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[chas vs dave]

Wouldn't surprise me as neither CEO appear to have a clue. Ourselves and Chelsea are without question the two most unstable clubs in the league right now.

Utd interviewed ten Hag

Details of Erik ten Hag's Man Utd interview emerge and explain why he won race

Erik ten Hag has been appointed as Manchester United fifth permanent manager since Sir Alex Ferguson on a three year contract after impressing the club's hierarchy during the interview process

www.google.com

Are you telling me that it's not normal practice to at least get a feel for an individual before getting them to be at the heart of your whole sporting operation.

I'd seriously question any one who didn't interview.

Edit:

Brighton the "bastion" of everything right in football interview de zerbi

Brighton CEO gushes over brilliant way Roberto De Zerbi impressed at job interview

The Brighton manager arrived at his interview in London with a detailed pitch ready for the board, which the club’s Chief Executive has detailed.

www.sussexexpress.co.uk

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Can’t find the quote. But it’s really sad that we see ourselves as an Ajax or dortmund again. We should be aiming to be a club above them in terms of power and maturity.
Not saying we don’t need to start a project again. But that’s not a good mentality

It's not being Ajax/Dortmund, it's taking the things they do so well as clubs to the next level using our resources.

Work smarter, create an identity and a model which allows us to consistently compete against the odds with nation backed states. It doesn't mean we don't ever spend money, it doesn't mean we can't sign someone for £50m. It just means we have a broader strategy which includes developing players and a team with a clear identity rather than the short term win it all now, quick fix mentality we've had since Poch left.

Don't focus so much on the selling players for profit, look more at the way they integrate young players, have a consistent vision for style of play, types of coaches, strong recruitment etc.

Simple fact is we are not going to win as regularly or more regularly than the teams owned by entire states. But with the right structure and strategy, we can put ourselves in a position where we consistently challenge them and semi regularly win things, which is certainly good enough for me. It's literally the only consistent way we can challenge.

 

[Styopa]

Can’t find the quote. But it’s really sad that we see ourselves as an Ajax or dortmund again. We should be aiming to be a club above them in terms of power and maturity.
Not saying we don’t need to start a project again. But that’s not a good mentality

Ajax are historically a more successful club than we have ever been. Not just domestically in a weaker league but in terms of European trophies too.

 

[Beefyboy]

Good luck getting permission to speak to some of them as far as a formal interview is concerned. And if it's not a formal approach then what's the point of all of this?

Seriously no one else works like this. They set out the parameters of what they want to achieve and then go for the best fit. They head hunt, they don't spend weeks interviewing potential candidates like it's for a sales rep position because you are likely to piss off the one you really want, as they are sure to be in demand.

Didn't Utd do that with Poch and ETH, and also Chelsea are currently doing that with JN and Enrique. I agree that neither of them seem particularly well run so not great models to follow, but I dont think we are completely on our own in doing it this way?

 

[Trix]

Utd interviewed ten Hag

Details of Erik ten Hag's Man Utd interview emerge and explain why he won race

Erik ten Hag has been appointed as Manchester United fifth permanent manager since Sir Alex Ferguson on a three year contract after impressing the club's hierarchy during the interview process

www.google.com

Are you telling me that it's not normal practice to at least get a feel for an individual before getting them to be at the heart of your whole sporting operation.

I'd seriously question any one who didn't interview.

Of course you sound them out, speak to them and see if they are the right fit. Compiling a list of numerous managers and then interviewing each of them before deciding which one is the best person for the job is something I've never known a top side do before, ever. That's because you are talking about managers that are in demand/have options. All the managers on that list are either in a current position so we'd need to approach their club before formally interviewing. This leaves them in no mans land if they then don't get the gig. Or they are top coaches currently out of work, have managed at the very top level and will pick up a top team sooner or later no problem.

You don't cast a movie and ask Robert De Niro to do a screen test.

 

[felmani26]

Can’t find the quote. But it’s really sad that we see ourselves as an Ajax or dortmund again. We should be aiming to be a club above them in terms of power and maturity.
Not saying we don’t need to start a project again. But that’s not a good mentality

The direct quote was a "different version of Ajax/Dortmund".

This might well entail promoting youth aggressively with a clear remit of how we are to coach from U16's to first team but not being a supposed feeder club to say the Man City's of this world so looking to retain the talent here.

End of the day, those two teams are regularly competing for titles and silverware whilst playing the standard of football we all yearn for - what's the problem in that?

 

[Trix]

Didn't Utd do that with Poch and ETH, and also Chelsea are currently doing that with JN and Enrique. I agree that neither of them seem particularly well run so not great models to follow, but I dont think we are completely on our own in doing it this way?

No.

 

[spurs303]

If Nagelsmann isn't interested in the job, I am okay with not chasing after him. I think we need someone who wants to be a spurs and respects the club, when we have had managers who think they are above us, it feels like it bleeds down to the players and I'm honestly sick of it. I want a manager who wants to be at the club and doesn't see us as a stepping stone.

Agree with everything you say but, the truth is all the top guys will be looking at us and saying no thank you, unless they need a payday and we will be looking at the scraps the big boys don't want.

 

[carpediem991]

Good luck getting permission to speak to some of them as far as a formal interview is concerned. And if it's not a formal approach then what's the point of all of this?

Seriously no one else works like this. They set out the parameters of what they want to achieve and then go for the best fit. They head hunt, they don't spend weeks interviewing potential candidates like it's for a sales rep position because you are likely to piss off the one you really want, as they are sure to be in demand.

