Next Manager Watch

[Pekoni]

Tuchel is a good coach and it’d be fun to see him calling Levy out like Conte is doing right now.

 

[Timberwolf]

Tuchel and Poch would both be decent short term but would both implode before too long. Tuchel because he's Tuchel and Poch because of the baggage and expectations. I think we'd be back to square one within 18 months - 2 years if we bring in either.

Risky, but I think Postecoglou would be a fun, progressive appointment. Seems like a top bloke too.

The Sporting guy, Amorim, also makes sense from a squad perspective as he plays with a back 3 but don't know a huge amount about him.

Frank would be a safe pair of hands. Very likeable and can play with a back 3, but his style of play at Brentford is quite direct. Would he adapt that at Spurs or would we be seeing a lot of long balls?

Gallardo would be a sexy, unknown pick - very high risk/reward - that could explode in our faces.

Overall I'm more keen to bring in more of an up-and-comer who plays nice football rather than a proven winner with high demands like Tuchel, as that clearly doesn't seem to fit with our model (or lack of model).

 

[Metalhead]

Tuchel is a better manager than Conte in 2023. His 5back at Chelsea was elite at sustaining pressure (via a high press) which is what we fail to do under Conte. He's a top 5 coach in the world. This reaction is amusing, we literally couldn't appoint a better manager. I have concerns about him in the transfer market but as far as tacticians go he is absolutely one of the best. Plus, just because he managed Chelsea doesn't mean he couldn't oversee a rebuild with us. And yes Enic blah blah but he's still the best possible coach we could appoint.

The problem is that ENIC isn't a side issue - they are an intrinsic part of whatever happens with whoever we appoint.

 

[synththfc]

The one positive with Tuchel is he’ll implement a pressing structure. He’s always been good at that and has done it wherever he’s gone.

This way, when he inevitably falls out with Levy in March 2024, the next manager will have players who know how and when to press.

 

[yido16]

We need to take a leaf out of Brightons owenership. How they appointed Roberto De Zerbi , who was to an extent an unknown, but his philosophy mirrors Guardiola's where based on possession, to have the the 2nd most possession in 2019 only behind Conte's Milan for little old Sassuolo, is quite incredible, as most Italian teams play based on possession. I bet Levy wouldn't have a clue about this guy, but from what we have seen at Brighton, he has been impressive. These are the kind of coaches we should be going out to see, young, playing great football and their philosophy matching spurs - like when we got Poch

 

[Metalhead]

Tuchel and Poch would both be decent short term but would both implode before too long. Tuchel because he's Tuchel and Poch because of the baggage and expectations. I think we'd be back to square one within 18 months - 2 years if we bring in either.

Risky, but I think Postecoglou would be a fun, progressive appointment. Seems like a top bloke too.

The Sporting guy, Amorim, also makes sense from a squad perspective as he plays with a back 3 but don't know a huge amount about him.

Frank would be a safe pair of hands. Very likeable and can play with a back 3, but his style of play at Brentford is quite direct. Would he adapt that at Spurs or would we be seeing a lot of long balls?

Gallardo would be a sexy, unknown pick - very high risk/reward - that could explode in our faces.

Overall I'm more keen to bring in more of an up-and-comer who plays nice football rather than a proven winner with high demands like Tuchel, as that clearly doesn't seem to fit with our model (or lack of model).

Trouble is that if we go for a modest project coach, people are likely to think that we are almost going backwards and reverting to our pre-new stadium strategy.

 

[Timberwolf]

Trouble is that if we go for a modest project coach, people are likely to think that we are almost going backwards and reverting to our pre-new stadium strategy.

Well I think whoever the new manager is, they will get a lot more investment than Poch did during the stadium-building years so maybe going back to a more modest managerial appointment but with some cash to back it up isn't a bad thing? That's kind of what Arsenal did: picked an upcoming manager they believed him and then backed him in the market.

In previous years there was a big more pressure to bring in a big name manager to keep Kane on side but with him all but gone I feel that's less of a concern.

Even if we brought in Tuchel, got top 4 and won the CL, I'm not convinced Kane would sign a new deal tbh.

 

[dricha1]

Its got to the point where if Tuchel joined and he got more broken promises and fell out with Levy, he'd have nobody else to blame but himself

Pretty sure we all said that when Conte joined….

i want us to back Conte but isn’t Tuchal a Spurs fan?

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

The one positive with Tuchel is he’ll implement a pressing structure. He’s always been good at that and has done it wherever he’s gone.

This way, when he inevitably falls out with Levy in March 2024, the next manager will have players who know how and when to press.

Only for Levy to then appoint a manager that plays defensive, counter attacking football....

 

[therealGlenn]

Tuchel is a better manager than Conte in 2023. His 5back at Chelsea was elite at sustaining pressure (via a high press) which is what we fail to do under Conte. He's a top 5 coach in the world. This reaction is amusing, we literally couldn't appoint a better manager. I have concerns about him in the transfer market but as far as tacticians go he is absolutely one of the best. Plus, just because he managed Chelsea doesn't mean he couldn't oversee a rebuild with us. And yes Enic blah blah but he's still the best possible coach we could appoint.

so what you are saying is that Tuchel could get success with the current quad? Daniel?

 

[yojambo]

Tuchel is a very good coach but this reeks of Levy being an opportunist rather than having a well thought out plan.

From a distance it looks like this is the 4th time Levy is trying to emulate Chelsea's success without providing the coach the same resources that Chelsea have.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

so what you are saying is that Tuchel could get success with the current quad? Daniel?

Well he got fired shortly after Chelsea spent 278 mil last summer so maybe he’d be keen to go back to his BVB and Mainz days of low spend transfer windows.

