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gavspur

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.
Mason until end of season, as widely reported, makes no sense then. It could only be Poch or Tuchel in straight away. I’m not sure either are right tho.
 

cjbyid

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.

I feel like Daniel is determined to appoint any manager that will clash with him at this point. Jose did, conte did and tuchel definitely will at some point
 

Ghost Hardware

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.
I find this completely unsurprising and incredibly shortsighted. Not in regards to getting top 4 but going for PL proven. It doesn’t mean anything these days.

It didn’t help with Conte, didn’t help with Nuno and didn’t help with Jose. On the other hand we supposedly like Di Zerbi who has only just come here and after a few months is wanted by us. How depressingly naive.
 

Reece_Spurs

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Dragon 1 on Coys.


Poch would walk on his hands and knees back to us he wants the job

conte will be gone by the weekend and mason to end of season

board we’re not anticipating what happened on Saturday to happen so basically are not prepared and not decided so anyone who says it’s such and such is lying

Poch is high up the list but club want to consider other candidates, club now accept the rebuild that Poch spoke of in 2019 needs to happen and want a young progressive coach in charge , I do not know why but I am told tuchel is not on the list , the Brighton manager along with Poch one coach in Portugal and one in holland are the main contenders it’s likely to be one of those 4

if the crowd sings Poch name and Kane makes it known He wants him in order to stay I can see Poch getting it but right now it’s far from a sure thing
The fucking irony if this is true...

Only had Poch and 2 elite managers alude to the same thing, 4 years later Levy gets a brain wave.. Fucking hell
 

McFlash

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.
Oh shit, that doesn't bode well for me.
Limits our choices dramatically and adds to the idea that Levy still has no plan to what he's doing, still clutching at straws and desperate for a quick fix.

After the last few appointments, maybe he needs to be brave and take a fucking gamble for once.
 

Trent Crimm

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.

Levy must have a serious sex kink for Chelsea ex coaches.

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YB123

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Just cannot see DL letting Mason take the reigns with Top 4 still a possibility.

I could see a Tuchel getting offered a big fat juicy bonus to join now and get top 4.

Its so weird because Tuchel is the best option from a coaching/managerial perspective but its completely the wrong fit, which im not sure makes sense but I think majority understand what I mean!
 

McFlash

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I could see a Tuchel getting offered a big fat juicy bonus to join now and get top 4.

Its so weird because Tuchel is the best option from a coaching/managerial perspective but its completely the wrong fit, which im not sure makes sense but I think majority understand what I mean!
Yep, Tuchel might possibly be the best candidate going by certain measures but I just can't get excited by the idea of him.
It'll end as a car crash as usual.
 

beats1

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Agree, as long as they don't pick the manager (Arnesen aside):
Comolli - Ramos
Paratichi - Nuno & Conte
Look I will never accept any shade thrown at this man

He is the only manager I saw bring home a trophy and to do it beating Chelsea 2-1 in the final and arsenal 5-1 in the semi's as well, the guy is a legend in my eyes
 

JCRD

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I could see a Tuchel getting offered a big fat juicy bonus to join now and get top 4.

Its so weird because Tuchel is the best option from a coaching/managerial perspective but its completely the wrong fit, which im not sure makes sense but I think majority understand what I mean!

I really do like Tuchel, we will definitely have a short term fix with him but I just fear what would happen after. With Poch I think we would still have a good chance with top four and then a rebuild. He would automatically lift the club.
 

jolsnogross

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Completely disagree. This is very old fashioned thinking and doesn't reflect how these multi-billion pound enterprises need to operate imo . If done properly, the DoF sets the Philosophy that is aligned to a set of Guiding Principles which in turn drive the strategy. This strategy is enacted across the whole of the club by virtue of a task based plan. The key thing here is alignment....alignment on formation, nutrition, performance management, scouting...everything.

The skill set required for the above is different than being a manager/coach imo. Moreover, managers of top clubs simply do not have the capacity (nor usually the capability) to be able to do it.

