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[Trent Crimm]

I’ll always be a fan, but I won’t spend a penny at the club until he’s gone. Thankfully there’s a guy in Walthamstow market who gets the kits and sells them for £25 for my kids!

Mike. Just do it

 

[Trent Crimm]

This manager hunt echoes my youth, spending nights out in clubs on the pull. Early on in the evening you’re eyeing up all the stunners.
One by one they disappear and you’re left going home at 2am choosing between the borderline psychotic bird who wants to make her cage fighter ex-boyfriend jealous, or the big lass with the limp.

Limpy would be slower to escape

 

[Lamelasrightfoot]

I've been saying all the way through the last few years I don't want Levy out I just want him to give the football side up. I'm now fully out. Some of the stuff I've heard over the last few days eclipses anything previous.

My mate spoke to someone this morning who told him about a conversation he'd had with Levy.... When talking about the fans unrest and chanting Levy replied "that's football and fans are fickle, it will all go away once we win a few games".
The guy is completely deluded.

Anyway enough about that let's talk about your season ticket money?

I understand fans are fickle but fans also remember and more and more this man is making the club s laughing stock. This may go away for an after a few wins but history says we will be back here and it will get more and more hostile.

 

[jolsnogross]

You can't spend the best part of 6 months evaluating and courting managers to take on a long term project with the over riding belief you are going to be sacking them in 18 months.

Seriously guys, stop trying to make sense of all this, because those at the top sure as hell aren't.

We are now genuinely at the point where they are looking for the best save face option. Absolute fucking shambles.

The only mildly interesting thing Levy said during that Cambridge society Q&A is how clubs on the continent often run on a model where head coaches are replaced every two years. He didn't develop that thought much, and the questioner(s) were hopeless with follow ups. But the implication was that this model was a good thing. And that he and some fellow suits could run Spurs this way. As a kind of fancy Watford, but with success.

So to the extent anyone is seeking out some sort of Levy plan, this is probably it. Levy himself is the long term option. His fellow suits have his ear. Players are medium term assets, and 'head coaches' should come in to do as they're told with the squad provided and expect a short contract that they wont see out.

 

[EQP]

Prof confirming what we basically already know. God, I hate Levy:

Hypothetically, if AS had said "If you want me to leave a place where I'm beloved and have CL football, I need you to show your commitment to me by making a viable compensation offer to Feyenoord before I meet with them about an improved contract. ", and (again, hypothetically) if we had tried a 'take our low-ball offer or we walk away' tactic (a tactic which we have used more than once before), AS may have gained the impression that working for DL would be more aggravating and stressful than he was comfortable with. Hypothetically.

In Levy's defense

 

[KingNick]

It's not always the idea of negotiation - its the manner in which we seem to negotiate.

Levy is probably a very good negotiator in a one-off situation, when he plays hardball with a low initial offer.

The problem becomes when you need an on-going relationship, or if you deal in small circles, or if you are negotiating for something you really want - then you run the risk of alienating your negotiating partner, to the point they don't want to do business with you - just not worth the aggravation.

It also sends a negative message to players/managers that suggests you don't value them very highly when you make low ball offers for their services. People like to feel wanted.

Slot would have been made to feel wanted by the size of the salary offer not how much Feyenoord would receive. It’s just a strange idea that he was the one that pulled the deal rather than see if the two clubs could find agreement through continued negotiation

 

[SDogg]

I’ll always be a fan, but I won’t spend a penny at the club until he’s gone. Thankfully there’s a guy in Walthamstow market who gets the kits and sells them for £25 for my kids!

Cut out the middle man, save yourself some money and go straight to DH gate

 

[Trix]

In whose opinion Trix? I don’t need you to answer this but every comment on here ultimately has an agenda attached. By the very nature of this whole thing then you are subject to a bias of some type. Unless of course you are at the very, very top table and then even then there is a direction.

This suggests I am attacking your comments which I can assure you I’m not. I am just suggesting that Hopefully there may be a plan (!🫣) that we may not all be party to - even your contacts? For the sake of the club I hope so.

I did mention earlier that I have a pretty reasonable contact that told me this has been all slammed shut. What is happening is being kept very quiet.

Mate if it were just me hearing it I'd be inclined to agree. I can assure you we are all hearing the same from different sources from varying positions at the club.

I know some fans are in full siege mentality mode, and others just can't believe things could possibly be this bad, but ask yourself are all of us on here plus other forums and elsewhere on the net, basically every single journalist, numerous ex players and managers all wrong on this?

Then ask yourself were we all wrong 2 years ago when we were again all unified in our appraisal of goings on when we ended up appointing Nuno?

Don't forget this isn't just coming from the club either, it's from external sources too.

 

[Hoopspur]

I guess it needs to be explained that we need anyone who has info to contact us before sharing it or even saying they've a source. That's how we have always rolled.

So please either leave it out of all this or send me and @Rob a PM so we can try and verify. Cheers

I will leave it out and remove my previous post. I don’t want to compromise anyone. I was not suggesting though I had any info whatsoever other than it’s no info.

 

[spursfan77]

He's got Founder's Syndrome.

