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GetSpurredOn

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When there are the likes of Tuchel, Poch, Gallardo and Enrique all without clubs, I just fail to see Levy willing to buy someone out of a contract.
De Zerbi would tick the boxes from a couple of points, shift away from negative football, already knows the league, Paratici’s leaning towards his Serie A knowledge (Conte, Fonseca, Gattuso were on his previous hitlist). But from what I read recently, his release fee would be £11.5m, when you think of also covering Conte’s wage till the end of the season, I can’t see Levy stumping up.
Viera is now available……

I still think it’ll be Enrique, Poch or Tuchel, in that order of preference for the club, i it’s can’t see them going outside the box on Gallardo, despite him possibly being the most interesting appointment.
 

RuskyM

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Can’t say i watch a lot of Liga Nos but Amorim continuing to do well after losing Nunez, Palhinha and Porro speaks volumes.
 

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When there are the likes of Tuchel, Poch, Gallardo and Enrique all without clubs, I just fail to see Levy willing to buy someone out of a contract.
De Zerbi would tick the boxes from a couple of points, shift away from negative football, already knows the league, Paratici’s leaning towards his Serie A knowledge (Conte, Fonseca, Gattuso were on his previous hitlist). But from what I read recently, his release fee would be £11.5m, when you think of also covering Conte’s wage till the end of the season, I can’t see Levy stumping up.
Viera is now available……

I still think it’ll be Enrique, Poch or Tuchel, in that order of preference for the club, i it’s can’t see them going outside the box on Gallardo, despite him possibly being the most interesting appointment.
The one thing I can never get my head around is why clubs are wary of paying to get their preferred choice of Manager.

The manager is such a key role. When you think about the price of players paying £15/20m to get your preferred manager is a no-brainer surely?
 

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The one thing I can never get my head around is why clubs are wary of paying to get their preferred choice of Manager.

The manager is such a key role. When you think about the price of players paying £15/20m to get your preferred manager is a no-brainer surely?
Only need to look back at the farce that was Nuno's appointment to see that cost cutting is everything to Daniel Levy.
 

easley91

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Surely if we've decided on someone now that gives them plenty of time to learn English before starting in the summer. Not bothered if they can't do it for press conferences, so long as they communicate well enough with the players.
 

GetSpurredOn

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The one thing I can never get my head around is why clubs are wary of paying to get their preferred choice of Manager.

The manager is such a key role. When you think about the price of players paying £15/20m to get your preferred manager is a no-brainer surely?

I completely agree, the manager and coaching/support staff have so much impact on performance, why would you not apply the same level of resource.
 

GetSpurredOn

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I’m wondering if the timing of us having made a decision, could this be linked to the upcoming international window being used to make the change now?
I do think things have gone stale now, if everyone within the club truly knows Conte is off, have they all switched off already. A new manager could give us that short term boost of freshness to get back on track, whilst also giving them time to asses the state of the squad ahead of the summer and get planning changes, rather than waiting till pre season.
 

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Whoever it is i just hope that they actually want to be here, give a shit about the medium term future of the club i.e. willing to give some youth players a chance and try and play decent football.
My standards have dropped so much over last 4 years thanks to Levy's mess of management.
Whether that's Enrique, amorim, Poch etc I actually don't really care. As long as they don't shit on the club every chance they get then I'll welcome them with open arms
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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He does with a more front foot approach, he’s more attacking than Conte but not an attacking coach. He does coach and bring players through, develop them..

Yeah his Sporting team definitely presses more than Conte’s team.

I definitely think he would be the smoothest transition from Conte. He plays 3-4-3, is a big cuddly personality like Poch, and loves developing youth; his Sporting team get pillaged for their best players each season and he still has them challenging for trophies.

I’m not sure if our senior players wll be enamoured by a younger coach but he seems like a good fit for the club.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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I’m wondering if the timing of us having made a decision, could this be linked to the upcoming international window being used to make the change now?
I do think things have gone stale now, if everyone within the club truly knows Conte is off, have they all switched off already. A new manager could give us that short term boost of freshness to get back on track, whilst also giving them time to asses the state of the squad ahead of the summer and get planning changes, rather than waiting till pre season.
Making a change now makes no sense.

First, you would be setting up a new manager for failure, with almost no time to implement their style on the current team. The international break is a particularly bad time given that most players will be away for most of the break.

Second, we are fighting for 4th, not staving off relegation. Conte, and continuity gives us the best chance of Top-4.

Just because the club have identified a target does not mean that the target is either interested in Spurs, nor that they are available immediately.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Look at it from a shareholders POV. They know what they are getting with Poch. Even more so now, since they sacked him.

- They know he’ll use “club signings”, get a tune out of players that aren’t the best.

- He managed to get us Top 4 on a shoestring.

- Got us into finals and semifinals.

- Fan favourite on a free.

He is the safe option. As soon as he gets moody and wants unrealistic (to them) signings, they know the game is up and to move onto the next coach without dithering about.