What we musn't do is sacrifice long term sustainability just because we like a particular manager......we've done that far too often recently and it hasn't been a success. Any manager who wont work with a DoF is not/should not be a good fit for us and shouldn't be considered for the job
Fair enough. I disagree. "If done properly" is doing a lot of work here. A club-wide health department, scouting department etc can exist without a DoF and function very well. In fact, they remain when DoF's go. These things need leadership, but a DoF role doesn't have to be the position to provide it. The bigger issue is who reports to whom. In most cases, there are people in the background, including DoFs, who contirbute to on-field success. But nobody is more important than the manager in that respect, who is the person a DoF should be reporting to and not the other way around.

Ultimately the DoF, and sometimes the role itself, get's binned if performance isn't up to scratch. I suspect Paratici gets one more bite at the managerial merry-go-round before biting the bullet himself. He's had Nuno and Conte. If he's calling the shots, we'll have Tuchel or someone of that ilk next (=consistency of approach). And if that fails, the consistency that the DoF provided will be a key part of why it failed. Likewise, if it succeeds, the DoF will deserve credit for seeing the approach through turbulent times and following through on the approach. But it'll be the new manager that delivered success, not the DoF.
 

YB123

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I really do like Tuchel, we will definitely have a short term fix with him but I just fear what would happen after. With Poch I think we would still have a good chance with top four and then a rebuild. He would automatically lift the club.

The more I read up on Amorim and watching them vs Gooners last week, the more and more he impresses me. Came in with Braga and Sporting both on their knees and created something special at such a young age.

Takes cup comps extremely seriously aswell which is now key for me.

Think a giant club will be taking him very soon.
 

Clockspur

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For a anyone care who the new manager is? Daniel Levy is picking so you know it will be the wrong choice.

mid Levy fell into a barrel full of tits he would come up sucking his own thumb
 

Hotspur88

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.
Glad you're now saying Tuchel is in the running as I remember when I first mentioned he was near the top of our list, you said you didn't think he was. I've consistently been given two names, that doesn't mean there aren't others as of course there will be, but Tuchel and Enrique are the only names that have been consistently said to me.

Re what Dragon has said re people lying if they think they know who the next manager will be or what the plan is, unless I've missed something, I don't believe anybody has committed to saying who the next manager is or what the plan is.
 

Joely

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Levy wants PL proven everyone, as things are right now. He is having nightmares not making Top 4. Touchel is definitely in the There.

This is what will determine his decision imo. For him, the thought of missing out on CL and the extra revenue that comes with it must be pretty sickening. It's the here and now that is important to him. I didn't think Tuchel was likely at all to be honest but been thinking about it today and beginning to see why Levy may lean towards him. Experience of the EPL, available, walked into Chelsea when they were struggling and turned it around pretty quickly and won the CL with them. We all know it wouldn't last but Levy will be fine looking for someone else after roughly 2 seasons.

Not saying he'll get the job but my suspicion is he may be more high up the list than a lot of people think. Whether Tuchel is open to the job, who knows. May want to sit tight and see what bigger opportunities arise in the summer.

Never say never, but not convinced Levy is going to pay up for the likes of De Zerbi or Amorim when the likes of Poch, Tuchel and even Enrique are available. Probably thinking why pay compensation when 3 managers who've coached at a higher level are out of work. In his eyes, probably can't make an argument that under De Zerbi or Amorim we are more likely to achieve top 4 than with Poch/Tuchel/Enrique.

With the way we operate, think a younger up and coming manager is more suited to the role but think the temptation to bring in one of 3 guys who've managed at a higher level and not have to pay compensation will be too great for Levy
 

spurs9

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Look I will never accept any shade thrown at this man

He is the only manager I saw bring home a trophy and to do it beating Chelsea 2-1 in the final and arsenal 5-1 in the semi's as well, the guy is a legend in my eyes
Fair play those 2 games were amazing (though it was Arsenal's reserves), however 10 wins in 36 games in the league was shocking, especially with a team that had the Berbatov and Keane partnership and Woodgate (and occasionally King) at CB.
 
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