Manchester City to Offer Tottenham a Discounted Fee For Adebayor: Bloomberg

[hybridsoldier]

I think this story could come to fruition, a discounted fee...if wages can be met.

My worry is Adebayor has a history of being excellent for 6-12months then losing interest.

TBH he hasn't scored in 4 but his link up play has been top notch...I'm happy with that

 

[Abdoujaparov]

I think this story could come to fruition, a discounted fee...if wages can be met.

My worry is Adebayor has a history of being excellent for 6-12months then losing interest.

TBH he hasn't scored in 4 but his link up play has been top notch...I'm happy with that

I think we might sign Ade, but the story implies City want to realise a bigger loss (on Ade) now instead of a smaller loss later - for accounting reasons.

I don't think those accounting reasons stand up - it won't make a difference.

Which makes me think the story is BS. We still might sign Ade permanently, but the story is BS.

 

[Abdoujaparov]

Oh, and I just remembered that Fulham are playing tomorrow too and they tend to pick their first team in Europe. Sweet.

 

[mano-obe]

Risky risky risky. Great player but there is always that worry at the back of the mind he will throw his toys out the pram. I think Levy should think this one through come the summer.

Adebayor is enjoying his footy under Redknapp but if he leaves for the England position who knows

 

[Narnill]

Adebayor will enjoy his football under Ancelotti. I don't see a problem. :-D

 

[ravo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we have paid a fee to loan him for the season, then City can't recall or sell him to someone else. So, it's all well and good that they offer us a discount rate, but we don't have to take it. This means that Juve and others won't be able to have a go at him until the end of the season.

If he was on 150-170k at City, what could we realistically offer him? 120k?

 

[Spurger King]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we have paid a fee to loan him for the season, then City can't recall or sell him to someone else. So, it's all well and good that they offer us a discount rate, but we don't have to take it. This means that Juve and others won't be able to have a go at him until the end of the season.

If he was on 150-170k at City, what could we realistically offer him? 120k?

Realistically I doubt it would be that much. I really can't see any of our players being offered more than 100k p/w. You're going to have players like King, VDV, Modric..maybe Parker and Bale, calling for similar wages, which is fair enough given their contribution to the team (even if it is a stupidly large amount of money they are on anyway), not to mention the other players who may feel that an 80k difference in weekly salary is too much to take. I can't imagine Walker is on much more than 40 or 50k at the moment.

I don't think it applies now, but I understand that Gallas had it written into his contract that his salary would match the highest earner at the club. I imagine there are all sorts of disclaimers in contracts regarding such things, so as much as I'd like us to throw money at quality players like Adebayor, we need to ensure that there isn't a negative knock-on-effect that far outweighs securing him on a perm contract.

I can see why Levy is so keen to offload players like Bentley, who must be on 70k+, because a reduced squad would release a lot of cash that could be spent raising the average wage, and vastly improving the likelihood of players wanting to stay.

Personally I see the wage structure (which I believe is more of a total limit for the entire squad, rather than a cap for individuals) to be the last hurdle between us and a genuine title-challenging team. We've shown that you don't have to spend £200 million on players to compete at the highest level, however you will need to pay good wages to keep the ones you have. That's why I'd be happier to see us raise our limit on the total salary expenditure than bring in someone for £25 million (Adebayor being the paradoxical exception of course).

Clearly we won't be able to compete with 'Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan City' (currently residing in Manchester), but we'd be offering enough to stop our best players from wanting to jump ship.

Personally I hope that the effectiveness of Adebayor's loan spell will provide the necessary incentive to reconsider the current salary policy, and that we see him sign on a permanent contract.

 

[Stoof]

Listening to his interview on Saturday on Football Focus, I got the impression that following the impact of the Togo shooting he's become a completely different person. And that he's not all money-grabbing and mercenary-like. I don't know if my tune has changed since he's joined and is now "one of us" (for this season at least) but I do think that we do stand a real chance of signing him outright. What a statement that is to Modders and Co as well.

Even though Harry came out and said "No January Business", I really do expect us to do a Pav swaperoo.

 

[Spurvert]

It's a no brainer for me. If we can get his wages sorted then I'd pay up to £15 million for him.

The more I read/watch interviews with him the more endeared I become. It's true he hasn't scored in a few but to me that's ok because he offers such fantastic link up play and it isn't for the want of trying!

For example Rafa's goal on Sunday. Who was the man in the box making it difficult for Gabbidon to clear the ball.

