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Riandor

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On the topic of newer managers, what do you make of Xabi Alonso? Got to say he is really impressing me lately at Leverkusen. The win over Nagelsmamn’s BM was excellent. Obviously he’s still very new and I’m not suggesting we go for him, but he does look extremely promising.
Been very consistent since their defeat to Mainz back in Feb.
The win over Bayern was definitely one where Xabi saw that Bayern could be caught on the counter if Bayern weren't clinical and that was one of those days. Have done well in Europe as well, the schooling from Porto aside. Early days. Little expectation on Leverkusen other than staying in Europe.

The reason I felt Poch worked so well was his time at Southampton, he had learned what he needed to compete in the Prem and brought in the likes of Tobi and had frankly one of the best defences. Yeah Kane kinda landed at his feet which was nice and so to a degree it was lightning in a bottle, but Poch had enough experience to get himself there.

Since then we have been awful in recruitment and have had no plan on how to rebuild or who should do it. We believed Mourinho could do wonders with the squad we had but he failed because actually Poch was right and the squad was still in need of a bad refresh and yeah, Conte was given players but to my mind players who we needed previously. I.e. Richarlison is a player we needed back end of Poch's reign and Conte should have only needed the new top defenders. Like when Klopp went to Liverpool he needed 1 Defender and 1 Keeper. Price was irrelevant, the rest of the squad was there and he saw what was needed.

We will get a new manager and then what? We likely lose Kane, need a new keeper and defenders STILL and won't buy those all at once so we remain several positions behind in the ever revolving circle. Next it will be Son to go and etc etc... Levy screwed the squad when we didn't buy anyone and we have been on catch-up ever since. But I guess we've done that conversation.

The fact remains that unfortunately I almost don't care who the manager will be, because I have lost faith that the board can provide the tools required to get us to the top.
 
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Trix

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Possibly right. We don’t know what his season at Brighton would have been like with his new signings and the platform he had created.
Fair point, although we do know how he's done going into Chelsea and it's piss poor.
 

HedgieSpur

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Slot is the Jol/Poch hybrid this club needs. A guy who plays attacking football and a man who will connect with the fans. Nagelsmann on the other hand is a smug faced arrogant tosser, who whilst talented clearly knows it and would be another of the Spurs are lucky to have me brigade.
"smug faced arrogant tosser".......He's really not at all. I think its simply a false perception imo
 

Ghost Hardware

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Agree with all your choices and good points about each manager. My number one choice would be Nagelsmann followed by Almorin.
I like Gallardo but i wonder if he can pull off the same in Europe espically the EPL. Also the language barrier he probably be my 3rd choice.
My fear though is Levy will go for Potter now, his team play lovely football but that's 2 teams his managed and they struggle to score. I know both teams lacked an out and out goalscorer but you look at Bayern Munich goal total this season without Lewandowsi.
I think it's going to be a long wait till we are put out of our misery snd lots of twists and turns to come.
I really see Potter going to Leicester unless his agent is now on bad terms with them after they sacked Rodgers. I think it would be a perfect fit for both parties. I’d be very interested to see how he does there as I, like you, have many reservations.

Re Gallardo, I actually think the Argentinian league is more comparable in style to the PL then most European leagues so in terms of style I think he’d fit well. As for language he has been learning English precisely because he wants to manage in Europe and understands how important it is. As has been mentioned, Brighton wanted him so that in itself is a pretty good indication of his quality.

Like you say, I’m sure there will be plenty more twists and turns and no manager is perfect. Now Chelsea are on the hunt it actually gives us a little more understanding of the landscape I would think. At least if they get JN we will know now most likely rather than summer. Also now Ancelotti is likely staying at RM at least another season then that puts Poch back on the market one would think.
 

Danny1

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His head looks like a thumb, and his name is Slot which is ironic because I……..

Actually not going to finish that sentence!
 

Timberwolf

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I really see Potter going to Leicester unless his agent is now on bad terms with them after they sacked Rodgers. I think it would be a perfect fit for both parties. I’d be very interested to see how he does there as I, like you, have many reservations.
I think it will come down to Leicester's finances, really. Haven't they been in a bit of a mess and the main reason they didn't sack Rodgers earlier was simply because they could barely afford to pay him off?

Finances aside, Leicester's squad would be a good match for Potter, but if I were him I wouldn't want to risk a relegation on top of the Chelsea embarrassment, so I'd wait until the summer before committing to any bottom half teams. Few dodgy games or unlucky results and anyone 12th or below could go down.

Would be quite funny if Potter ends up at Palace next season and becomes the ultimate pantomime villain for Brighton fans.
 

shelflife_73

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And yet De zerbi has come in and taken Brighton to a whole new level. I'm convinced Brighton is on the whole down to the hierarchy more than the manager and yet De Zerbi has moved them forward very quickly, as will the guy who replaces him at Chelsea.
Agreed, if I were going to take anything from Brighton it would be their player identification and scouting process.
 

