Player watch: Christian Eriksen
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mattyspurs
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Dude how old are you? 10??
BBLG wasn’t even sticking up for CE, he just wasn’t gonna vilify the guy over some rumours about agent talks that may or may not be true.
wrd
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I think people are just saying take unconfirmed reports which have also been dismissed by Munich journalists with a pinch of salt and dont condemn a player without confirmation
BringBack_leGin
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People’s ability to use intangible conjecture to give validate their own opinions will never cease to amaze me.
That was so weird especially as they’d been banging on all match what a genius he was.
In my opinion this man has been poor for almost a year his commitment has been non existent and his mind is arguably in Madrid already but what is up for people to state their opinion on is the way to go about obtaining a move .
For me it is a disgrace the way he and his agents have gone about things . As for unconfirmed reports well it was reported in at least four newspapers and if you are going to say its unconfirmed then I am definitely on a loser ref my stance on Eriksen.
You might as well say that when the football results are reported they are unconfirmed and you can choose to believe what suits your agenda for example your teams result is reported as your team losing four nil but to you that can be ignored as you choose not to believe it .
Would it not be easier to say " I am in the Eriksen camp that has no time for him or his entourage " and you are in the camp that feels " he is doing what is right for him and that is fine ".
For me it is a disgrace the way he and his agents have gone about things . As for unconfirmed reports well it was reported in at least four newspapers and if you are going to say its unconfirmed then I am definitely on a loser ref my stance on Eriksen.
You might as well say that when the football results are reported they are unconfirmed and you can choose to believe what suits your agenda for example your teams result is reported as your team losing four nil but to you that can be ignored as you choose not to believe it .
Would it not be easier to say " I am in the Eriksen camp that has no time for him or his entourage " and you are in the camp that feels " he is doing what is right for him and that is fine ".
wrd
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The most ridiculous attempt at justifying a point Ive ever witnessed.
You can be annoyed at his performances, you can want him out the club thats your opinion and you're entitled to it and that's fine but to sit here and get mad about something which cant be proven as fact is utter nonsense and to compare it to believing the score reports of football matches which are video recorded with thousands of people in attendance is absurd and you're doing yourself and frankly the rest of the us who want to be critical of him a disservice because everytime we try and be critical of him his staunch defenders can just point to crap like this and say there's an agenda.
Well believe it or not its a free world I am allowed to state my view and if you cannot see the connection with choosing what to believe in the newspapers as to what is true and what is not true then OK
I just hope you realise I am an 18 stone man who is all muscle and a Nasty temperament and I know where you live.
I just hope you realise I am an 18 stone man who is all muscle and a Nasty temperament and I know where you live.
wrd
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Sounds hot but unfortunately im spoken for
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slartibartfast
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Who are you actually talking to mate lol?
I dont think anyone here is pro Eriksen. Think everyone is upset with his form and wanting away.
Some of these outlets are making up stories, its what they do.
I'm not in denial of anything.
I know he doesnt want to be here and has been well off form. If he doesnt want to be here then his agent will be doing his job and speaking to other clubs. Who knows if the Bayern story is true or bull?
Do I like it? No. Do I think its ok? No, I think it sucks arse but it is what it is and theres fk all I can do about it.
We know what these footballers are like, if a better offer doesnt come along he may yet still sign a new contract. Unlikely grantes but stranger things have happened.
slartibartfast
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Football agents and integrity dont mix.
And Eriksens agent isnt Eriksen. I doubt he tells Eriksen what he's doing and when he's doing it.
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My view
Lloris : some games good some terrible
Sanchez: Some games good some terrible
Toby: better but not significantly
Jan: yes mainly
Rose: probably not
Dier: no
Alli: no
Winks: yes by a mile
Moura: yes but doesn’t play enough
Whoopee. Eriksen the saint and none of this mess is to do with him .
Just as you refuse to condemn this bloke I choose to lay a large amount of our predicament at this moment in time on his doorstep .
Who knows you are probably right and I am 100% wrong who knows but unless you have people like me stating my views you lot will carry on in your narcissistic way . Also its boring just agreeing with each other and a lot of my views are playing devils advocate .
So which is better all in agreement or having someone like me to have a go at .
For me anything is better than joining a discussion where everyone is in agreement.
Just as you refuse to condemn this bloke I choose to lay a large amount of our predicament at this moment in time on his doorstep .