I've been made up with Ade's impact since arriving and if we can get a permanent deal for him then it's a no brainer!!

 

[sloth]

If Ade wants his Citeh wages matched then the Russian club Anzhi are his only option. If we can put together something competitive I am sure he will want to stay.

Agree about his City wages not being matched, but there's a huge gulf between them and what we can probably afford and there will be plenty of richer clubs in the major leagues who'll be interested in him too.

If I were Ade, knowing that City were desperate to get rid I'd be feeling I was in the driving seat and I'd be wanting to simply sit back, enjoy this season and see what the options are come the summer.

 

[tRiKS]

3 goals and 4 assists in 7 games. Thats a fine return by a front man. Especially when the players supporting his lone role are scoring

 

[sloth]

Personally I see the wage structure (which I believe is more of a total limit for the entire squad, rather than a cap for individuals) to be the last hurdle between us and a genuine title-challenging team. We've shown that you don't have to spend £200 million on players to compete at the highest level, however you will need to pay good wages to keep the ones you have.

This is a false distinction people draw. Player expenditure is net transfer fee (what you spend to get him in, less what you get when he leaves you) plus wages.

The reason it's easier to spend more on a transfer fee is because it's an investment in an asset. If you spend £200m on a Picasso, then yes that's £200m you no longer have in liquid cash, you can't just withdraw it from the bank and spend it again, but you have a £200m asset which can increase or decrease in value. In other words you haven't reduced the net worth of yourself or enterprise you've just spread your wealth about, banking it in a form other than money.

That's why I'd be happier to see us raise our limit on the total salary expenditure than bring in someone for £25 million (Adebayor being the paradoxical exception of course).

Increasing salaries may help prevent you having to sell your assets before they devalue as contracts near their end. But it is no guarantee. Pay too much and it can devalue your asset too, which is what City are finding with Adebayor.

There is a balance to be struck, but if it cannot be struck you must cash in.

This is why signing your better players each year to a new five or six year contract as Levy seems to do is the only sure-fire way to protect yourself. Of course they may decide the don't want to sign, but then you at least have five or six years warning that they're looking for brighter lights, it gives you time to demonstrate the bright lights are here, to negotiate a better deal with them or to find a buyer who will pay what you think he's worth. If he won't sign at the right price you must sell.

Clearly we won't be able to compete with 'Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan City' (currently residing in Manchester), but we'd be offering enough to stop our best players from wanting to jump ship.

Personally I hope that the effectiveness of Adebayor's loan spell will provide the necessary incentive to reconsider the current salary policy, and that we see him sign on a permanent contract.

I don't want us to reconsider our current salary policy. Liverpool spend double what we do on player salaries and look where they are. Arsenal spend £30m - £40m a year more than we do and look at them.

We should ensure we pay only the salaries we can afford and be prepared to take a half step backwards every now and then to take a whole one forward. in the future.

This has been the style of our progress since ENIC took over.

 

[tRiKS]

This is a false distinction people draw. Player expenditure is net transfer fee (what you spend to get him in, less what you get when he leaves you) plus wages.

The reason it's easier to spend more on a transfer fee is because it's an investment in an asset. If you spend £200m on a Picasso, then yes that's £200m you no longer have in liquid cash, you can't just withdraw it from the bank and spend it again, but you have a £200m asset which can increase or decrease in value. In other words you haven't reduced the net worth of yourself or enterprise you've just spread your wealth about, banking it in a form other than money.



Increasing salaries may help prevent you having to sell your assets before they devalue as contracts near their end. But it is no guarantee. Pay too much and it can devalue your asset too, which is what City are finding with Adebayor.

There is a balance to be struck, but if it cannot be struck you must cash in.

This is why signing your better players each year to a new five or six year contract as Levy seems to do is the only sure-fire way to protect yourself. Of course they may decide the don't want to sign, but then you at least have five or six years warning that they're looking for brighter lights, it gives you time to demonstrate the bright lights are here, to negotiate a better deal with them or to find a buyer who will pay what you think he's worth. If he won't sign at the right price you must sell.



I don't want us to reconsider our current salary policy. Liverpool spend double what we do on player salaries and look where they are. Arsenal spend £30m - £40m a year more than we do and look at them.

We should ensure we pay only the salaries we can afford and be prepared to take a half step backwards every now and then to take a whole one forward. in the future.

This has been the style of our progress since ENIC took over.

Excellent points excellently put