Player watch: Danny Rose

[Flashspur]

I really cannot understand racism myself. It’s a cancer in the game and in society.

 

[DCSPUR]

If the issue was only racism, I’d agree. But he makes it clear in the interview that isn’t the sole cause of his discontent.

mate stop digging and do a bit o reflecting

 

[whitesocks]

I can understand why he might want to give up international football after those incidents but his weekly experience playing for Spurs is surely a very positive one. He's living the dream as far as I'm concerned and I don't see why he wants it to end as soon as possible.

Overall I'd rather Rose just kept his head down, and collected a nice extension to his contract in the summer. All these headlines may well cost him.

 

[nailsy]

I can understand why he might want to give up international football after those incidents but his weekly experience playing for Spurs is surely a very positive one. He's living the dream as far as I'm concerned and I don't see why he wants it to end as soon as possible.

Overall I'd rather Rose just kept his head down, and collected a nice extension to his contract in the summer. All these headlines may well cost him.

Who knows? Maybe he doesn't feel part of the group anymore. Maybe he doesn't like the dressing room politics. Look at the grief Gareth Bale got recently for not going to a late night meal with other players in the Real squad. Maybe he doesn't like being a celebrity when he goes out with people staring or strangers coming up to him. Maybe he doesn't like the hatred he's faced with from opposition fans every time he plays. We know he didn't like the comments from Tottenham fans earlier in his career. As he says there's a lot to like about being a professional footballer, but there's a lot of bad stuff that can go with it.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Surely you factor the racist abuse into the salary you pick up. I'm sure he wouldn't experience the same abuse if working in Tesco but then the wages would not be the same!

Oh my fucking days. OH MY FUCKING DAYS.

You really need to sit down consider why the whole statement is car crash.

 

[mckenz]

Fair play Danny Rose, well said.

It's an incredibly honest and personal statement, no filter at all.

It's been good to see Sterling get in the press about this too - different ways of approaching the issue but they are different people.Same issue though and it's got worse over the last decade.

 

[yankspurs]

Danny Rose is making a point that in the grand scheme of things, the punishment to teams/countries is simply not enough. Irrespective of his night out costs, the fundamental point is that there is a major issue still in society and in particular our game. If I heard racist abuse in or around me when watching a game I would happily report it even if it was one of our own fans. It is 2019, this should not even be a thing anymore, just like gender/anti-semitic etc. - the only way it will begin to stop is by putting extreme sanctions on countries teams and domestic teams when this sort of thing occurs - I will say though that FIFA etc.need to come out more to the public and in general to reinforce commitment to this cause. All very well making badges for managers to wear and occasional press releases and so on, but really it needs to be firmer and extreme in my opinion. There is the argument that if one person does this, why should others suffer for this person's poor actions, but actually I think now it has to happen because everyone will stand taller and not stand for this kind of thing anymore. As Danny says.... enough is enough.

Well imo, any kind of punishment would be a start. Racist incidents at least once a week on football now with no punishment. Bonucci apologizing for opposing fans racism toward his teammate and he keeps his position. The authorites and clubs do nothing to police it. If they actually did, chelsea would have been given a full season home supporters ban at this point.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

Good for Danny to come out and say how he feels. Each person will react in a different way to their experiences in being abused so to say he should react the same as Sterling or whoever is wrong. Maybe Sterling feels the same but publicly thinks it's not the way to deal with it.

Also it's too big a subject to try and explain one's own views on a football forum as one misplaced word will be jumped on.

 

[MightyModric]

Sickens me that some people on here think that racism is such small issue that can be downplayed so easily.

It's disgusting and I'm so glad that Sterling and Rose and hopefully many others who have experienced it are starting to speak out against the and the organisation doing so little to prevent it

 

[Gassin's finest]

Where does Danny go on his nights out?!