Right now ENIC will want the fans onside, it makes their life that little easier, he’s available and clearly wants the job and he knows what he’s walking into. He is the safe bet.
The first point you make re club signings. Just because he did in the past doesn’t mean he will be willing to come back and do that now. The reason we went over a year without buying anyone is supposedly because he only wanted a select few players and not the ones Levy was offering. I would assume if he came back it would only be on his terms which may well not be so agreeable to Levy and the board.

Anyway, If the talk of Poch being top choice for Perez this summer then I just don’t see him coming back here now. As much as he may feel he has unfinished business here I don't see him turning down Madrid this summer if they really are interested. Also i can see the board being nervous not least because there are still players here who failed him last time. I don't think its necessarily the obvious choice at this point.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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When there are the likes of Tuchel, Poch, Gallardo and Enrique all without clubs, I just fail to see Levy willing to buy someone out of a contract.
De Zerbi would tick the boxes from a couple of points, shift away from negative football, already knows the league, Paratici’s leaning towards his Serie A knowledge (Conte, Fonseca, Gattuso were on his previous hitlist). But from what I read recently, his release fee would be £11.5m, when you think of also covering Conte’s wage till the end of the season, I can’t see Levy stumping up.
Viera is now available……

I still think it’ll be Enrique, Poch or Tuchel, in that order of preference for the club, i it’s can’t see them going outside the box on Gallardo, despite him possibly being the most interesting appointment.
Fonseca wasn’t on Paratici’s list, he was Levy and Hitchens choice and Paratici pulled the plug on it.
 

Timberwolf

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Can’t say i watch a lot of Liga Nos but Amorim continuing to do well after losing Nunez, Palhinha and Porro speaks volumes.
Yeah I think he would be quite a shrewd choice, but perhaps a bit of a hard sell to the fans as he's neither a big name like Poch/Enrique, nor renowned for exciting attacking football like De Zerbi.

He's having a tougher time domestically this season, but winning Sporting their first title in, what, 20 years(?) is no mean feat, and I think our squad is much more naturally suited to his style than some of the other potential appointments.

I don't think he's the most exciting appointment but he's someone I can see staying at the club and growing us over a longer period whereas I suspect Enrique or Poch would be gone within 2-3 years and the cycle would continue.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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If we want to build something and play the right way and develop players and bring positivity back I’d lean towards De Zerbi or Kompany.

If we want romance and know what we are getting then Poch.

If we want to go a little different but decent manager and football should be better than L.Enrique but will he build something with us? The longest he was at at club was 2 years at Barca, I’m not sure he’s the right fit for us tbh.
 

Albertbarich

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I love a nice rating but what's this forum for if not for being honest and in my case talking nonsense?

So here goes.

In a totally non reactionary way after watching the Ryan mason interview how about we bring Tuchel in with Mason under him in a similar role. It might only last two years but u that point Ryan will then have enough experience under world class coaches to take over.
 

Ghost Hardware

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When there are the likes of Tuchel, Poch, Gallardo and Enrique all without clubs, I just fail to see Levy willing to buy someone out of a contract.
De Zerbi would tick the boxes from a couple of points, shift away from negative football, already knows the league, Paratici’s leaning towards his Serie A knowledge (Conte, Fonseca, Gattuso were on his previous hitlist). But from what I read recently, his release fee would be £11.5m, when you think of also covering Conte’s wage till the end of the season, I can’t see Levy stumping up.
Viera is now available……

I still think it’ll be Enrique, Poch or Tuchel, in that order of preference for the club, i it’s can’t see them going outside the box on Gallardo, despite him possibly being the most interesting appointment.
That is a good point re pay out, and one would also assume that Brighton really wont want to loose him and would try hard to convince him to stay if we came in for him. I could however see the fact he now has PL experience swaying Levy tho, I really get the feeling he's not entirely comfortable with the idea of going for someone who hasn't had PL experience. That point alone may make him stump up the cash. Personally as good as he's looking now I think even if he was free I wouldn't see him as the top choice tho and, as I said previously, I don't think we should be looking at his time at Brighton as a barometer of his suitability for us .

Im not sure I can see Tuchel being an option, I can see Levy being concerned about his brisk manner and Poch I feel like the board could be split on his appointment plus i think he will be at Real come next season. Enrique I can certainly see Levy getting big eye's for especially if Paratici is keen, the only question for Levy will be the lack of PL experience which is why I feel like he might go for Di Zerbi first. Gallardo is the dream but I don't believe Levy has the vision for that appointment even if he was/is on the shortlist, is free and by far best fits what we need.
 
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Jaddas

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Can't say I'm sold on Enrique tbh. Barca aside (with Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Saurez, Busquets etc), he hasn't pulled up any trees and didn't do great at the world cup. Feels like another "big name," all be it one who plays more attacking football.

Would rather one of Gallardo, De Zebri, Amorim, though the latter 2 would involve compensation which will probably put Levy off.
 
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