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[Russ1201]

Now that we have messed up the Nagelsmann deal (I'm still annoyed) I'm hoping we get a strong DOF who together with Munn can have a positive impact on the board and the culture.

Do you trust Levy to achieve this?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Told just now we are still speaking to various candidates agents etc. We still don't know who we want is the truth of it.

Levy likes Slot others not so keen. Yes we are still doing this, with everyone and their dog having an opinion regardless of how much they understand about the game. It seems just when we are starting to come to a decision, someone else weighs in that really shouldn't have a say in the bloody matter.

Mad. Totally mad. It's bizarre as to who these people are, and why they feel so strongly in their views.

 

[Jenko]

Great point and something that I have had concerns about.

Plenty of people saying get Poch back and the good times but it really isn't as simple as that.

What everyone forgets is that Poch and the players had to go through a process to reach that stage. They had to earn it, lets say.

We saw green shoots but the first year was still a bit of a slog at times. Even the second season we drew 3 of our first 4 and lost the other.

Can you honestly see that patience?

Say, half way through the season and we are 6th/7th. People will be saying that theyd have expected better by that point and I'm certain it would actually bring up painful memories of his last year at the club.

If that happens how long before Poch himself starts to get irritated? He'll be coming from a more entitled position this time so his patience will be shorter.

Whereas Slot, because it's fresh and new, will be given more patience as long as there's some green shoots cause we'd all be curious to see where it goes.

And more importantly, Slot will have the energy and drive to remain patient and not force things

I agree with everything here except your suggestion that Slot will get more time from either Levy or the fans. When it comes to impatience both are rather toxic. A straw way too far when our fans boo'd Emerson and then Sanchez. I'm still annoyed about it because they are harming the club they are supposed to support. We need to change our mindset to being happy with Europa qualification over the next two seasons if we are going to be patient through a whole season without stinking up every match day forum in the process. Our stadium was designed to hold in the noise and allow us to create a cauldron of intimidation. Perhaps it should have been stressed that this intimidation was supposed to be aimed at the OPPOSITION team.

 

[soflapaul]

This board is dysfunctional.

 

[Dakes]

Told just now we are still speaking to various candidates agents etc. We still don't know who we want is the truth of it.

Levy likes Slot others not so keen. Yes we are still doing this, with everyone and their dog having an opinion regardless of how much they understand about the game. It seems just when we are starting to come to a decision, someone else weighs in that really shouldn't have a say in the bloody matter.

Sloths to the Slot

 

[spurs303]

It shows they have absolutely no plan in place.

Perhaps we could get ahead of the rest now,and see what Big Sam is doing for the last six weeks of next season

 

[Albertbarich]

Do you trust Levy to achieve this?

Trust doesn't really come into my thinking.

He is going to or has interviewed people for the role, what I'm hoping for is the one he chooses is charismatic enough to hold his and Munns ear over the board members who should have nothing to do with football.

That right person's main talent maybe telling people what they want to hear so for all I care he could lie his way through the interview as long as once in post he is strong enough to push through a footballing led vision over a money led one.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Mad. Totally mad. It's bizarre as to who these people are, and why they feel so strongly in their views.

In any large organisational structure the directorate will need to be convinced / have some sort of sign off on such a big decision. I’m not saying it’s right in this case but it’s perfectly normal.

 

[felmani26]

The club want the prospective manager to deem Tottenham their first choice yet not prepared to reciprocate instead they'll dither, consult, naval gaze whilst Rome burns.

The lack of a coherent succession plan - both managerial and sporting director - is fucking dereliction of duty!

 

[wrd]

We had a debate the other day about Slot and whether he could do it at this level. I'm not going to claim that I know anything about him, so this isn't to prove he is the right person for the job but I have a question(s) for those against his appointment.

We as a club have ignored certain players in the past because we're unsure of whether they can do it at this level, Kim Min-Jae being the most ridiculous to me but also the likes of Maddison. So is there not an argument to say that when a person is showing immense potential, we could be in danger of missing out and there's a threat of watching them succeed greatly to where they go from easily gettable to unobtainable based on their next move.

So this could apply to De Zubri, Slot, Ange, Gallardo; Does this not concern you that we may miss a significant opportunity because we want the safety of assurances rather than potential reward from risk.

