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Archibald&Crooks

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Had a lot of real world issues to deal with for the last month so not been following this (or football in general) too closely.
What happened with the Kompany links? He was favourite last time I looked and flicking back hasn’t been discussed in here for days.
We've had several favourites since then :D

I think when he signed a new deal it sort of faded away
 

SonicSarr

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Not too bothered about Nagelsmann. I could see that going sour quite quickly.

Having read a lot about Slot and his tactics I think he'd be a good fit for the players we have. A Slot/Mason combo would be a good dynamic and bring a good enthusiasm and feel-good factor back to the club.
 

srups34

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The trouble is Levy could come out and say something and none of you believe it anyways. "PR spin".

I am not saying you are not allowed to want those things, but there is so much anger here. That's my point. One name drops out and all of a sudden IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD.

You all react to negative news in a ridiculous way to me. Any positive news you'll find an angle to make it negative or just are not bothered.

I'm also sick and tired of seeing some being labelled this or that because they say a good thing about Mason (or Levy). It's tiresome. Some have to keep bringing up a Levy fan club. Some have to keep saying you must want Mason over everyone else, because you say one positive thing about him.

I'm just tired of the over the top unnecessary reactions to things on here I guess. People keep saying they're done with the club, but I know you'll be keeping tabs on the game v Vila and the manager/DOF search.

Rant over.
I’m done with your rants 😂😂😂
 

Spurs4CL

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If we appoint a new man at the end of the season.

He will have to perform a full assessment of the squad during preseason , not just based on video clips and stats, but by how they see within the group dynamic, how receptive each player is to his ideas and philosophy. This cannot reasonably be expected to be done in a week or two but across the first month of preseason.

Then that means we will leave all transfer activity, both in and out to the final few weeks of the market and miss the boat on quite a few players that will have already made moves.

This leads me to think they'll just appoint Mason instead because he will already know the players and have an idea of what we need and we can plan for next season immediately.
 

Scott Spur

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Presumably they’ve just seen him come out and fuck off Chelsea and want to not suffer negative press at the hand of another?

Lose lose for the club IMO. Either it’s “embarrassing that he rejected us” or “embarrassing that we’ve had to brief that he’s rejected us or we don’t want him”.
It’s embarrassing that he’s rejected us, but trying to get in first and spin the truth in such a clumsy way is more than embarrassing, it’s an absolute shambles. It makes the club look like complete amateurs, it’s playground stuff.

Do we know what PR experience Donna-Marie Cullen had before joining Spurs? I’m not sure she’s fit and proper to host a WhatsApp chat let alone a Premier League football club, what planet does she live on???

I am so done with this Board, they simply have no idea.
 
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easley91

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I want to know how people straight away assume it'll be Mason, because it won't be Nagelsmann? Pretty sure Slot was the other major candidate and he has a season to finish.
 

THE SPURSBOY

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If we appoint a new man at the end of the season.

He will have to perform a full assessment of the squad during preseason , not just based on video clips and stats, but by how they see within the group dynamic, how receptive each player is to his ideas and philosophy. This cannot reasonably be expected to be done in a week or two but across the first month of preseason.

Then that means we will leave all transfer activity, both in and out to the final few weeks of the market and miss the boat on quite a few players that will have already made moves.

This leads me to think they'll just appoint Mason instead because he will already know the players and have an idea of what we need and we can plan for next season immediately.
And do you think Mason will be choosing the players who he needs or Levy finding the bargains and cheap opportunities that arise The reason JN has apparently turned us down is levy wouldn’t let him have the control he wanted. Levy Might as well be dof and manager
 

Whoami?

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We better off just making Harry player/manager. Levy clearly can't work with any managers with demands. We need to find a manager without much say on matters, no care on who comes/goes and just feels happy to be in a Job at Spurs. Play a bit of attacking football and Levy will be content.
 

sidford

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Course I wanted JN but reality is just like Conte he would be too demanding in terms of standards & backing to be a proper fit with Levy. Only positive here is we're no longer pretending to be a club who wants to get to the next level and actually try and win things. Just being at the top table is enough for Levy and this decision just confirms that.
 