The ITK all appear to be correct. The only way this gets better is by sheer luck, just like with the original Poch hire. Maybe we will luck into it with our hire. Terrible way to run a club.

Poch wasn’t even his choice, he was Lewis’s.

 

[pedrodelawasp]

What is his record like for developing young players?

I can’t speak in an awful lot of detail about many of Celtic players, but I would say he appears to have improved some of the younger squad members and been canny about how he’s utilised them.

Centre back Stephen Welsh was someone I saw a fair bit of when he was on loan at Morton for 19/20 but seems to have levelled up quite a bit under Postecoglu. He’s also got Carter-Vickers playing very solidly and consistently at the back (I always thought it was a shame he never got a shot at Tottenham). One more defender I believe he has had a hand in developing is Greg Taylor. Although he had already broken in to Scotland squads before Postecoglu took over at Celtic, he’s really started to emerge as a player that can fill the void that Tierney left behind when he moved to Le Arse.

Ange is also blooding youth squad players like Rocco Vata, Bosun Lawal and Ben Summers (all have been playing for the B team in the lowland leagues while also training with the first team, then getting some appearances with the first team also).

 

[gavspur]

I like the thought of Ange, but the fact I keep hearing that his teams aren’t great at defending, with our squad, that’s a worry. I think we could be back at the Ossie days.

Seriously, Levy has put us in a terrible position. I wouldn’t want to come to us if I were a serious manager. He’s been found out, and is far behind the times. Other teams have progressed while we’ve stayed at Levy’s level. The only way he can save this, is by putting a team together and letting them get on with it. Which won’t happen. Such sad times.

 

[robertgoulet]

Poch wasn’t even his choice, he was Lewis’s.

Still luck. If you believe the story that Lewis was told by Kenny Dalglish while on vacation with him and decided that was the move.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Hes not wrong though is he.

I did it. I cancelled my membership. I emailed the club and got them to delete my account and remove all data they held on me after the last manager hunt fiasco.

Then, Conte came in. We started playing good football. I rejoined. Bought the shirts. Went to matches. Did the tours etc.

It's not the winning. It's the club is intrinsically linked to my identity. I am, and always will be, a Spurs fan. That is part of who I am. Nothing will ever or can ever change that.

That's why boycotts and protests won't work. And why, frustratingly, Levy will be proved right. We are a captive market. We do not have a choice. And, he knows it.

I’m sorry but this is nonsense - you can separate being a Tottenham supporter from supporting this current management - there has been and is gross negligence on their part for quite a while now.

You are literally saying that Levy can do exactly what he likes. I want to believe that isn’t correct

How about moving the club to New York or joining a European Super League?

You said it’s not the winning but then you rejoined and did the tours etc when they brought Conte in!

All a bit odd. I know love it blind mate but seriously

 

[T-Bone]

Mate if it were just me hearing it I'd be inclined to agree. I can assure you we are all hearing the same from different sources from varying positions at the club.

I know some fans are in full siege mentality mode, and others just can't believe things could possibly be this bad, but ask yourself are all of us on here plus other forums and elsewhere on the net, basically every single journalist, numerous ex players and managers all wrong on this?

Then ask yourself were we all wrong 2 years ago when we were again all unified in our appraisal of goings on when we ended up appointing Nuno?

Don't forget this isn't just coming from the club either, it's from external sources too.

This is all so depressing, there seems to be litterally no light at the end of the tunnel

 

[Lifelong]

To be clear, that’s the point, I have no info, as does the person who contacted me. None.

But this all sounds like Putin is going to send down Nuclear bombs on us all. Spurs is my life really but this is not the end of the World and we will all be here next year.

Missed out ‘lack of’……..but you get my gist…….hopefully

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

Can't wait for the race to top 10 thread next season.

 

[Lifelong]

Can't wait for the race to top 10 thread next season.

Again, where’s the optimistic rating when you need it…..

 

[Hotspur88]

Mate if it were just me hearing it I'd be inclined to agree. I can assure you we are all hearing the same from different sources from varying positions at the club.

I know some fans are in full siege mentality mode, and others just can't believe things could possibly be this bad, but ask yourself are all of us on here plus other forums and elsewhere on the net, basically every single journalist, numerous ex players and managers all wrong on this?

Then ask yourself were we all wrong 2 years ago when we were again all unified in our appraisal of goings on when we ended up appointing Nuno?

Don't forget this isn't just coming from the club either, it's from external sources too.

We are basically royally fucked! It is an absolute disgrace the position we find ourselves in YET AGAIN! This season has been painful, I've absolutely hated it! And it looks as though we have a few more seasons like that lined up. That is an incredibly sad place to be in!

 

[Misfit]

Pochettino was the biggest 'save face' option from the bloody start and we ignored him!

He would also be a daily walking reminder to DL of his last huge mistake in not properly backing a guy who had proven himself capable of at least making us serious contenders, if not quite winners yet. Yes yes, Ndombele and Lo Celso but the mistake was not getting in a player here and player there to refresh rather than rebuild in the 2 years before it all went fully tits up that summer.

Never going to happen.