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Player Paulo Dybala

nailsy

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I’ve seen a lot of these posts about how it can’t be a move to force Betis hand because Dybala is more expensive. Haven’t reached end of thread yet so don’t know if it’s been addressed, but have to disagree entirely with that notion ...

It’s not like our stance on prices is based entirely on convincing a team how much or how little money we have in our piggy bank.

We have a figure we believe that Lo Celso is worth. We aren’t willing to budge much beyond that. We have a figure that we believe Dybala is worth and it’s probably more than Lo Celso for a variety of reasons. Betis don’t have to believe we have no money left in some silly hoodwinking manoeuvre, they just have to know how much we think the player is worth and how strong we are that we won’t bend on that front. And that now we have identified a player we believe to be available and may now use all that money on him instead of Lo Celso.

I’m not suggesting Dybala is purely an effort to put pressure on Betis, however, wanted to dispel the notion that he couldn’t be because he cost more
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I was going to make the same point. It's all about what we're prepared to pay for the player, not how much money we have in the bank. If it was just about how much money we have Betis would just point to our annual financial report and we'd have paid the amount they wanted already.

This still feels like a strange link as an alternative to Lo Celso to me, but maybe that's just because I don't know enough about either player and how their skill-sets compare.

Just feels like one of those ones where, if he’s available, a bigger fish comes along. But then it felt like that with Ndombele and I don’t think any club has as big a draw as Poch right now.

Fuck knows.

True, but there aren't that many fish that are bigger these days. We were 10th on the Deloitte Money League this year and you can probably rule out half the teams above us for this transfer based on their needs and current squad make-up. Like you say Poch is a big draw and we could probably match his current wages so deals like this one aren't as fanciful as they were even a year ago.
 

Hakkz

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I'm not sure about Dybala. I've been on a Juve forum and the general consensus is he was great as a young player with unbelievable potential but hasn't really stepped up in the last 2 seasons. At 25, he needs a break out season where he truly dominates games to be considered truly elite, as he's too old and experienced for the young player shtick.
I also garnered he's cack on the wing.

I wanted him just because everyone and his dog has heard of Dybala, but like most haven't seen much of him. I wanted the Dybala legend. This mythical beast that in my mind is amazing. The Game changer.
After reading their forums maybe keeping CE would be more advantageous. I just don't know

Much rather keep Eriksen than selling him and risk trying Dybala in England. He's overrated as you say.
 

wrd

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People don't believe this could happen - Ndombele was probably more sought after than Dybala

I also think if we signed Dybala that Ndombele is still the bigger statement signing. Dybala whilst talented is clearly out of favour in an extremely stacked Juventus team, Ndombele was as you say one of the most highly sought after midfielders in world football.
 

glospur

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I'm not sure about Dybala. I've been on a Juve forum and the general consensus is he was great as a young player with unbelievable potential but hasn't really stepped up in the last 2 seasons. At 25, he needs a break out season where he truly dominates games to be considered truly elite, as he's too old and experienced for the young player shtick.
I also garnered he's cack on the wing.

I wanted him just because everyone and his dog has heard of Dybala, but like most haven't seen much of him. I wanted the Dybala legend. This mythical beast that in my mind is amazing. The Game changer.
After reading their forums maybe keeping CE would be more advantageous. I just don't know
Hasn't stepped it up in the last two seasons?

He scored 22 league goals the season before last as a second striker! How is that not stepping it up?
 

rossdapep

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Would JJ say there is truth to this if it was just released to make Betis sweat?

I don't believe he's ever done that before, it's not really his style. When we were getting linked to Fernandes it seemed like it was done to put pressure on Lyon, JJ denied it almost immediately. I'm pretty sure if it was tactics he would have done the same here or at least made no comment.
 

pelayo59

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Would JJ say there is truth to this if it was just released to make Betis sweat?

I don't believe he's ever done that before, it's not really his style. When we were getting linked to Fernandes it seemed like it was done to put pressure on Lyon, JJ denied it almost immediately. I'm pretty sure if it was tactics he would have done the same here or at least made no comment.
He said that we are really interested in Dybala, not to pressure Betis.
 

barry

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Hasn't stepped it up in the last two seasons?

He scored 22 league goals the season before last as a second striker! How is that not stepping it up?

I don't know mate. My statement was made up of Juve fans' sentiments. It could be bitterness because he might leave, or maybe they feel he's expendable. Haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion myself.
 

glospur

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I don't know mate. My statement was made up of Juve fans' sentiments. It could be bitterness because he might leave, or maybe they feel he's expendable. Haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion myself.
Oh, right. Sorry, mate, I misinterpreted you comment as being your opinion.
 

Haddock

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If Juventus is prepared to sell Dybala and if the player himself is open to a move I'd reckon City, Liverpool, Bayern, United etc would all be on the alert.

I'm sure we're interested but I don't believe it will go further than that.
 

Japhet

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Posted this on the front page but is anyone else concerned about his goals drying up last season compared to previous? Or did he play a different role?

Yes. He went from being an integral part of Juve's team to being one of 10 fluffers for Christiano Ronaldo.
 

Spurrific

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Reckon talking about JJ’s tweet is a bit iffy - he’s deleted it, presumably because he doesn’t want it out there. Seems wrong to keep referring to it.

But then wtf am I doing right now?
 

Wsussexspur

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If Juventus is prepared to sell Dybala and if the player himself is open to a move I'd reckon City, Liverpool, Bayern, United etc would all be on the alert.

I'm sure we're interested but I don't believe it will go further than that.

Not sure about Liverpool and city but sure Utd would be interested and possible Bayern given they are trying to sign Sane might see Dybala as a more gettable alternative. But on other hand IF they did sign Sane then that may bring city into play.
 

DONOS10

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Reckon talking about JJ’s tweet is a bit iffy - he’s deleted it, presumably because he doesn’t want it out there. Seems wrong to keep referring to it.

But then wtf am I doing right now?

Has he? I still see his Tweet...

Edit: I still see the tweet, but says "Failed to Load Tweet"...
 

SpartanSpur

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If Juventus is prepared to sell Dybala and if the player himself is open to a move I'd reckon City, Liverpool, Bayern, United etc would all be on the alert.

I'm sure we're interested but I don't believe it will go further than that.

Yeah if the first 3 you say are interested I don't think we'd have a chance. Utd I think we'd have a chance against, just because of the Poch factor and how low Utd's stock is currently. The interesting thing is that Juve seem interested in selling and the player interested in moving.
 

Gloryhunter

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He was at fan event, video with him and Poch etc.
Eriksen together with Lucas, NDombele, Sissoko, Marsh, BLF, was involved in one of 2 concurrent fans' engagement events last Saturday. Kane, Sonny, Jan and Toby werent involved in either events.
 

rossdapep

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If Juventus is prepared to sell Dybala and if the player himself is open to a move I'd reckon City, Liverpool, Bayern, United etc would all be on the alert.

I'm sure we're interested but I don't believe it will go further than that.
I'd consider the first two out. City can't bring in another non-HG player and have said Sane is not for sale. Liverpool have said that they will not spend big, plus I can't see them wanting to break up the Mane, Salah & Firmino set. Don't think Dybala fits in with Klopp's rapid attack either.

United will be interested but will need to shift Pogba first. Bayern would be a great fit but they've already spent a fair bit, so we'll have to see.
 

Matrix

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Much rather keep Eriksen than selling him and risk trying Dybala in England. He's overrated as you say.

Most important thing is Eriksen needs to sign that contract or he can go for peanuts so it not as easy as “just keep Eriksen”.
 
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