Next Manager Watch

[yellowbean]

Nagelsmann now completely distancing himself from us. Assume he’s now on his way to Chelsea then. Levy is fucked.

"Tottenham no option for him at this stage...but will be all over him when Chelsea sack him in a year"

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

I mean he’s fucked more in terms of the optics. He’s ignored reappointing Poch which was the majority favourite because Nagelsmann became available, now he isn’t getting him and Poch is on his way to Real.

Yeah I see what you’re saying but Slot will play attractive attacking football and we have some good younger players here now ready to adapt to that so all will be well for a while.

 

[CanadaSpurs]

I mean he’s fucked more in terms of the optics. He’s ignored reappointing Poch which was the majority favourite because Nagelsmann became available, now he isn’t getting him and Poch is on his way to Real.

You’re making much of this up. From the beginning it never sounded like they were much interested in Poch. If anything, the Nagelsmann firing put a pause on what they were trying to do with candidates who weren’t Poch.

 

[Misfit]

De Zerbi would be the front runner one would think thanks to his prem experience and profile of younger manager but maybe his "I'm not ready" was sincerely meant and he's not heading anywhere this summer.

Slot isn't someone I know anything about or am against in principle. Kinda get the sense that passing/whiffing on ETH stings a little and we might be overcompensating by going in super early on the next thing out of the Netherlands.

I just wish the club knew wtf it actually wanted and therefore knew the guy they wanted. We still seem to be scattergunnung it with lists and internal factions somewhat.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

important to note that De Boer came through Ajax's ranks as a player.

He then came through their ranks as a coach.

He then had players like Vertonghen, Toby, Eriksen and many academy prospects so it was basically a perfect scenario for Ajax.

Despite that, they never went far in Europe.

Ten Hag, totally surpassed that. But I think thats because he WASN'T an Ajax prodigy and had experience from outside of the club but as hos style is very technical he fit very well.

Not only that but I think he elevated Ajax to levels they won't see for some time.

Slot is doing similar at Feyenoord and did the same at AZ.

If he goes on to win 2 trophies this year he will be proving himself of a similar mould.

The one thing I think that’s worth keeping in mind re Slot and league + league cup is where Ajax are as a club currently. Not only did they loose a number of their best players they are also being managed by John Heitinga who was their youth and second team coach until this season. And he only took over mid season after Schreuder was sacked. They are very far away from being peak Ajax and are very much on the rebuild.

Ironically something similar is going on for PSV with van Nistelrooy taking over for this season. He also has only managed PSV’s b team for one season prior to this. Plus they sold Gakpo soand didn’t replace him which was a massive loss coming out of the winter break. He was 9 goals and 14 assists this season.

Im not trying to dismiss Slot’s achievement if he were to win the league with Feyenoord, it would be very impressive. But I would say that the league is weaker and significantly more open this year than last when Feyenoord finished 3rd and 11 points off first. Whilst seeing out the season and winning the league will be a good sign especially if they win the cup in the process, I will personally find their performances in Europa going forward more telling.

 

[T-Bone]

I think its JN or bust for Levy, he cannot afford to miss out on him. Make him the highest paid manager in the world of he has to but he has to get him.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

The one thing I think that’s worth keeping in mined re Slot and league + league cup is where Ajax are as a club currently. Not only did they loose a number of their best players they are also being managed by John Heitinga who was their youth and second team coach until this season. They are very far away from being peak Ajax. They are very much on the rebuild.

Ironically something similar is going on for PSV with van Nistelrooy taking over for this season. He also has only managed PSV’s b team for one season prior to this.

Im not trying to dismiss Slot’s achievement if he were to win the league with Feyenoord, it would be very impressive. But I would say that the league is weaker and significantly more open this year than last when Feyenoord finished 3rd and 11 points off first. Whilst seeing out the season and winning the league will be a good sign especially if they win the cup in the process, I will personally find their performances in Europa going forward more telling.

You fun sponge!!!!

 

[Misfit]

Don’t agree here, Van Gaal was Levy’s first choice when we ended up with Poch.

I really think he’ll strike lucky again with Slot.

I'd settle for that outcome

 

[bubble07]

This is how it's going to play out

If we get in CL then JN will want to come and Levy gets him

If we don't get CL then it will be Slot if he wins league and double/treble. If he doesn't do that then it will be De Zerbi if he can finish the season well with Brighton

There are no other realistic, credible options.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Nagelsmann now completely distancing himself from us. Assume he’s now on his way to Chelsea then. Levy is fucked.

Funny that someone mentioned a few days ago that the press where being briefed about this, ie us distancing ourselves, plus with Slot being mentioned more frequently there may well be some weight to the idea that talks didn’t go as well as we hoped.

 

[y1dk1d]

I disagree.

Let's say Levy is sure the next manger should be Nagelsmann. Then Levy should fly to Munich and do what it takes to sign Nagelsmann. Every man has a price.

The problem is Levy is never sure what the right move should be, and thus waits for an opportunity to present itself.

It's easy to sit back, shrug, and say a manager (or player) does not want to come. It's hard to go out and make that happen.

Exactly, and we seen just that happen with the Conte appointment.

Summer of 2021 when Levy thought he had time, we couldn’t agree a deal with Conte. 5-6 months later after shit had hit the fan, he had it wrapped up in 48 hours

 

[Gspurs11]

The one thing I think that’s worth keeping in mind re Slot and league + league cup is where Ajax are as a club currently. Not only did they loose a number of their best players they are also being managed by John Heitinga who was their youth and second team coach until this season. They are very far away from being peak Ajax. They are very much on the rebuild.

