Player Watch Player Watch: Pape Sarr

[Basil Brush]

Sorry but I have to pick you up on this. Sarr was loaned out for the season before Conte joined. We've had three first team friendlies this pre-season and he has played in all of them. Do you think Conte should be starting him ahead of Skipp, Hojbjerg, Bissouma and Bentancur, at 19 years old in his first pre-season with us?

Thank you for responding to me.

I really believe Conte will not start him over those 4 when the premier league starts.

That is why I think he should be loaned out

 

[Pebble Dash]

Thank you for responding to me.

I really believe Conte will not start him over those 4 when the premier league starts.

That is why I think he should be loaned out

He likely won’t start but do we need 5 central midfielders? Absolutely.

We’ll be playing in multiple competitions, there will be fatigue, injuries, suspensions, possible poor form, changes of formation eg 352…. 4 established central midfielders plus 1 younger player is a must.

 

[bbunc]

He likely won’t start but do we need 5 central midfielders? Absolutely.

We’ll be playing in multiple competitions, there will be fatigue, injuries, suspensions, possible poor form, changes of formation eg 352…. 4 established central midfielders plus 1 younger player is a must.

I’d anticipate Devine would be that young emergency 5th guy for this season and we try to get Sarr another loan.

 

[Sandro30]

I’d anticipate Devine would be that young emergency 5th guy for this season and we try to get Sarr another loan.

Devine is definitely going out on loan to get consistent first team minutes this season.

 

[mil1lion]

It will be interesting to see who we loan and who we keep. We've had good history with loaning our homegrown out. I fancy White and Devine to go on loan this season. I wouldn't mind keeping Sarr as would think he would learn so much from Bissouma, Hojbjerg and Bentancur. I would also be a little cautious over Skipp having missed him a few months last season. Similar with Sess who had injuries I think having 5 wing backs and 5 central midfielders is a smart move. It just covers us in case they struggle.

I think young players need to be protected from playing too much. Looking at Barca as another example where Pedri and Ansu have suffered from injuries being played regularly for the first team. I think the younger players may need to be rotated a bit more. Having Sarr to rotate time with Skipp would maybe help protect them both physically.

 

[Timberwolf]

He likely won’t start but do we need 5 central midfielders? Absolutely.

We’ll be playing in multiple competitions, there will be fatigue, injuries, suspensions, possible poor form, changes of formation eg 352…. 4 established central midfielders plus 1 younger player is a must.

I'd say 4 is an absolute must, but 5 is borderline. Even the top teams don't have 3 layers of depth for every position (City have won the title with 3 first team CBs/FBs, Pool with fuck all depth in a couple of positions) and you have to weight up the benefits vs the costs.

Overwhelming odds are he'd only get a handful of appearances if he stays(league cup, dead-rubbers in Europe, late sub apps) and he'd largely be a benchwarmer. I think that would be fine in the first half of the season as he's new to the club and country, but in the second half of the season a loan could be the way to go if we're doing ok with injuries post WC.

Young players need games to develop and we don't want to stunt his development just in case we get an insane run of injuries and suspensions. Worst case scenario we have other players that can cover, which is exactly what City and Liverpool have done by playing the likes of Milner, Rodri, Fernandinho and Fabinho out of position when they get lots of injuries.

 

[arunspurs]

Sarr has a contract with us till 2026.

If we see him as a future player, then I would like to keep him in England, make sure he settles & picks up English language.

At 19, he doesn't cost us a squad space. So, this could be with us giving him minutes time here & there. Or loan to a PL or Championship club based in London. Key for me is he is in England for 22/23

 

[Timberwolf]

Sarr has a contract with us till 2026.

If we see him as a future player, then I would like to keep him in England, make sure he settles & picks up English language.

At 19, he doesn't cost us a squad space. So, this could be with us giving him minutes time here & there. Or loan to a PL or Championship club based in London. Key for me is he is in England for 22/23

Yeah I think that could be good for him - maybe a 6 month loan to a Championship team or a bottom half PL team in the second half of the season?

I wonder if sending him straight out to the Championship when he's barely been in the country would be overwhelming for him, though? It can be a brutal league and a few months to settle in at Spurs first might do him good. Given the WC starts in November it wouldn't be too long and those 4 months with the first team would be a good buffer for him.

 

[Basil Brush]

Sarr has a contract with us till 2026.

If we see him as a future player, then I would like to keep him in England, make sure he settles & picks up English language.

