Nicolò Zaniolo

[Trix]

Given Zaniolo was a) clearly attainable at a price we could reasonably afford, b) very eager to move, and c) allegedly someone Conte really likes, either Levy or the club (other directors, Paratici scouts, etc) must have had serious doubts about him. That the player has ended up moving to Turkey as opposed to any other even mid tier clubs in the major football leagues suggests other top clubs felt the same.

No doubt he could go on and prove all those teams wrong but it feels like it may have been a very risky deal for us at a time where we really can’t afford to make many more mistakes.

I think there were doubts from some quarters. I also think Danjuma was incredibly cheap with very little risk, which fell into our lap with next to no groundwork required to get him in. When you add in the clubs opinion Roma were over valuing him, it's very obvious why Levy went that way instead.

 

[Trix]

I think there were doubts from some quarters. I also think Danjuma was incredibly cheap with very little risk, which fell into our lap with next to no groundwork required to get him in. When you add in the clubs opinion Roma were over valuing him, it's very obvious why Levy went that way instead.

I'll also add I think Roma have probably lost about 7-8 million Euro's on this in the space of a month. Obviously depending on what clauses they have inserted into the deal with Galatasaray.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I think there were doubts from some quarters. I also think Danjuma was incredibly cheap with very little risk, which fell into our lap with next to no groundwork required to get him in. When you add in the clubs opinion Roma were over valuing him, it's very obvious why Levy went that way instead.

The thing that I find the most odd is that they play different positions. I can understand the shift away from Zaniolo to another player if the club have major concerns about him. Even tho im still not quite sure why we chased him for two windows in that case. But what I don’t get is why we moved from RW to LW. I’m not really sure we needed a third LW considering how little Richy plays in general.

 

[fecka]

Turkey is probably his level. There often seems to be turbulence around him which we definitely can do without so I think this is for the best in the end.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

The thing that I find the most odd is that they play different positions. I can understand the shift away from Zaniolo to another player if the club have major concerns about him. Even tho im still not quite sure why we chased him for two windows in that case. But what I don’t get is why we moved from RW to LW. I’m not really sure we needed a third LW considering how little Richy plays in general.

meh Levy just considers the financials only instead of football so it is not surprising

 

[Timberwolf]

The thing that I find the most odd is that they play different positions. I can understand the shift away from Zaniolo to another player if the club have major concerns about him. Even tho im still not quite sure why we chased him for two windows in that case. But what I don’t get is why we moved from RW to LW. I’m not really sure we needed a third LW considering how little Richy plays in general.

Yeah the profile of player we've allegedly targeted as a 'Kulu backup' makes zero sense. The style (and position) of the players are all over the place.

Milenovskyi, Zaniolo, Danjuma, Deulofeu, Sarr, Trossard...

Doesn't seem like we targeted a specific profile at all for this one.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

The thing that I find the most odd is that they play different positions. I can understand the shift away from Zaniolo to another player if the club have major concerns about him. Even tho im still not quite sure why we chased him for two windows in that case. But what I don’t get is why we moved from RW to LW. I’m not really sure we needed a third LW considering how little Richy plays in general.

Don’t disagree with your point but I think that both Richarlison and Danjuma could play to the right to a decent level now that we have a creative outlet at RWB in Porro.

I’m also a bit surprised that Son hasn’t been tried more to the right when his signature finish seems to be the left footed finish below.

Other memorable Son goals from the right hand side include his solo goal against Chelsea at Wembley, the first goal of the new stadium vs Palace and the goal in the first CL QF against City.

 

[djhotspur]

Don’t disagree with your point but I think that both Richarlison and Danjuma could play to the right to a decent level now that we have a creative outlet at RWB in Porro.

I’m also a bit surprised that Son hasn’t been tried more to the right when his signature finish seems to be the left footed finish below.

Other memorable Son goals from the right hand side include his solo goal against Chelsea at Wembley, the first goal of the new stadium vs Palace and the goal in the first CL QF against City.

Yeah I do get why we don’t play son at rw. He clearly is fine there. He’s not exactly scoring so it’s better to move him there then waste richie or danjuma there

 

[DJS]

Yeah I do get why we don’t play son at rw. He clearly is fine there. He’s not exactly scoring so it’s better to move him there then waste richie or danjuma there

Yep or at least have them switch about during the game to confuse the opposition.

 

[dude573]

Don’t disagree with your point but I think that both Richarlison and Danjuma could play to the right to a decent level now that we have a creative outlet at RWB in Porro.

I’m also a bit surprised that Son hasn’t been tried more to the right when his signature finish seems to be the left footed finish below.

Other memorable Son goals from the right hand side include his solo goal against Chelsea at Wembley, the first goal of the new stadium vs Palace and the goal in the first CL QF against City.