HedgieSpur

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The big criticism of Levy appointing Conte was that Conte clearly had demands that the club could not satisfy. Conte needed certain players, that cost a lot of money and that was pretty clear upfront. Levy appointed him knowing what he needed, and couldn't (for whatever reason) give Conte what was required. Which led to the (fair) question, why the hell appoint a manager like Conte if you can't/won't give him what he needs to succeed?

If the club have contacted Nagelsmann and listened to what he would need and made the decision that they cannot meet his demands and give him what he wants - surely it is better to be upfront and move on to another candidate than appoint him anyway and not give him what he has asked for?

If it's true Nagelsmann is out of the running, it's disappointing. But, I'd rather the club were honest and aligned with whoever we bring in.

I agree with this. Which is why it is even more ridiculous that it’s taken this long. They could have had the initial discussion ages ago and if, as you say, his demands were too much, then could have moved on (without the need to leak to the press)
 

THE SPURSBOY

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It’s again the decision to state we’re not gonna interview him etc that makes us perceived as a joke all over the media again. We have constantly to deal with kanes too good for us, and the Kane has no ambition cause he wants to stay with us. The drive in the media for him to leave to united etc and now our PR team stating this shit were constantly being made a mockery of and were the fans that have to put up with it.
 

HedgieSpur

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Not too bothered about Nagelsmann. I could see that going sour quite quickly.

Having read a lot about Slot and his tactics I think he'd be a good fit for the players we have. A Slot/Mason combo would be a good dynamic and bring a good enthusiasm and feel-good factor back to the club.
So you want the new manager to have the old interim manager as his assistant, a man who has said he wants the job himself?

That doesn’t sound like a recipe for success to me. Slot should bring in his team and not be forced to be encumbered with Mason imo.
 

Yantino

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The big criticism of Levy appointing Conte was that Conte clearly had demands that the club could not satisfy. Conte needed certain players, that cost a lot of money and that was pretty clear upfront. Levy appointed him knowing what he needed, and couldn't (for whatever reason) give Conte what was required. Which led to the (fair) question, why the hell appoint a manager like Conte if you can't/won't give him what he needs to succeed?

If the club have contacted Nagelsmann and listened to what he would need and made the decision that they cannot meet his demands and give him what he wants - surely it is better to be upfront and move on to another candidate than appoint him anyway and not give him what he has asked for?

If it's true Nagelsmann is out of the running, it's disappointing. But, I'd rather the club were honest and aligned with whoever we bring in.
Exactly.
 

HedgieSpur

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It’s again the decision to state we’re not gonna interview him etc that makes us perceived as a joke all over the media again. We have constantly to deal with kanes too good for us, and the Kane has no ambition cause he wants to stay with us. The drive in the media for him to leave to united etc and now our PR team stating this shit were constantly being made a mockery of and were the fans that have to put up with it.

Agreed. So on that basis, what on earth was the club thinking when they decided to put out the leak?

They couldn’t possibly have thought it would go down well, surely? Are they really that out of touch?
 

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The big criticism of Levy appointing Conte was that Conte clearly had demands that the club could not satisfy. Conte needed certain players, that cost a lot of money and that was pretty clear upfront. Levy appointed him knowing what he needed, and couldn't (for whatever reason) give Conte what was required. Which led to the (fair) question, why the hell appoint a manager like Conte if you can't/won't give him what he needs to succeed?

If the club have contacted Nagelsmann and listened to what he would need and made the decision that they cannot meet his demands and give him what he wants - surely it is better to be upfront and move on to another candidate than appoint him anyway and not give him what he has asked for?

If it's true Nagelsmann is out of the running, it's disappointing. But, I'd rather the club were honest and aligned with whoever we bring in.
The mumble coming out of the club is no contact & none planned, so I don’t see how they can know his demands if they’ve not sounded him out. Personally I think that’s bollocks.

I do see your point regarding demands and Conte is a prime example; that relationship was never going to work.
My concern is that the coach has to buy into Levy’s way, not the other way around. This means the man at the top retaining far too much control of football matters, which has been our problem for the past 20 years.

Has Nagelsmann given an honest assessment of the playing staff, said he needs loads out and Levy didn’t like the sound of that so will search for someone to dance to his tune??
 
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