At 19, he doesn't cost us a squad space. So, this could be with us giving him minutes time here & there. Or loan to a PL or Championship club based in London. Key for me is he is in England for 22/23

I said the same and got 4 disagrees on the last page.

Oh well, that is spurs community for you..

 

[worcestersauce]

So there are people who think he should be loaned out and people who think he should stay, well you might both be right.
I think we'll keep him around with the squad then once he's settled in and if appropriate l think we may loan him in January. If he impresses and we keep him all season then we all win.
I have nothing more to go on but the fact that's what I'd do.

 

[DodgyLasagne]

So there are people who think he should be loaned out and people who think he should stay, well you might both be right.
I think we'll keep him around with the squad then once he's settled in and if appropriate l think we may loan him in January. If he impresses and we keep him all season then we all win.
I have nothing more to go on but the fact that's what I'd do.

I think we should loan him out on the weekends so he can play regularly in League matches, but have him back during the week so he can play Cup matches and train with Conte.

Why has no one thought of that?

 

[Basil Brush]

So there are people who think he should be loaned out and people who think he should stay, well you might both be right.
I think we'll keep him around with the squad then once he's settled in and if appropriate l think we may loan him in January. If he impresses and we keep him all season then we all win.
I have nothing more to go on but the fact that's what I'd do.

He will either be sold or go on loan.

Just admit you are wrong

 

[Yid-ol]

I said the same and got 4 disagrees on the last page.

Oh well, that is spurs community for you..

Not technically true though. Looks like you got the disagrees for saying Conte seems reluctant to trust playing him in the first team so far, not your post about him going out on loan...

Oh well, that is spurs community for you....

 

[Scorpio666]

Devine is definitely going out on loan to get consistent first team minutes this season.

He needs to stay with us this season to qualify as a club trained player.

 

[Basil Brush]

Not technically true though. Looks like you got the disagrees for saying Conte doesn't trust him, not your post about going out on loan...

Oh well, that is spurs community for you....

And yet it appears Conte doesn't trust him by signing players like bentacaur and bissouma while Sarr is a spurs player.

Work that out

 

[vegassd]

I said the same and got 4 disagrees on the last page.

Oh well, that is spurs community for you..

Didn't you say that you thought Conte doesn't trust him enough to play him in the first team? Which is quite a different statement, and one that people were pointing out that Conte has played him at every opportunity so far.

I would personally love to see Sarr stick around and get whatever minutes he can here. Conte definitely seems like he values a player being able to follow his instructions over pure natural ability, which hopefully plays into Sarr's favour (assuming he is following instructions).

He might not start a game for a few months but I'm sure there will be opportunities given the extra subs next season. And I think there's a big difference between having the trust of your manager and being a nailed on starter. Sarr is very young so it makes sense to have more experienced midfielders starting ahead of him. But that doesn't mean he isn't trusted/valued/rated or whatever you want to call it by Conte.

 

[N'Obody]

As good as a loan to a championship club would benefit him. He does need to stick around for at least half a season at spurs to get used to the culture and also be comfortable mentally.

Development isn't purely just physically and in football terms. Mental development is probably just as key. He needs to feel welcome and prepared for English football. By being around the 1st team squad on match days, to embrace the atmosphere and to really absorb the culture.

He's a young kid and this would benefit him more in the long run as it would acclimatise him properly.

 

[Basil Brush]

Didn't you say that you thought Conte doesn't trust him enough to play him in the first team? Which is quite a different statement, and one that people were pointing out that Conte has played him at every opportunity so far.

I would personally love to see Sarr stick around and get whatever minutes he can here. Conte definitely seems like he values a player being able to follow his instructions over pure natural ability, which hopefully plays into Sarr's favour (assuming he is following instructions).

He might not start a game for a few months but I'm sure there will be opportunities given the extra subs next season. And I think there's a big difference between having the trust of your manager and being a nailed on starter. Sarr is very young so it makes sense to have more experienced midfielders starting ahead of him. But that doesn't mean he isn't trusted/valued/rated or whatever you want to call it by Conte.

Long story short, I said Sarr should be loaned out as I am not sure Conte trusts him.

 

[Basil Brush]

Not technically true though. Looks like you got the disagrees for saying Conte seems reluctant to trust playing him in the first team so far, not your post about him going out on loan...

Oh well, that is spurs community for you....

You are obviously wrong, but I love your negative ratings.

 

[JR1994]

We didn’t pay 16m for the CAF young player of the year, whose been playing regular football in Ligue 1 and internationally. To send him on loan to the championship. Why would he ever want that? Don’t see the benefit in him playing at a lower level for a year