Is it because Kane is predominantly right footed? Easier to find Son's runs when he is on the left maybe.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

The reason we play Son on the left is because even though he's superb at striking the ball on both feet he remains naturally right footed and you can tell this with the way he takes touches with the ball and the angles he plays on.

Floating across the pitch during an action and scoring goals on his left foot is very different to being fixed on the right as a base position.

Son's most dangerous off the ball run is out to in behind the FB and RCB from the left side, coming in on to his right foot.

 

[whitechina]

Backing Conte is one thing but paying big money for someone who has been out of form since his 2 serious injuries, only has 18 months left on his contract and that no one else really wants would be bad business. Glad we held firm on this one

When you look at it like this I completely agree~ I wanted him but bullet dodged I feel

 

[theShiznit]

The reason we play Son on the left is because even though he's superb at striking the ball on both feet he remains naturally right footed and you can tell this with the way he takes touches with the ball and the angles he plays on.

Floating across the pitch during an action and scoring goals on his left foot is very different to being fixed on the right as a base position.

Son's most dangerous off the ball run is out to in behind the FB and RCB from the left side, coming in on to his right foot.

What is the point though in playing Richarlison on the right when Son would be a lot more effective there?
Hell to not even try him there when we have all seen that Richarlison offers little to nothing there.
And Son can go both ways with pace.
I don't know if Danjuma can play RWF but to me Son would be first replacement for Kulu there which in turn opens up the left for Richarlison and Dunjuma.

If nothing else it would give us more (better balanced) options.

LWF:
Son, Richarlison/Danjuma.

CF:
Kane, Richarlison, Son

RWF:
Kulu, Son, Richarlison/Danjuma

Could also open up options with Kulu in the 10 role against bus parkers.

 

[nico97531]

What is the point though in playing Richarlison on the right when Son would be a lot more effective there?
Hell to not even try him there when we have all seen that Richarlison offers little to nothing there.
And Son can go both ways with pace.
I don't know if Danjuma can play RWF but to me Son would be first replacement for Kulu there which in turn opens up the left for Richarlison and Dunjuma.

If nothing else it would give us more (better balanced) options.

LWF:
Son, Richarlison/Danjuma.

CF:
Kane, Richarlison, Son

RWF:
Kulu, Son, Richarlison/Danjuma

Could also open up options with Kulu in the 10 role against bus parkers.

Not sure about that, seem to remember Son been tried on the right during the Poch years and not being very effective. And besides if Son is back to or close to back to his best then you don’t move him away from his most effective position to accommodate someone who’s not going to be as effective which is simply going to put the team in a disadvantage.

 

[theShiznit]

Not sure about that, seem to remember Son been tried on the right during the Poch years and not being very effective. And besides if Son is back to or close to back to his best then you don’t move him away from his most effective position to accommodate someone who’s not going to be as effective which is simply going to put the team in a disadvantage.

You need to rotate to keep players fresh and in form.
Playing Son 90 minutes a game on the left is to the detriment of Richarlison and Danjuma.
Insisting on Bringing Richarlison on in place of Kulusevski when he is so limited there (offers nothing more than hard work and a body) Is hampering us much more than trying Son there would, especially now we have other options on the left.

 

[dtxspurs]

Roma's Sporting director with quite a quote - "Even I may think I should earn X money, but if I decide to leave Roma and I see that only Bournemout and Galatasary want me, you have to ask yourself some questions".

I'm personally not convinced we were interested in him very much, if at all.

 

[djhotspur]

You need to rotate to keep players fresh and in form.
Playing Son 90 minutes a game on the left is to the detriment of Richarlison and Danjuma.
Insisting on Bringing Richarlison on in place of Kulusevski when he is so limited there (offers nothing more than hard work and a body) Is hampering us much more than trying Son there would, especially now we have other options on the left.

Yes but with porro now we could switch to a 3 5 2 and still have threat down that side so Kulu can be rested that way.

 

[Rob]

I think there were doubts from some quarters. I also think Danjuma was incredibly cheap with very little risk, which fell into our lap with next to no groundwork required to get him in. When you add in the clubs opinion Roma were over valuing him, it's very obvious why Levy went that way instead.

You had me at “Levy… incredibly cheap…”

 

[Scot-Spur]

You had me at “Levy… incredibly cheap…”

Bit off topic but can we get a summer scouting thread in spurs chat?

 

[14/04/91]

It seems we were only ever interested in a loan deal (initially) and that's probably the right decision. Ok not huge money at 20m but if we had doubts, then best to step away. We don't want to be stuck with yet another player deemed not good quite enough, taking up wage budget and a squad place.