Liverpudlians not all Scousers

[hughy]

We do that as well, like... As do almost every set of football fans in existence.

Not to the extent of Everton fans.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Not to the extent of Everton fans.

Wait 'til Leeds get promoted...

 

[Gassin's finest]

From when he was sacked we averaged around a point a game in the league for the previous year.
It was relegation form, this isn't opinion, this isn't ott...those are facts.

Ahh this is like the good old times, I haven't thought about the horrific killer virus for about 10 minutes now.

 

[Shadydan]

Yep, relegation form gets you 4th and a CL final. Some of our fans are still ott about this.

What nonsense, look at the league table for the calendar year.

 

[riggi]

Wait 'til Leeds get promoted...

 

[dontcallme]

Hi guys . I hope you don't mind me visiting your site . I stumbled onto it reading about Heysel . I was trying to find out if LFC appealed against their European ban . They received a 3 year ban when the rest of us were let back in . That 3 years became 1 year . I am a Evertonian and we probably suffered due to the ban more than anyone . We missed 2 European cup campaigns and 2 UEFA cups in the 5 yrs . We also lost our manager Howard Kendall and that great side was broken up and we never recovered. At the time we were one of the big 5 . Even the most biased blue has to accept we became a mid table team at best for years . Add to that the ' we knocked Everton out of the European cup without kicking a ball ' jokes from those wonderful Liverpool fans . They stopped after Hillsboro but still our resentment remains . How I hope they don't win the league this year . Anyway back to the reason I'm writing this. During my search for Heysel stories I stumbled upon your site and the hypocrisy of Liverpudlians was being discussed. Hillsboro and Heysel are both disasters that should be remembered. Liverpool have removed Heysel from their history . A 30 year old red on a Blues forum stated ' as I was born in 1990 I don't know much about Heysel . In the articles I read some Spurs fans pointed to this hypocrisy blaming ' bloody Scousers' . Most of these Liverpudlians don't come from Liverpool. Evertonian's are a different species to that shower as far as I'm concerned. Anyway guys stay safe and good luck oh and what were you thinking sacking Poch ?

Quite a long paragraph.

I do find it rather sad that many football fans have no idea about Heysel and the outcome, not just Liverpool fans.

It was a huge event and the one that broke the camel's back and finally made authorities give English teams and fans a proper punishment. As you say the repercussions for your own side was a fall from being a top club.

While we still have fan trouble I do believe this incident was the point where we did start to take proper action.

Personally though I don't think we should be putting all the focus onto Liverpool. While this incident was clearly their fans, it could have been a number of teams with the way English fans acted at the time.

As for Poch. I err on the side that it was right to get rid of him. He did a great job but once results went bad he didn't seem to know how to turn it around. But as others have said we have done this debate to death. We don't know the true inner actions within the club so it's hard to judge.

 

[Marty]

Personally though I don't think we should be putting all the focus onto Liverpool. While this incident was clearly their fans, it could have been a number of teams with the way English fans acted at the time.

Absolutely this, Liverpool were in this game because they were the best team in the land (obviously), but imagine if Leeds, Millwall, Cardiff, Chelsea, even Spurs fans had descended on Heysel that day and I'm convinced the result would've been exactly the same.

And in hindsight we know from our semi final at Hillsborough in '81 where a similar crush *nearly* happened that it was only a matter of time before it was going to go badly wrong.

 

[Dougal]

What nonsense, look at the league table for the calendar year.

Not really how League tables generally work... Wouldn’t we have won the League in 2017 if it was? Are you condoning the sacking of our calendar year League winning Manager? Shame upon your house!

 

[Shadydan]

Not really how League tables generally work... Wouldn’t we have won the League in 2017 if it was? Are you condoning the sacking of our calendar year League winning Manager? Shame upon your house!

Who says anything about league tables, the original point was about form, our form was dire for the whole year which was a huge reason for his sacking.

 

[riggi]

He’s gone lads. Time to move on.

 

[Dougal]

Who says anything about league tables

You

What nonsense, look at the league table for the calendar year.

 

[Shadydan]

You

 

[Megsey]

Same could be said about every squad mate, I think that’s just the nature of modern footballers and egos.
The drop off was stark, but it started a long time before Jose was on the scene.

Far too early to judge Jose imo, we’ll see where we are in a year, patience is like rocking horse shit amongst many fans, especially on here, so there’ll be many tears until then.

fucking hate Liverpool. (the fans, not the city)

Yeah you're right . It's the likes of Pogba and our very own delph that feed the narrative of selfish players . This might make you smile . The Liverpool Echo ( usually reliable) reported a few weeks back Liverpudlians were paying upto 10k for one night in a hotel . The night their Premiership parade was due to take place . Many are not refundable. Ten grand to watch a double decker drive past .