TPdYID

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Imo, Potter doesn’t play career roulette with Leicester.

Imagine taking the reins and then they get relegated. That blemish stays on your CV even if you only managed the final 10 games.

He could easily hold out for 6 months and take the first Prem managers job to be sacked in and around October.

You could easily see him taking the West Ham/Leeds job in October.

The Chelsea/Potter debacle does serve as a reminder that reputations stand for nothing in football. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Cruel industry when all is said and done.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Imo, Potter doesn’t play career roulette with Leicester.

Imagine taking the reins and then they get relegated. That blemish stays on your CV even if you only managed the final 10 games.

He could easily hold out for 6 months and take the first Prem managers job to be sacked in and around October.

You could easily see him taking the West Ham/Leeds job in October.

The Chelsea/Potter debacle does serve as a reminder that reputations stand for nothing in football. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Cruel industry when all is said and done.

Agreed – I also think that, whether we want him or not, he'll be put off working at Spurs from his experience at Chelsea. Leeds, West Ham would be very good fits for him. Or even Leicester in the summer if/when they stay up.
 

TPdYID

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Agreed, if I were going to take anything from Brighton it would be their player identification and scouting process.
You see, for me, recruitment is just one of the many moving parts.

It’s the clubs vision which aligns with all departments which is the true sum of its parts.

No good having an unbelievable recruitment team if the players being signed don’t match the managers style of play. It really is a well oiled wheel at Brighton.

Take Spurs for example, Spence on the surface looked like an unbelievable signing and most of us were buzzing we’d got such a talent for a reasonable fee. Fast forward a season and due to our lack of forward planning, we’ve now got 3 RB/RWB costing a total of 90’m and it’s still no clearer who the long term starter will be.

Don’t even pick the Doherty to Athletico scab - how not to do business.
 
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TPdYID

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Agreed – I also think that, whether we want him or not, he'll be put off working at Spurs from his experience at Chelsea. Leeds, West Ham would be very good fits for him. Or even Leicester in the summer if/when they stay up.
Hasn’t he also worked abroad? Did I read Sweden?

Could he fancy a move abroad for a season or two to get his reputation back on track.

Let the negativity pass before coming back to the EPL refreshed.
 

Cel

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You see, for me, recruitment is just one of the moving parts.

It’s the clubs vision which aligns with all departments which is the true sum of its parts.

No good having an unbelievable recruitment team if the players being signed don’t match the managers style of play. It really is a well oiled wheel at Brighton.

Take Spurs for example, Spence on the surface looked like an unbelievable signing and most of us were buzzing we’d got such a talent for a reasonable fee. Fast forward a season and due to our lack of forward planning, we’ve not got 3 RB/RWB costing a total of 90’m and it’s still no clearer who the long term starter will be.

Don’t even pick the Doherty to Athletico scab - how not to do business.
TBF, I think WB isn't a role you have a starter, not if you want to complete over many games, you need the ability to rotate as they cover more ground than the rest of the team.

Spence is one for the future - I don't have the same level of annoyance over him not playing now, or signing him that others do - just that he should have gone straight out on loan. We don't buy up enough young HG talent, and the squad planning needs to be future thinking, not just for the current manager in a world where they all only last max 2 years anywhere.
 

RuskyM

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It's incredibly short-termist to say "de Zerbi's doing better than Potter" because it ignores who laid those foundations in the first place. Yes, Chelsea was a disaster that he didn't handle well, but he's very obviously a good manager. I don't see how you can look at de Zerbi's team doing well (and they are doing well) and ignore that it was Potter himself who left them in 4th.

He's a sign that all that glitters ain't gold. He won't be our manager - Levy's not daft, the optics are too bad - but he'll be fine.
 

spursfan77

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Can't we just take Paul Barber instead then...please....

And tony bloom. A chairman who actually puts his own money in and keeps them afloat. Without that they’re just another club. Or any new owner that’s willing to put their own money where their mouths are.
 

TPdYID

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TBF, I think WB isn't a role you have a starter, not if you want to complete over many games, you need the ability to rotate as they cover more ground than the rest of the team.

Spence is one for the future - I don't have the same level of annoyance over him not playing now, or signing him that others do - just that he should have gone straight out on loan. We don't buy up enough young HG talent, and the squad planning needs to be future thinking, not just for the current manager in a world where they all only last max 2 years anywhere.
I was trying to make the point (badly) that we have holes all over the squad, yet at one point we have 4 right sided defenders who were all signed in the last 3 years, at a cost of circa £100m.

Surely that money is better spent plugging the other obvious holes in the team.
 

dovahkiin

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the first sentence from BEN on POCH sounds like itk..that theres been a change
they had ruled him out at start but think a small chance could be him

my guess would be

Slot
Potter now he has come into play
or small chance of Poch
 
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