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Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa

Peterh1980

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Or the contrary tbf, we just simply haven’t seen enough of him
Which considering everything probably says all (meaning Conte comments, ITK etc etc, there is nothing other than fans pushing for it……. And let’s be honest we’re emotional fuckwits)
 

Fredo

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Pardon?! Conte never wanted him, so why the hell should he play him?! I'm sorry, but I would love to know your reasoning behind why Conte has "totally fucked this up". Get him out on loan or permanent, I'm easy, but he's currently nowhere near good enough to be a RWB for us. And it should speak volumes that Emerson and Doherty have started ahead of him when they're both very limited players.
It doesnt speak volumes in a footballing sense that Doherty and Emerson start over him

It speaks volumes in an egotistical sense regarding Conte, althought nothing against him not playing him as he didn't want him in the first place.

Its unfair to say Spence is nowhere near good enough for us with 2 minutes on the pitch here and again.
 

bat-chain

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Pardon?! Conte never wanted him, so why the hell should he play him?! I'm sorry, but I would love to know your reasoning behind why Conte has "totally fucked this up". Get him out on loan or permanent, I'm easy, but he's currently nowhere near good enough to be a RWB for us. And it should speak volumes that Emerson and Doherty have started ahead of him when they're both very limited players.
I'm absolutely certain in a season or two he'll be one of the best wing backs in the league, far better than Emerson or Doherty, we'll come back to it then.

Conte is just making a point not playing him to the extent he is, the fact a club with talent ID like Brentford want him should tell us something, they could have Emerson or Doherty too, don't want either though do they.
 

soflapaul

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It doesnt speak volumes in a footballing sense that Doherty and Emerson start over him

It speaks volumes in an egotistical sense regarding Conte, althought nothing against him not playing him as he didn't want him in the first place.

Its unfair to say Spence is nowhere near good enough for us with 2 minutes on the pitch here and again.
while i'm surprised that he hasn't played more, there's a hundred hours on the practice field though. Conte's system breaks down if everyone doesn't do their part regardless of talent level. and by breakdown
 

Reece_Spurs

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The way some of you lot hold Spence like he's the second coming of christ really baffles me. Yes he's not been given many minutes but that's because Conte didn't ask for him and as itks have alluded, he's not put in the effort to get Contes attention.

So stop acting like we have fucking Messi on the bench and not playing him when in fact its a 22 year old un proven championship RWB that the manager didn't even want and more importantly hadn't proven himself enough for a fucking start.

But yeah keep banging the Djed Spence drum just because you don't like Emerson. Who by the way has actually been bloody good the last couple of games.
 

IamSpurtacus

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There is absolutely nothing to back up this statement.
are you suggesting Conte is cutting his nose to spite his own face by benching someone better than his limited options?

He's trusted Gil and now Sarr, as much as he can. Why does he not trust Spence?

He sees him day in day out in training. If he was good enough Conte would pick him, like he dies with Deki - who's the same age.
 
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jackson

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I'm absolutely certain in a season or two he'll be one of the best wing backs in the league, far better than Emerson or Doherty, we'll come back to it then.

Conte is just making a point not playing him to the extent he is, the fact a club with talent ID like Brentford want him should tell us something, they could have Emerson or Doherty too, don't want either though do they.
I find it hard to believe that Conte is seeing this kid on a day to day basis and thinking "this kid is mustard but I didn't want him so I'll stick with two other players I didn't sign just to prove a point"?
 

Joshua

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I'm absolutely certain in a season or two he'll be one of the best wing backs in the league, far better than Emerson or Doherty, we'll come back to it then.

Conte is just making a point not playing him to the extent he is, the fact a club with talent ID like Brentford want him should tell us something, they could have Emerson or Doherty too, don't want either though do they.
I think you’re projecting honestly. There’s no evidence his ceiling is that high and there’s no evidence that’s why Conte isn’t playing him.
 

Joshua

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I find it hard to believe that Conte is seeing this kid on a day to day basis and thinking "this kid is mustard but I didn't want him so I'll stick with two other players I didn't sign just to prove a point"?
Literally. All he cares about is winning. If Spence was smashing it he’d be playing regardless of who recruited him.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I find it hard to believe that Conte is seeing this kid on a day to day basis and thinking "this kid is mustard but I didn't want him so I'll stick with two other players I didn't sign just to prove a point"?

So true. Too many people on here are sat typing their thoughts out wearing a tin foil hat.
 

Spurs 1961

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I find it hard to believe that Conte is seeing this kid on a day to day basis and thinking "this kid is mustard but I didn't want him so I'll stick with two other players I didn't sign just to prove a point"?
Never seen much of the lad and of course nothing since he has been at Spurs. But I do know that Conte has form on not playing people he didn’t ask for. Take Eriksen who was in his way out of Inter until by an injury crisis and struggling form Conte had to bring him on as a sub. Changed the game and the season for Inter becoming unstoppable.

So yes Conte will snub players but also yes if a player comes in and makes a difference Conte will play him
 

carpediem991

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It would be absolutely okay not to play Spence if Emerson or Doherty would have made the RWB spot theirs. But they were most of the time not, I refuse to believe Spence would have done worse or contributed less than these two. At least give him two or three starts to see if he can step up in a match. Training tells you never everything you need to know about the player....only if he is really lazy.
 

spursfan77

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Just because he’s good in your football manager games lads, doesn’t mean he’s as good as that in real life. This is like Rodon all over again when people were crying out for him to play and when he did he didn’t pull up any trees and manager after manager didn’t rate him.

Let’s put him out on loan to another PL club like Palace where he will have similar competition for his place and see if he can displace Ward and Clyne. Then we will know won’t we?
 

carpediem991

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Just because he’s good in your football manager games lads, doesn’t mean he’s as good as that in real life. This is like Rodon all over again when people were crying out for him to play and when he did he didn’t pull up any trees and manager after manager didn’t rate him.

Let’s put him out on loan to another PL club like Palace where he will have similar competition for his place and see if he can displace Ward and Clyne. Then we will know won’t we?
I think most of the people on here do not say he is definitley the quality needed, its more a result of we see week in week out Emerson ( and Doherty) are NOT what we need and especially Emerson is NOT a right wing back. Also players like Sessegnon on the left side don't show either over months that they are the level recquired. Still they get so many games and even in the least important games Spence does not get a run out.

Some people at our club (who are not playing football manager) thought he is what we need by scouting and purchasing him. Its just to give the guy a proper chance in a position were its hard to make the team worse. And if he does, everyone knows it is too early for him.

It will be interesting to see what he does at another PL club. Hope he gets his loan.
 

sparx100

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He looks extremely raw when he has come on but he hasn't exactly been given much tike or in some cases been played in the position we bought him for.

It would be crazy to sell him imo But would be quite happy for him to get the second half o free season at a premiership club. Then we can see what he can do.

His pace alone is an asset. Walker was a clusterfart in giving a goal away defensively and average attacking but he was able to stop teams on the counter and also transition play with the ball extremely quickly which had its advantages. I think Spence is potentially quicker than Walker and we haven't truly replaced Walker yet.....
 
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