From my knowledge in german football its nothing unusual to interview several candidates and go a bit more into detail. Most of the time other clubs give permission if its not a direct rival and it doesnt affect the current season, if there is an open communication.

Think interviews (not over weeks or months) are important to get a feeling if you are on the same page and to present some formalities and habits at the club the new manager needs to know.

 

[zepstar]

I cannot believe compiling a list and interviewing elite managers is a thing. In acting circles, one of the best things about 'making it' quote on quote is that you never have to audition again.

The only way you recruit football managers is at a formica table at 3am at Beaconsfield Services.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

End of the day, those two teams are regularly competing for titles and silverware whilst playing the standard of football we all yearn for - what's the problem in that?

They play in different leagues, where there are fewer teams capable of competing at the top.

If we took an Arsenal approach, and built around a core group of younger players, we could find some success.

But Arsenal have outspent us in the last 3 seasons, so unless we are prepared to pay more for players, we will fall short. In the last 3 years, Arsenal have paid €35M+ for 6 players. Spurs have paid €35M+ for 2 players. (We will presumably pay for 2 more players this summer, in Porro and Kulusevski - but that highlights another difference between Spurs and top teams, we try the loan-with-option approach with most of our “big” deals.)

 

[homer hotspur]

My take on the upcoming interviews next week with the candidates likely to be

JN
MP
AS
AP
BR
A N other = Left-field

I couldn't be bothered to scroll back to see where this came from but, whether you believe such a list exists or not, I find it hard to see the likes of Slot or Ange rocking up at an interview whilst still working at their clubs. I would have thought any listed candidates still with clubs would just be sounded out at this stage.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

No they don't.

I know we're all aboard the Levy is a rotten owner train at the moment but the hyperbole is off the scale and tiresome.
There's a chance, like when we chanced on Poch, things will align and we'll go through a better period. That's pretty much how it goes for most clubs. It's been a bad few years with poor managerial decisions, but the shortlist shows a new direction

 

[chas vs dave]

Of course you sound them out, speak to them and see if they are the right fit. Compiling a list of numerous managers and then interviewing each of them before deciding which one is the best person for the job is something I've never known a top side do before, ever. That's because you are talking about managers that are in demand/have options. All the managers on that list are either in a current position so we'd need to approach their club before formally interviewing. This leaves them in no mans land if they then don't get the gig. Or they are top coaches currently out of work, have managed at the very top level and will pick up a top team sooner or later no problem.

You don't cast a movie and ask Robert De Niro to do a screen test.

If you have 3 candidates, you do a down selection process, based on interviewing candidates.

You can still interview someone who is in employment. It's not difficult to do.

I provided a link where it clearly defined that utd interviewed 3 managers ETH, Poch and Enrique, then selected ETH.

It doesn't sound abnormal.

I get you don't like the way spurs are run, but there has to be some form of governance, in terms of selecting the right person.

 

[carpediem991]

I couldn't be bothered to scroll back to see where this came from but, whether you believe such a list exists or not, I find it hard to see the likes of Slot or Ange rocking up at an interview whilst still working at their clubs. I would have thought any listed candidates still with clubs would just be sounded out at this stage.

Of course they are sounded out. But I don't agree you should hire someone for this important, responsible position without having interviews about details to give everyone the best opportunity to see if its a fit. Therefore clubs are working with too many different structures that you more or less just say, hah I like his style of play, hired.

Managers are not working 24/7 and are available at times too.

 

[homer hotspur]

Of course they are sounded out. But I don't agree you should hire someone for this important, responsible position without having interviews about details to give everyone the best opportunity to see if its a fit. Therefore clubs are working with too many different structures that you more or less just say, hah I like his style of play, hired.

You missed my point about managers in existing roles.

 

[Albertbarich]

It's not being Ajax/Dortmund, it's taking the things they do so well as clubs to the next level using our resources.

Work smarter, create an identity and a model which allows us to consistently compete against the odds with nation backed states. It doesn't mean we don't ever spend money, it doesn't mean we can't sign someone for £50m. It just means we have a broader strategy which includes developing players and a team with a clear identity rather than the short term win it all now, quick fix mentality we've had since Poch left.

Don't focus so much on the selling players for profit, look more at the way they integrate young players, have a consistent vision for style of play, types of coaches, strong recruitment etc.

Simple fact is we are not going to win as regularly or more regularly than the teams owned by entire states. But with the right structure and strategy, we can put ourselves in a position where we consistently challenge them and semi regularly win things, which is certainly good enough for me. It's literally the only consistent way we can challenge.

We don't have one person at the club remotely qualified to replicate that model, infact the DOF they're praying gets off couldn't be any further from that?

I get the consensus of being smarter and maybe to use those as an example is misleading but I'm not seeing any evidence of us being smarter right now.

 

[carpediem991]

You missed my point about managers in existing roles.

Not a difference. Lots of managers, players, business people have interviews while in exisiting roles.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

We don't have one person at the club remotely qualified to replicate that model, infact the DOF they're praying gets off couldn't be any further from that?

I get the consensus of being smarter and maybe to use those as an example is misleading but I'm not seeing any evidence of us being smarter right now.

Oh I don't have much faith in us at the moment, that's just the way I'd implement it.

 

[Spurs 1961]

I can see you might interview managers out of work but suspect those in a job will be sounded out in rather less official ways. Now if it is a big club wanting to get a manager from an obviously smaller club then that may happen but top managers, whose work is out there, will be hired if the chemistry seems Ok and the terms are agreed. I don't see JM or AC lining up outside the directors office for an interview. But I may be wrong!