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Yantino

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The critical issue is not finishing fourth next season. Not for most fans anyway. Maybe for Levy it is.

Most fans will accept finishing fifth if there is a long term vision and the team are showing signs of playing decent football. Fans will get behind a project as long as they see proper signs of progress and believe the coach is committed to that project.
Agree. This is most likely to be the case if we are going to actually rebuild properly. And most fans with an ounce of common sense will understand this.

we also need to accept that our future probably looks like it won’t have Kane in it, so there will be a period of adjustment for that too, regardless of who is at the helm.
 

YB123

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Dream scenario would've been Spurs bringing in Rangnick for rest of season, with no ego and calling out the negatives of the club, like he did at United. Then moving upstairs with JN as coach.
 

robotsonic

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I don't understand where the red flag is in that article. Sounds like he was being undermined from within the club and the dressing room, tried to redress the balance, but the old guard players have seen him off because it's literally an old boys club over there.
 

allatsea

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The critical issue is not finishing fourth next season. Not for most fans anyway. Maybe for Levy it is.

Most fans will accept finishing fifth if there is a long term vision and the team are showing signs of playing decent football. Fans will get behind a project as long as they see proper signs of progress and believe the coach is committed to that project.
I want to agree with you but I can't having read so much nonsense on SC over the past few months. Not enough supporters are prepared, these days, to be patient. They want everything now!
 

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I was just at Heathrow (Terminal 5) and I saw Julian and Mauricio in the Caviar House & Prunier Seafood Bar. Looked like they had split a lobster and they were in the middle of an intense game of rock, paper, scissors.

Winner got Real…..loser got Spurs.
 

Peterh1980

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I was just at Heathrow (Terminal 5) and I saw Julian and Mauricio in the Caviar House & Prunier Seafood Bar. Looked like they had split a lobster and they were in the middle of an intense game of rock, paper, scissors.

Winner got Real…..loser got Spurs.
And……….. who won?
 

HedgieSpur

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People saying that fans will be up in arms in a year when we finish 6th 7th 8th is rubbish. I firmly believe that is Conte had signed a three year deal at any point in the last year fans would be behind him. The problems have all stemmed from his attitude to the club.

Whoever the new manager is, will be given time now I believe and I think with the right appointment we would be able to see the sun on the horizon

Yeah right. The minute we go on a bad run there will be the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth and the Pochettes and Los Potteristos joining forces to chant their cult heroes respective names during games.
 

Albertbarich

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Why is it easier for Bayern?
Financially we are in a different universe,
Their average season tickets and ticket prices are a fraction of ours.
The German TV money is a fraction of ours.
Their prize money is a fraction of ours.
Their wage bill however is very high considering all of the above.
I presume you mean financially when you say they are happy to write off a hefty chunk of change?
Correct me if I'm wrong

So why is it easier for Bayern?
It's only easier because they are a well run club on and off the pitch who have people in charge who have a plan, a strategy ,a philosophy,an identity.
We have none of the above.
Everything is off the cuff, and why we are where we are in footballing terms, off the pitch we are fantastic, footballing wise we are severely lacking.
Wasn't there a report when the Man City stuff came out that similar to City Bayern also have some very dodgy sponsorship deals ?
 

YB123

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Yeah right. The minute we go on a bad run there will be the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth and the Pochettes and Los Potteristos joining forces to chant their cult heroes respective names during games.

If someone offered me 8th and a cup next season or 4th, absolutely taking the cup.

I got slaughtered for it on here but I thought the constant chanting of Poch's name during and after the Milan game was one of the embarrassing things i've witnessed.
 
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Hotspur33

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If someone offered me 8th and a cup next season or 4th, absolutely taking the cup.

I got slaughtered for it on here but I thought the constant chanting of Poch's name during and after the Milan games was one of the embarrassing things i've witnessed.
I’d take it also, as a one off, then I’d want to be challenging for top 4 again AND trying to win a cup.
 

YB123

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I don't understand where the red flag is in that article. Sounds like he was being undermined from within the club and the dressing room, tried to redress the balance, but the old guard players have seen him off because it's literally an old boys club over there.

Its a nonsense article. He got rid of the goalkeeping coach of over 10 years for whatever reason and Neuer was furious. Neuer the professional club captain decided to go skiing and see his season over and let his teammates down.

Muller obviously backed his best pal and it escalated.

Also to add, it appears Salihamadzic has now managed to belittle Flick and Nagelsmann. Tuchel for the hat trick.
 

chrisd2k

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How exactly was Walker "forced out"?

Poch was alternating between Walker/Trippier and Rose/Davies that season, to keep the players fresh and enable us to compete on four fronts (WB in Poch's system was a very physically demanding position). Walker played over twice as much as Trippier. He may have been unhappy that he wasn't starting every game, but he started a large majority of PL games - even after telling the manager he wants to leave.

He openly told Poch that he intended to leave in the summer - mid-season (April), while we were challenging to win the PL title (we finished 2nd), and with over 2 years left on his contract. I believe he was left out of the team for one or two games immediately after dropping that bombshell (circa April). That was extremely unprofessional from Walker, when he could easily have put the team first and saved that conversation until the summer...then have departed without causing unrest in the middle of a title-race.

Poch's version of events:
“Leaving out a regular always wounds them, creating a rift between them and the coaching staff that can be very difficult to heal. Walker had just played back-to-back games for the national team. Our first match after his return was against Burnley. We played Swansea on the Wednesday and Walker started, Trippier came back into the team to face Watford on the Saturday and was man of the match. Walker came to my office after the Watford game,
'Gaffer, I've been at Tottenham for nine years. I've thought about it and my heart isn't here any more, nor is my head. I've given all I have to give. I wanted to tell you before I tell my agent that I want to leave this summer.'
'Kyle, you have to stay professional, there's a month and a half to go. We're battling for the Premier League and FA Cup. We have to be focused and finish the campaign strongly.'
'OK, gaffer. But it's already decided.'
'Well, that doesn't just depend on you or me. It depends on the club, above all. You've disappointed me because you've decided to tell me that you want to leave when there is a month and bit left in the competition. You could've sucked it up, kept quiet, trained, played and helped the team when not picked... and at the end of the season you could have come and told me.'
I considered it to be an alarming lack of respect for his team-mates and a slap in the face for the club, none of that could be explained to the public at the time.”


Under plenty of other managers (e.g. Fergie), he would never have worn the shirt again.
And on the third day Poch created the press, and it was good.
 

St José Dominguez

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And right there is the flaw in the plan - Conte got us 4th after taking over when we were 9th and a shambles and we’re still 4th at the moment.

God help Nigel if we finish 5th next year

If we come 5th playing good football and a clear progression is being witnessed where we simply need to buy better footballers to finish higher and fans are calling for him to be sacked then those fans are fucking morons.
 
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