Next Manager Watch

[Tonio]

Yes it could be. But at least give the person a chance either way, no?

In what other profession would you be “given a chance”? he’s under qualified (my opinion). He’s CV is based on nothing more than the minimum expected season in season out in what’s let’s be honest here, league 1 standard surroundings. Any Celtic manager that has managed that illustrious feat in your opinion would have been an ideal candidate in the past? I’d rather Graham Potter, at least he has Premier league experience.

 

[spursfan77]

That's the fans' problem.

We need to invest in one vision now and give it time to work. Fans were hounding Arsenal to drop Arteta, Chelsea on Potter (successfully), even Liverpool with Klopp during the early period.

Fans don't want him? Tough, get used to it, this is the direction we're going in. Players don't want him? Sell them. Not sure how many times we can keep doing this roundabout. And this applies to Ange, Enrique or Graham Potter.

Unfortunately that’s not how it works in the real world. Not at THFC anyway where there’s a fanbase who have paid thousands of pounds to watch games and where a squad that’s been assembled that has international captains and contains World Cup winners. The knives will be out from day one. This isn’t the club that appointed Poch anymore. The reaction online everywhere is worse than when we appointed Nuno. He won’t stand a chance.

 

[RobjDerby]

Steven Gerrard won the SPL with Rangers

 

[yankspurs]

How?

I know it's the in-thing to be angry first and decide why later, but how does he "go against everything the club said it wanted"?

The club wants a young, progressive manager for a long term rebuilt project. It is looking to appoint a 57 year old journeyman whose best job was in a league not even on the Championship level. It’s not a good fit whatsoever. The last time we said what we wanted, who did we hire? The most pragmatic coach we could find & forced him to play a system he comfortable with because of backlash against the appointment. Just smacks of “back here again in the fall.”

 

[mil1lion]

I would still go all out for Nagelsmann and let him choose the DOF. However, assuming that is out of the question then out of the remaining options I really don’t get the huge reservations with Ange.

Tottenham as we are right now needs a big character and someone who is going to breathe positivity into every area of the club.

His age is irrelevant and so, imo, is the number of titles he has won and experience in England. Enrique, Slot and pretty much every other candidate on that list is a risk for the same reasons.

We need to fix the culture of the club, we need positivity and we need someone who will get us on the front foot. If we can achieve these things then I honestly don’t care who the manager is.

Also, see the Pochettino thread before we got him in. There were a lot of the same comments about him that we’re seeing in here about Ange.

The big difference really is that Poch was already in the league and a lot younger. Ange is a lot older and I think a lot of fans would feel that type of manager should cut his teeth at a smaller PL club first. I'm on the fence about him but he could well be our next Redknapp instead of Poch 2.0.

Also the main issue we have is that during this search there have been Poch, Tuchel and Nagelsmann available so the bar was set high early on. To now be looking at Ange is a bit of a come down. Even Slot was really but seemed the more exciting because he's a young manager with an exciting style. It's a bit like our transfers where we go from option a down to about d.

 

[spursfan77]

He was Brighton's #1 choice post-Potter. He was considered good enough for what everyone keeps saying is the best-run club in the league.

Theres lots of reports de Zerbi was always first choice. Barber said as much last week too And when he was appointed. Here it is from the horse’s mouth.

 

[LannerSpurs]

It's started

Guarantee you Owen is a virgin,

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Steven Gerrard won the SPL with Rangers

Cool.

Javier Gonzalez Mendikote won Crufts best in show with Orca, a Lagotta Romagnolo.

 

[easley91]

In what other profession would you be “given a chance”? he’s under qualified (my opinion). He’s CV is based on nothing more than the minimum expected season in season out in what’s let’s be honest here, league 1 standard surroundings. Any Celtic manager that has managed that illustrious feat in your opinion would have been an ideal candidate in the past? I’d rather Graham Potter, at least he has Premier league experience.

If he is hired then Levy is giving him a chance, but I am on about the fans once someone is hired into the manager's role. This fanbase deem people not good enough. You could be underqualified but willing to learn and work with those around you. If given a chance you could prove to be successful and prove all the doubters wrong.

I am not saying he will be a roaring success, nor am I saying he is not good enough. We as a fanbase need to stop believing outright that one person is worthy of it and another isn't. If Ange is hired then get behind him, if Enrique is hired get behind him, if Potter is hired then get behind. Whoever is fucking hired then get behind them.

This fanbase is weirdly obsessed with writing people off when they're simply linked with us. Of course discuss his style, his CV etc. but don't be a dick who is waiting to go "I told you so" if it fails.

How many were begging for Redknapp or Poch when we got them? Were they at the level we wanted? Redknapp was a Championship manager at the time. Poch was at Southampton. They had barely won anything of note between them. Same with Jol.

Just give whoever is hired a chance to implement their style and get behind them without getting on backs on day one or even before they sign a contract.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Do I want Ange? Not really he is however better than ending up with Rodger’s or the like.