Who knows you are probably right and I am 100% wrong who knows but unless you have people like me stating my views you lot will carry on in your narcissistic way . Also its boring just agreeing with each other and a lot of my views are playing devils advocate .
So which is better all in agreement or having someone like me to have a go at .
For me anything is better than joining a discussion where everyone is in agreement.
mattyspurs
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Who has said he is a saint??? Are you having an argument with someone in your head and it’s spilling out into here?
rez9000
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But dude, we’re not all in agreement.
The issue is whether we should or should not condemn anyone based on an unsubstantiated rumour from a group of people that is notorious for peddling bullshit.
But actually there's a larger point here too. The idea of players disrespecting the club is certainly emotive, but it’s not actually very meaningful or realistic. The reason being is that players at football clubs are employees, nothing more. Yes, you have the occasional Harry Kane or Harry Winks who are also fans of the club, but that still takes a back seat to their working lives. That's what being a football player is: a job. It might be a glamourous and well-paid job, but it's a job nonetheless.
An employee does need to show some respect to their organisation, but only in as much as they don't bring their organisation into disrepute unless the organisation itself has acted improperly and are deserving of that reputational damage. Eriksen hasn't done that.
As a working person, meeting with a potential employer is not a disrespectful act, especially if you have already informed your current employer that you intend to seek employment elsewhere. In all likelihood, any meeting between Eriksen's agent and Bayern's representatives would have been arranged days, even weeks in advance. The idea of respect is shown as meaningless right there as they would have had no idea what the result was going to be on the night. As a single employee, the idea that you should cancel a meeting about your career just because your organisation had a bad outcome is ridiculous. If you were looking to move on from your job, would you accept your boss telling you to cancel a meeting with a potential employer just because last year's sales figures looked bad? More to the point, would you accept your employer telling your representative to cancel the meeting?
Look, I understand the emotiveness of football. I'm mindful of the fact that we all have a much more vested interest in our club than the players. For better or worse though, that's the way football is. There's certainly a debate to be had as to whether the current state of things such as player power, contract status and the financial side of things (which is what all this really boils down to in most cases) is a good thing or a bad thing, but a nebulously defined concept of 'respect' is not currently part of the equation, so we can't judge an individual for lacking or holding values that aren't currently relevant.
We can criticise Eriksen for his performance levels - and lots have and will - because performing is what he is paid to do. That is justifiable. Criticising him for furthering his career (in his mind) isn't, because he hasn't brought the club into disrepute.
It seems to me that Eriksen has been a professional regarding the contract and has every right to work it down to get the most money possible in the summer window. With that said, the club has every right to do what it wants with him time left on the contract to do what is in the best interest of the team. If he refuses to go in the January window where we get something for him, then it comes down to the incremental gain by getting others onto the pitch for their development vs the possible reduction in capabilities on the field. At his current state of play, he is not playing near his best but does hit the occasional game winner. It's not a simple choice for the club at all especially while GLC has been sidelined.
If he does get benched then his attitude determines whether he stays on the bench or gets set aside. If set aside, then a clear explanation to the players should satisfy any and all that play for the badge. They know his performances have been subpar.
My best guess is that his best use will be situational based on who we are playing. For the lesser teams, take him off. For the better teams put him on because every thoroughbred wants to be playing and he'd make the most of it that way. But this is purely a guess.
If he does get benched then his attitude determines whether he stays on the bench or gets set aside. If set aside, then a clear explanation to the players should satisfy any and all that play for the badge. They know his performances have been subpar.
My best guess is that his best use will be situational based on who we are playing. For the lesser teams, take him off. For the better teams put him on because every thoroughbred wants to be playing and he'd make the most of it that way. But this is purely a guess.
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SpunkyBackpack
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It makes me laugh that people are still going on about Eriksen 'not looking interested' and 'clearly doesn't care' by watching his body language. The guy is fucking Danish, he's never looked remotely interested in anything since he got here. You could tell a Dane that they've been elected King of the Universe and they'd have the same facial expression as if you told them someone set their dog on fire.
I mean he has been a bit crap but don't think because you've gone all Sherlock Holmes and deduced his body language that any of it means jack shit.
I mean he has been a bit crap but don't think because you've gone all Sherlock Holmes and deduced his body language that any of it means jack shit.
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That is very true.
What I will say though is Eriksen is more privat/down to earth than most of Danish people. And that don't go down well with English people, I learned that!
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