Is it perhaps you don't trust the club to correctly judge that and then the question is, if I've convinced people that the reward is worth the risk, How would we go about best assessing a candidates potential for the Spurs job?

There's a Jack Clarke for every Kim Min-Jae so what's the parameters to correctly assess on a managerial level?

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

Compare this to Paul Barber who recently said he always keeps an updated list of managers he will approach as soon as they lose their current one. It’s really not rocket science.

Yeah that’s proper planning. A club with an identity and clear strategy. Our lot simply make it up as they go along. No wonder the culture at club is a mess.

 

[RJR1949]

Told just now we are still speaking to various candidates agents etc. We still don't know who we want is the truth of it.

Levy likes Slot others not so keen. Yes we are still doing this, with everyone and their dog having an opinion regardless of how much they understand about the game. It seems just when we are starting to come to a decision, someone else weighs in that really shouldn't have a say in the bloody matter.

Deeply depressing.

It reflects the toxic pathology at the club:

1. No vision and no strategy to realise that vision
2. A likely loss of confidence after making 3 bad decisions in a row
3. Nobody with serious football expertise in a decision making role
4. One man (who I suspect has finally come face to face with his ineptitude at running the football side of the club) with the overwhelming decision making power
5. Everyone worried what the overseas owner might want/do

There’s no future for the club until this mess at the heart of the club is resolved. And that means Levy has to step back.

 

[Vulcan10]

All true. It didn't need to be that way, I would have seen Poch's return as he was burnt out and needed time away/new experiences. Come back recharged with some lessons learnt on both sides. But that's an outside looking in opinion without egos involved I guess.
Levy is gambling either way though as if Poch goes to Chelsea and does well and our next fall guy doesn't work out that doesn't reflect well on Levy either! (putting it mildly).

 

[muppetman]

Yeah, much better to sweep it all under the carpet and imagine it's all under control.

I'd say every other thread on the board being overrun with talk about Levy and ENIC would suggest nothing is being swept under the carpet. I guess I'm just a bit bored of the constant "sky is falling" in every single thread.

 

[mil1lion]

Opened a thread for all the Brighton talk

Let's all admire Brighton

Thread for discussing Brighton and the way they are run or the work their current manager is doing

www.spurscommunity.co.uk

 

[muppetman]

Mad. Totally mad. It's bizarre as to who these people are, and why they feel so strongly in their views.

It's bizarre that members of the board whose job it is to run Spurs have strong opinions? I'm not so sure about that. Unless I've misunderstood and Levy is canvassing the opinion of the tea lady, kit boy and cleaning staff?

 

[Tucker]

I'd say every other thread on the board being overrun with talk about Levy and ENIC would suggest nothing is being swept under the carpet. I guess I'm just a bit bored of the constant "sky is falling" in every single thread.

Yup, totally sick of it myself too.

 

[HoltbiusMac]

This is because again we haven’t sorted out our structure to be top down and then delegated effectively. Our board were apparently the only people in the world not to realise that Paratici was a crook and then somehow managed to be surprised he got charged for that and somehow even more bizarrely surprised that he got suspended for that and even failed to get ahead of that suspension being upheld.

Whoever is making decisions at that level is utterly incompetent. We’ve then failed to move quickly and hire a replacement DoF whilst seemingly conducting a parallel search for a manager. I’ve got no problem with the club conducting research and some level of due diligence around potential candidates but we shouldn’t be dismissing any potential manager from our long list until we have the DoF in place. The DoF should have been sounded out before Paratici went and appointed within days not months.

It’s completely bizarre for the board to dismiss Nagelsmann or Pochettino and to allow Kompany to get away when we don’t have the DoF in place. The ability to plan ahead is so poor because we don’t have these structures and continually leave them to Levy’s ego or whatever snake oil merchant has his ear that week.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

In any large organisational structure the directorate will need to be convinced / have some sort of sign off on such a big decision. I’m not saying it’s right in this case but it’s perfectly normal.

Totally fair. I guess what I'm saying is: I would question if there are enough people in those positions with genuine footballing insight/knowledge

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I'd say every other thread on the board being overrun with talk about Levy and ENIC would suggest nothing is being swept under the carpet. I guess I'm just a bit bored of the constant "sky is falling" in every single thread.

The “sky is falling in” the sky is not ‘falling’

Huge difference and extremely important