Ironically something similar is going on for PSV with van Nistelrooy taking over for this season. He also has only managed PSV’s b team for one season prior to this.

Im not trying to dismiss Slot’s achievement if he were to win the league with Feyenoord, it would be very impressive. But I would say that the league is weaker and significantly more open this year than last when Feyenoord finished 3rd and 11 points off first. Whilst seeing out the season and winning the league will be a good sign especially if they win the cup in the process, I will personally find their performances in Europa going forward more telling.

Good points but also important to point out Feyenoord sold off a good few key players this summer and were in a pretty comprehensive rebuild of the starting XI at the start of this season.

 

[Goobers]

Reading the above I hadn't actually considered what competitions we are in as being the big draw for us and a new manager honestly.
We are a huge European club in the UK capital with an enormous fan base and seemingly a lot of strong foundation to grow on.
Is there really scenarios where our future potential managers turn us down because we don't have CL ?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

"Tottenham no option for him at this stage...but will be all over him when Chelsea sack him in a year"

Steady on mate, we still need to hire and fire Potter first.

 

[rossdapep]

The one thing I think that’s worth keeping in mind re Slot and league + league cup is where Ajax are as a club currently. Not only did they loose a number of their best players they are also being managed by John Heitinga who was their youth and second team coach until this season. They are very far away from being peak Ajax. They are very much on the rebuild.

Ironically something similar is going on for PSV with van Nistelrooy taking over for this season. He also has only managed PSV’s b team for one season prior to this.

Im not trying to dismiss Slot’s achievement if he were to win the league with Feyenoord, it would be very impressive. But I would say that the league is weaker and significantly more open this year than last when Feyenoord finished 3rd and 11 points off first. Whilst seeing out the season and winning the league will be a good sign especially if they win the cup in the process, I will personally find their performances in Europa going forward more telling.

Not going to dispute most of that, it's a risk.

But.

When Klopp won the title with Dortmund in 2011. Bayern finished 3rd and only got 65 points - a disaster of a campaign.

The following year, Dortmund finished 8 points ahead and Bayern lost 7 games.

Again a disaster.

Yet, no stain on Klopp.

It made him the hot property he is.

I also believe that Liverpool was 100% the best fit for him. A club ge could easily mould in his way, a club ready for him.

Man Utd would not have worked if he'd gone there, im sure of it. Arsenal too.

If Slot blows the title and cups, you could say he may be a good fit in terms of style but not in the Klopp mould.

But if he wins the title AND proves a point against Roma, he immediately becomes a very attractive option because he proves he has substance behind the good football.

Just like Klopp.

 

[yiddopaul]

Levy, again, dicking around. Making poor decisions, like putting Stellini and Mason in charge. Not that they would necessarily do any worse than Conte, rather we are risking losing our targets to other clubs. Because other clubs - the big clubs - behave like big boys. They identify, then they get their man. So I don't really understand what Levy's playing at. IMO i would like Poch. He's a manager that loves our club and would want to be there. He's exactly what we need. He plays the style we crave, he would absolutely get the best from some of our talented, young and criminally underused talent. He would unite the club. Right now, IF reports are to be believed, the noises coming out of the club is that they do not want Poch. We have to be very careful, if and indeed when every top manager rejects us (and rightly so as we are a grave yard for top managers), Poch may very well have moved on. Get this done now, Levy. If Poch would rather take over at the end of the season, then get a pre-contract or such bollocks signed.

 

[N'Obody]

I think Slot could genuinely be a great fit for us. No huge ego, young and upcoming, Great attacking football and we have nothing to lose anymore really.

I don't see why others seem to think it will make a difference if its a bigger name or not. We weren't winning anything anyway, so what difference will it make if we let Slot have a go at it.

I think he could do a job as there won't be high expectations from anyone and therefore less pressure and he could thrive. We just need the feel good factor back and to start over, even if it means growing pains over a season or 2. We just need to stick with him and go for it.

To dare is to do right?

 

[rossdapep]

I think Slot could genuinely be a great fit for us. No huge ego, young and upcoming, Great attacking football and we have nothing to lose anymore really.

I don't see why others seem to think it will make a difference if its a bigger name or not. We weren't winning anything anyway, so what difference will it make if we let Slot have a go at it.

I think he could do a job as there won't be high expectations from anyone and therefore less pressure and he could thrive. We just need the feel good factor back and to start over, even if it means growing pains over a season or 2. We just need to stick with him and go for it.

To dare is to do right?

I do think we'd all benefit from less expectation.

Nagelsmann would be a great fit for me but I do think there'd be loads of expectation.

 

[Johnny J]

I do think we'd all benefit from less expectation.

Nagelsmann would be a great fit for me but I do think there'd be loads of expectation.

Right. Get the foundations right and then maybe we can think about winning stuff.

 

[IamSpurtacus]

Neither had Poch

He got Espanyol to punch above their weight, and took a Saints side flirting with relegation form under Nigel Adkins to their record PL finish.

He coached that team to punch above their weight, with notable wins against City, Chelsea and Liverpool.

He was much more of a known quantity, who showed he could cut it in the PL - much less risky than Slot, who would be better off going to a club like Brighton or Palace before jumping into Spurs

If you think Nagelsmann was at Bayern too soon - as some posters have alluded to - can you honestly say Slot is ready for the PL and Spurs?