 

[Dakes]

Its got to the point where if Tuchel joined and he got more broken promises and fell out with Levy, he'd have nobody else to blame but himself

That's what we said pre-Conte

 

[GutBucket]

Tuchel is a very good coach but this reeks of Levy being an opportunist rather than having a well thought out plan.

From a distance it looks like this is the 4th time Levy is trying to emulate Chelsea's success without providing the coach the same resources that Chelsea have.

If Kane is leaving them hiring a coach who does best without a true striker would be planning for future to be fair. Don't know a coach who could handle it better, maybe Potter or De Zerbi since they are/were dealing with Welbeck in attack. We are much less attractive without Kane for any coach though, and many of them would want their players and wouldn't trust Paratici or Levy.

Once Boehly sacked Cech and woman whose name I can't remember, and started buying his players it was obvious that Tuchel wouldn't last. It's hard to find someone good enough, who can handle Son's regression, Kane leaving, who will like Paratici and Levy, want to promote youngsters and get top 4/win a trophy. Conte would tick a lot of boxes if he wasn't here.

 

[Freddie]

I'm willing to put the whole Nuno debacle aside, and I guess Fab appointed Conte becuase we couldn't pass up the opportunity, but the point of having him is to provide continuity and some kind of footballing philosophy. We shouldn't look for someone who plays a back 3 just because we have those players, we need to appoint someone who matches with our blueprint for the future. So while the poll is interesting for discussion I'd rather the next manager isn't just about the best that we can get again. This way if (when) we do part ways with our next guy it doesn't cause as much turmoil as it usually does.

For me I'd love to get back to a a back 4 and some fast, fluid, passing football (less keen on pressing but I don't hate that either). Make things fun again. Tottenham used to stand for attractive football once. Tuchel is a massive no for me.

 

[Cochraam]

I really don't understand the idea of Tuchel, although I will be the first to admit I haven't followed him closely. It feels essentially like the Conte appointment - a manager with a sterling reputation, past success winning, but with a well-known combustibility who falls out with owners quickly. I get that he would likely be more tactically flexible and maybe more "modern" in his approach, but appointing him has "gone in 12-18 months" written all over it, IMO. Also, I remember lots of complaints from his time at Chelsea that the football was boring, lifeless, and too pragmatic, so I don't have a ton of hope that he would be the guy to get us playing exciting front-foot football. But anyway, I'm still hoping we back Conte, but maybe that ship is in the process of sailing.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Tuchel is a better manager than Conte in 2023. His 5back at Chelsea was elite at sustaining pressure (via a high press) which is what we fail to do under Conte. He's a top 5 coach in the world. This reaction is amusing, we literally couldn't appoint a better manager. I have concerns about him in the transfer market but as far as tacticians go he is absolutely one of the best. Plus, just because he managed Chelsea doesn't mean he couldn't oversee a rebuild with us. And yes Enic blah blah but he's still the best possible coach we could appoint.

Think this is very harsh reasoning to imply that Tuchel is a better manager than Conte.

Yes, Tuchel’s back 5 was elite but it’s pretty unfair to label it all down to coaching.

To compare, Tuchel had the pleasure of coaching a back 5 of Chilwell/ Rudiger, T. Silva, Azpillicueta/ R. James. With a prime Kante covering in front of them.

Conte on the other hand has had Sessegnon/ Davies, Dier, Romero/ Royal.

The difference in quality is monstrous and can’t be held against Conte’s coaching imo.

 

[H-SF]

Think this is very harsh reasoning to imply that Tuchel is a better manager than Conte.

Yes, Tuchel’s back 5 was elite but it’s pretty unfair to label it all down to coaching.

To compare, Tuchel had the pleasure of coaching a back 5 of Chilwell/ Rudiger, T. Silva, Azpillicueta/ R. James. With a prime Kante covering in front of them.

Conte on the other hand has had Sessegnon/ Davies, Dier, Romero/ Royal.

The difference in quality is monstrous and can’t be held against Conte’s coaching imo.

I’m not talking about quality, it’s the structure. Tuchel’s wing backs are always very aggressive and back up the press whereas Conte’s don’t because the latter chooses a more passive approach. Tuchel’s block is typically higher than Conte’s. It wins the ball back higher up and sustains pressure in the opposing half. This is structural.

 

[synththfc]

I’m not talking about quality, it’s the structure. Tuchel’s wing backs are always very aggressive and back up the press whereas Conte’s don’t because the latter chooses a more passive approach. Tuchel’s block is typically higher than Conte’s. It wins the ball back higher up and sustains pressure in the opposing half. This is structural.

This is the reason Tuchel was able to completely dominate us with Conte in charge as well, despite our last gasp equalizer in the last match

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

I’m not talking about quality, it’s the structure. Tuchel’s wing backs are always very aggressive and back up the press whereas Conte’s don’t because the latter chooses a more passive approach. Tuchel’s block is typically higher than Conte’s. It wins the ball back higher up and sustains pressure in the opposing half. This is structural.

I definitely see where your coming from, because it’s mostly what we’ve seen from Conte here. But I’d argue that the deeper structure is a result of our worse personnel.

These are quotes made just this week actually by Conte, explaining what I’m saying.


“The intensity of the game it depends also on the opponent. In the first half [on Sunday] we started to press high, but sometimes you find a good opponent. We work to overcome the pressure.

You have to know very well that when you press high, you leave a lot of space at the back. If you a player like Saka, Martinelli or Mahrez, Foden or Grealish or Haaland, then you risk to concede a goal very high. Then you also have to consider the characteristics of your players, of your defenders.

If we can stay very high and depend high with 50m behind us or it's better for the characteristics of the players to stay a bit lower to cover more space and don't be stupid to be so open and give the opportunity to your opponent to kill you.”