His Celtic team is ultra attacking, I think they struggle with squad depth to compete in the champions league.

I do think we need a solid recruitment process in place to help whoever comes in. No more mixing and matching on players. This summer will be tough but we desperately need a clean slate and a good trim on the squad.

 

[aussiespursguy]

So after a 2 month or so manager search looks like we may well end up with someone who has been available the whole time. Sounds about right.

Due diligence!

 

[13VanDerBale13]

He was Brighton's #1 choice post-Potter. He was considered good enough for what everyone keeps saying is the best-run club in the league.

Only difference being, our club is run awfully, so any manager who comes, is on a hiding to nothing.

 

[night-watchman]

Nothing against Ange’s age since it is just a number but he just feels more like an experienced journeyman than a true visionary…

This is just flat out incorrect. I get why I lot of fans have reservations but accusing him of not being a visionary is just wrong. In fact if there is a criticism to be levelled at him is that it is the opposite - he is unflinchingly aggressive and attacking in how he sets up his teams. He has a way he likes his teams to play and doesn't compromise.

As for the journeyman comment - every team he has managed has been a step up from the last. He wants to manage the best teams he can so naturally is going to take a job offer from a bigger club - ridiculous criticism to level at him.

 

[Albertbarich]

Unfortunately that’s not how it works in the real world. Not at THFC anyway where there’s a fanbase who have paid thousands of pounds to watch games and where a squad that’s been assembled that has international captains and contains World Cup winners. The knives will be out from day one. This isn’t the club that appointed Poch anymore. The reaction online everywhere is worse than when we appointed Nuno. He won’t stand a chance.

It's wrong but the club has to play a huge role here.

They have ignored Poch and let him go to Chelsea and then gone out of their way to let everyone know they're not interested in the best candidate.

So now anyone coming in is going to face an uphill struggle, especially whilst Nagelsmann is still without a club.

Also they have made a big deal about being able to compete once this amazing stadium they're so proud of is complete and even I admit as someone who likes Ange that this doesn't feel that way at all.

They're making their own lives so much harder with odd decisions and no communication except to rule out the best person. Infuriating but I hope whoever comes in can somehwat unify us all

 

[chas vs dave]

He won’t get a chance. He will be walking into a stadium with a highly toxic atmosphere from day one. Most fans don’t want him and I suspect most of the players won’t either and with our club that’s a huge problem. I can’t believe levy will risk all that on appointing him. The risk is just too big

This context of a toxic stadium is getting bandied about too easily. A lot of fans have been very patient and will back the right manager.

You seem to be doing fans a big disservice. We backed conte for months, even though the football was abject.

 

[rossdapep]

Theres lots of reports de Zerbi was always first choice. Barber said as much last week too.

Well Barber is going to say that.

There's also lots of reports that Ange turned them down

 

[RuskyM]

The club wants a young, progressive manager for a long term rebuilt project. It is looking to appoint a 57 year old journeyman whose best job was in a league not even on the Championship level. It’s not a good fit whatsoever. The last time we said what we wanted, who did we hire? The most pragmatic coach we could find & forced him to play a system he comfortable with because of backlash against the appointment. Just smacks of “back here again in the fall.”

He's undeniably progressive. As for age, who cares? He's not lining up for us and average PL tenure is what, fourteen months? And if he was here for five years, he'd still not be able to draw a pension. If he's young enough to work according to the DWP he's young enough for me.

Theres lots of reports de Zerbi was always first choice. Barber said as much last week too And when he was appointed. Here it is from the horse’s mouth.

Well yeah, he's not gonna say "love our sloppy seconds", is he? Even if RDZ was first choice, AP was undeniably considered, so it's not like he's only linked with a PL club due to A-League connections.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

Ange is a journeyman who’s biggest gig is Celtic in a woefully poor league.
How some fans are backing him is beyond me, hugely gaslight by our club thinking this is some type of master plan to become a top football team again.
This is a cop out and he’ll be gone by Christmas.

 

[chas vs dave]

This is just flat out incorrect. I get why I lot of fans have reservations but accusing him of not being a visionary is just wrong. In fact if there is a criticism to be levelled at him is that it is the opposite - he is unflinchingly aggressive and attacking in how he sets up his teams. He has a way he likes his teams to play and doesn't compromise.

As for the journeyman comment - every team he has managed has been a step up from the last. He wants to manage the best teams he can so naturally is going to take a job offer from a bigger club - ridiculous criticism to level at him.

In his defence, he hasn't been given plumb roles from the outset. He's had to work his way up, that seems more of a positive than having a serial winner who hasn't managed a non dominant team.

 

[HedgieSpur]

It's started

I loathe this kind of thing. I dont particularly want Ange but I'd only have a campaign against a prospective manager if they had overtly racist, sexist, homophobic views and/or unacceptable behaviour.

Thankfully Im not on Twitter so wont have to see such nonesense