them the Brazil front 3. Would need to be 80 for Daniel to consider it. Ancelotti knows him from Everton
 

Timberwolf

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He is a lot better than he has looked this season but if Madrid were to get interested, you wouldn’t see him for dust. They do not have a proper centre forward at the moment so who knows .
pit would give them the Brazil front 3. Would need to be 80 for Daniel to consider it. Ancelotti knows him from Everton
Tbh I'd be happy just to get our money back on him if Madrid came calling.

I agree that he's got so much more to offer if we use him in the right way, but I think we could get more out of the 60m than we would by keeping Rich.
 

Goobers

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I find it very difficult to judge him on this season alone. I thought he was a unpolished gem for Watford and super for Everton. This season of all seasons has been so strange with lack of continuity, the world cup and our shamble of a senior caching staff.
I think he is well worth another season. However if we need the money because we are going to make feck all from the other players we want to get off the books then that is different but as one of four first choice forward players, in principle at least, I am very happy with the caveat that he is more like the Everton Richy than the 2022-2023 one.
 

cockerel downunder

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How could you honestly suggest a player who has just had an awful season even if you give him some excuses injury etc would be in anyway a replacement for Kane - he has been so disappointing at Tottenham I thought he would kick on as a player but it all seemed to much for him and by the end of the season he didn't look like scoring - he is kind of a Chris Armstrong though without the goals
I think he only started 1 game for us as striker last season, but looked good there for Brazil and I think with a run of games as the main man would be good for spurs there as well. Obviously he’s no Kane but not sure who else we could get that’s better than the Brazil #9? Hopefully Kane will stay though so it will be a moot point!!
 

Johnny J

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Obviously he’s no Kane but not sure who else we could get that’s better than the Brazil #9?
The fact he's Brazil's #9 gets brought up a lot but I don't think it follows that because he plays there for Brazil he's the best option for us. For example, Morata often plays as Spain's main striker but he wouldn't necessarily be the best option either.

Richarlison is a good player, proven in the PL, and has lots of positive qualities. I don't see where he fits into our team unless Kane isn't playing.
 

St José Dominguez

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Tbh I'd be happy just to get our money back on him if Madrid came calling.

I agree that he's got so much more to offer if we use him in the right way, but I think we could get more out of the 60m than we would by keeping Rich.

But then we’d need to buy another backup striker, and those cost a lot. We’d then be moaning about what if Kane got injured etc.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Richarlison started a single PL game as a 9 last season. It’s not just that he’s got more to offer, he’s barely played as a 9 here to even know how good he could be. With Udogie at LB and say a Maddison at CAM in a Ange team I think he could actually be a seriously good option to rotate with Son. His pressing efforts are potentially elite level with the right coaching.
 

Timberwolf

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But then we’d need to buy another backup striker, and those cost a lot. We’d then be moaning about what if Kane got injured etc.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Richarlison started a single PL game as a 9 last season. It’s not just that he’s got more to offer, he’s barely played as a 9 here to even know how good he could be. With Udogie at LB and say a Maddison at CAM in a Ange team I think he could actually be a seriously good option to rotate with Son. His pressing efforts are potentially elite level with the right coaching.
Yeah you do have a fair point and I definitely think there's a chance he could do well next season under Ange - seems far more suited to playing as a 9 in his system than Conte's.

Just wonder if we could maybe use Son as the 9, sell Rich and use the spend the money elsewhere to rebuild the squad? Don't think Son's especially suited to playing as a wide player in Ange's system and with his pace just starting to fade I think his future is through the middle (a bit like Ronaldo at Madrid). He's a much, much better finisher than Rich and has to be a more mobile, effective presser than Kane even if it's not his strong suit.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Richarlison is clearly a good player. But I'm not entirely sure what our plan was for him. He's most effective as the central striker IMO, but Kane plays there.

I don't think he's what we need as a wide forward. He's not particularly fast or tricky and isn't going to beat a couple of players and deliver a fantastic ball inside.

We absolutely needed backup for Kane but you don't pay £60m for that. The signing, to me, always felt like an opportunity to take advantage of Everton's financial position, rather than because he was the best player we identified for whatever position we were recruiting for.

In retrospect it's hard to think that £60m wouldn't have been better spent on a centre back, an attacking midfielder or a proper wide forward.

I hope Postecoglou finds a place for him in the team where he can shine.

He was clearly bought as a rotation player for Kane and Son. It made sense after years of having no effective back up for Kane. Especially in a season we were in the champions league so needed high quality back ups.

He was really effective earlier in the season. Every time he came off the bench he seemed to make and impact, to such an extent many were calling for him to start instead of a non-scoring Son.

Yes he’s had a disappointing season but a large part of that is spending time out injured and then struggling to build up any rhythm.
 

cliff jones

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Poor first season but dogged by injuries and the inevitable loss of confidence that comes with being benched and for a striker, not finding the net.

It will be a real test for Ange, given his strong preference I'm told for 4-3-3, to give him minutes and get him firing- he's the biggest victim of the failure to qualify for Europe IMHO
 

E17yid

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If Kane had another 3 or 4 years on his contract and Son didn’t just have a terrible season (by his standards) then I’d be more sympathetic to recouping our money on Slick Rick. As it is I don’t think it would make much sense to sell him now.

Plus I like him and think he has way more to offer
 

BENNO

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He'd be one of our main 'below par' players who i'd strongly suggest is a lot better than he showed last season and will prove so this season. Never got going, mostly due to injuries but would also add that he was very unlucky with one (or two?) goals ruled out by VAR, one an absolute screamer. Had he stayed fit at the WC after a cracking start, things could have looked so different and his transfer fee would have looked good value, - i reckon he's well appreciated abroad.

Having said all that, given the likely style of play and Kane staying, then yeah, i'd seriously consider a sale at a profit (or no loss at the very least, presumably he never triggered any of the add ons to make it £60m not a flat £50m)
 
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