 

[Lilbaz]

Hi guys . I hope you don't mind me visiting your site . I stumbled onto it reading about Heysel . I was trying to find out if LFC appealed against their European ban . They received a 3 year ban when the rest of us were let back in . That 3 years became 1 year . I am a Evertonian and we probably suffered due to the ban more than anyone . We missed 2 European cup campaigns and 2 UEFA cups in the 5 yrs . We also lost our manager Howard Kendall and that great side was broken up and we never recovered. At the time we were one of the big 5 . Even the most biased blue has to accept we became a mid table team at best for years . Add to that the ' we knocked Everton out of the European cup without kicking a ball ' jokes from those wonderful Liverpool fans . They stopped after Hillsboro but still our resentment remains . How I hope they don't win the league this year . Anyway back to the reason I'm writing this. During my search for Heysel stories I stumbled upon your site and the hypocrisy of Liverpudlians was being discussed. Hillsboro and Heysel are both disasters that should be remembered. Liverpool have removed Heysel from their history . A 30 year old red on a Blues forum stated ' as I was born in 1990 I don't know much about Heysel . In the articles I read some Spurs fans pointed to this hypocrisy blaming ' bloody Scousers' . Most of these Liverpudlians don't come from Liverpool. Evertonian's are a different species to that shower as far as I'm concerned. Anyway guys stay safe and good luck oh and what were you thinking sacking Poch ?

Fuck football, stay for the other threads, we have rate the last movie you watched and the coroavirus threads. Fun for the whole family.

 

[Gb160]

Yeah you're right . It's the likes of Pogba and our very own delph that feed the narrative of selfish players . This might make you smile . The Liverpool Echo ( usually reliable) reported a few weeks back Liverpudlians were paying upto 10k for one night in a hotel . The night their Premiership parade was due to take place . Many are not refundable. Ten grand to watch a double decker drive past .

Ahh that is brilliant

 

[spud]

Liverpool have removed Heysel from their history .

Indeed they have. As they will also in time remove from their history their support of a racist (Suarez) and numerous other 'indiscretions'.

One that you may not know is that when Arsenal were 'elected' to the First Division in 1916 at the expense of Tottenham (I suggest you look it up) it was orchestrated by a corrupt Arsenal director. However, it could not have happened without the active support of the Chairman of Liverpool.

Personally though I don't think we should be putting all the focus onto Liverpool. While this incident was clearly their fans, it could have been a number of teams with the way English fans acted at the time.

Sure. Let's not blame the germans for the concentration camps. Italy was on their side so it could have easily been them who did it instead.

Rarely heard such bollocks.

And in hindsight we know from our semi final at Hillsborough in '81 where a similar crush *nearly* happened that it was only a matter of time before it was going to go badly wrong.

A similar crush didn't 'nearly' happen. It did happen. I was in it. The difference wasn't the crush, it was the fact that the police opened the cages to let us out before anybody died whereas eight years later they decided to kill a few football fans.

 

[dontcallme]

Sure. Let's not blame the germans for the concentration camps. Italy was on their side so it could have easily been them who did it instead.

Rarely heard such bollocks.

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Truly one of the strangest responses I have ever heard.

 

[spud]

Truly one of the strangest responses I have ever heard.

Over your head? Fair enough. Perhaps you'll understand this one.

'You shouldn't blame Spurs fans for trashing Rotterdam in 1974 when we went there in the UEFA Cup because 'it could have been a number of teams with the way English fans acted at the time'.'

Utterly nonsensical.

 

[dontcallme]

Over your head? Fair enough. Perhaps you'll understand this one.

'You shouldn't blame Spurs fans for trashing Rotterdam in 1974 when we went there in the UEFA Cup because 'it could have been a number of teams with the way English fans acted at the time'.'

Utterly nonsensical.

You have completely taken my point out of context and missed the point.

We were discussing English teams getting banned from Europe and how Heysel was the final straw. I merely said that the way English fans acted in these days it was always going to happen and we can't the full blame of the ban onto Livepool.

If you want to twist that into something completely different then go ahead. If you lack comprehension skills then you can't have a conversation on any real level so I won't be wasting anymore time on you.

 

[aliyid]

Welcome to SC, always found the toffees to be a decent bunch and have good banter at games. From wishing us luck against Liverpool in CL final through to applauding us for the reception we gave Lennon when he came on against us (love little Azza)