 

[Gassin's finest]

It was only just a month or so ago, Rose was getting noticeably booed really loudly at Burnley from the opening kick-off, so to say racism only occurs in 'backwards shitholes' is way of the mark. Racist fans in England are just better at doing it in a way that doesn't seem overtly racist, when really it obviously is.

Stoke fans are the master of this art, Rose used to get booed there from kick-off to the final whistle, whenever we played Stoke.

Well...

 

[Dov67]

don't blame him, can imagine how sickening it must feel to be on the receiving end of this all the time. He's also right about how FIFA's fines and punishment are a complete joke and serve as no deterrent whatsoever.

also love how he just says what he feels

 

[Gassin's finest]

Danny, like many footballers, suffers from depression. There's an increasing number of footballers coming out these days and discussing mental health issues, depression, and the stress of being a professional footballer.

And before we go further lets just consider that caveat... the wealth; Because in my experience suffering depression, which isn't something you can help, when coupled with the perceived "having nothing to complain about", only brings about guilt, which in turn fuels the depression.

Anyway, its becoming common within the game for lads wanting to quit the professional game because the life gives them no joy, only misery and stress. Add racism, and inaction over it... it's more than easy to see why someone would have had enough of it.

Check out Chris Kirkland, who quit football over depression, talking about mental health:

 

[JimmyG2]

More likely that Poch. will respond
positively to this declaration.
Danny probably undroppable now.

Its a major problem in Sport and Society at large
and needed urgent action decades ago.

Not the first of our left backs to speak out.

 

[King of Otters]

Fucking hell, if you anyone wants an example of how incredibly detached someone is from reality then read this post, unbelievable. Mate you should have just left the top line as it is rather than attempt to speculate because you just look foolish.

"When countries only get fined what I probably spend on a night out in London then what do you expect?"

But yeah, I'm definitely the example of "how incredibly detached someone is from reality".

Rose is living a life of extraordinary privilege, and carries it like he's received a life sentence for a crime he didn't commit. That seems utterly incongruous to me, but clearly I'm in the minority there.

 

[nailsy]

Well imo, any kind of punishment would be a start. Racist incidents at least once a week on football now with no punishment. Bonucci apologizing for opposing fans racism toward his teammate and he keeps his position. The authorites and clubs do nothing to police it. If they actually did, chelsea would have been given a full season home supporters ban at this point.

I can't disagree with any of that, but I was listening to a show with Leroy Rosenior, who has just been given a MBE for his work trying to get racism out of football, and he was saying that he doesn't agree with full stadium bans. He was saying that as long as clubs are trying to tackle the problem then they shouldn't be punished for the actions of the minority few who ruin it for others. So if Chelsea are actively trying to educate their fans, and putting in systems to identify the culprits and banning those who they catch then he thinks they are doing their bit to tackle the problem. We had that incident with that idiot throwing the banana recently. Should we have to play a game with no fans because of that?

Like Danny said the fines are pathetic. They aren't a deterrent at all so I'm not sure what the point of them is other than to make it look like FIFA are doing something. It just looks feeble.

 

[Stamford]

Surely you factor the racist abuse into the salary you pick up. I'm sure he wouldn't experience the same abuse if working in Tesco but then the wages would not be the same!

Privilege does funny things to people

 

[nailsy]

"When countries only get fined what I probably spend on a night out in London then what do you expect?"

But yeah, I'm definitely the example of "how incredibly detached someone is from reality".

Rose is living a life of extraordinary privilege, and carries it like he's received a life sentence for a crime he didn't commit. That seems utterly incongruous to me, but clearly I'm in the minority there.

That was clearly an exaggeration to make his point.

 

[King of Otters]

That was clearly an exaggeration to make his point.

Well, maybe, but it's up for debate isn't it?

For a guy who must take home £200k plus every month, it's hardly inconceivable that he could afford to drop five figures on a night out.

Although, perhaps not as often as he'd like, if we remember his rant of a couple of years ago on not being paid enough. Detached from reality indeed.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Love Danny Rose