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"Levy must fully back Conte in the transfer window"

stormfly

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? ???: In Antonio Conte's first meeting with the board about the January transfer window, he was told that money would be tighter following the summer business. [Alasdair Gold]

Well well well.....
Tbf Levy would argue that Fab was buying the players in the summer so they would have been signings we feel we needed. Managers may come and go but Fab would be the one shaping the squad. Rumours are that Conte doesn’t rate Emerson and feels he can be upgraded on though, so that doesn’t look to good haha.
 

Fidget

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Can we just be a club who wants to improve on the pitch and take this last chance not to piss off another manager?

How are we making this forum an issue, that can mysteriously affect the ability of our signings to help the team improve..
Something directly down to our signings of the last 3/4 seasons has taken us from being league title contenders and continuous Champions League qualifiers, to the state we see in front of our eyes now.

Passionate and sometimes desperate lifetime support for a team is fine in all it’s madness.
Of course we criticise.
 

goughie1966

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Is Levy still in charge of transfer dealings?
No.

ITK have said numerous times that Levy will not be involved now in transfers. Paratici has his budget and will be left alone to deal with it. No wonder the ITK's have become exasperated and will be posting less from now on.
 

Delboy75

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Levy can’t possibly be that stupid to appoint him and not back him. It would be the final nail for him. I mean Conte is literally the last manager you’d appoint if you had no intent to back. I just don’t believe he could be that stupid.
 

Spurs 1961

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No.

ITK have said numerous times that Levy will not be involved now in transfers. Paratici has his budget and will be left alone to deal with it. No wonder the ITK's have become exasperated and will be posting less from now on.
But we were also told last transfer window that DL jumped in and took over at the end refusing to buy Traore. He is ultimately the man who says yea or nay.

The truth is there are plans and plans but they depend on other clubs, players, agents and changing circumstances. There are too many parameters to control and as a club we are not at the top table so don’t get the best players. Yet we have a lot of money so don’t go down the route of developing cheap young players either.

I watch with intrigue as our revolving door spews out the latest manager who demands x,y,z players yet make little difference. Poch, maybe Harry, was the exception. The attitude of making players better resonates so much more with me than the next list of ‘must have’ players who in reality are unlikely to make much of an impact. Still maybe we will unearth another Ossie, Modric or Son who will be huge for us. Meanwhile I will not get excited about names of unknown players who will probably be forgotten by this time next year
 

g_harry

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No.

ITK have said numerous times that Levy will not be involved now in transfers. Paratici has his budget and will be left alone to deal with it. No wonder the ITK's have become exasperated and will be posting less from now on.
Yea more like - here you are Fab, there 10mil to get you going in Janurary. Hopefully that gets you all you need but no problem, if you need little more just give me a buzz. Dan.?
 

danielneeds

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Backing doesn’t mean giving him a limitless budget, but it does mean pushing the boat out and maybe paying over the odds for one or two players that he thinks can make a real difference.
 

cockerel downunder

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It’s a tricky one. Ndombele is a perfect example of levy pulling out all stops and going the extra mile to get the player the manager really wanted. High fee high wages, same wages as Kane which I bet was against levy’s better judgement at the time. And now we can’t shift him as no one who can afford him wants him.

to me, levy’s job is to manage risk and all transfers are risky so you need confidence you can on sell a player if needed.

I’m sure levy loves the loan to buy deals that paratici seems to be able to do and also buying younger talent with potential. But these will only take you so far and if conte wants some finished article players levy will need to take the risk and pay the wages. If we can sell ndombele first he may see this as an acceptable risk, but that will be tough.

you only need to look at the mess Barca are in how to see what happens when club chairmen lose sight of risk management, listen to the fans and “back the manager”.

we need to be smart, give conte what he needs to improve the squad but without creating even bigger problems down the line.
 

sundanceyid10

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? ???: In Antonio Conte's first meeting with the board about the January transfer window, he was told that money would be tighter following the summer business. [Alasdair Gold]

Well well well.....
Levy at the bar buying the drinks again.
 

sundanceyid10

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Can we just be a club who wants to improve on the pitch and take this last chance not to piss off another manager?

How are we making this forum an issue, that can mysteriously affect the ability of our signings to help the team improve..
Something directly down to our signings of the last 3/4 seasons has taken us from being league title contenders and continuous Champions League qualifiers, to the state we see in front of our eyes now.

Passionate and sometimes desperate lifetime support for a team is fine in all it’s madness.
Of course we criticise.
The common denominator in all that …. Levy
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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It’s a tricky one. Ndombele is a perfect example of levy pulling out all stops and going the extra mile to get the player the manager really wanted. High fee high wages, same wages as Kane which I bet was against levy’s better judgement at the time. And now we can’t shift him as no one who can afford him wants him.

to me, levy’s job is to manage risk and all transfers are risky so you need confidence you can on sell a player if needed.

I’m sure levy loves the loan to buy deals that paratici seems to be able to do and also buying younger talent with potential. But these will only take you so far and if conte wants some finished article players levy will need to take the risk and pay the wages. If we can sell ndombele first he may see this as an acceptable risk, but that will be tough.

you only need to look at the mess Barca are in how to see what happens when club chairmen lose sight of risk management, listen to the fans and “back the manager”.

we need to be smart, give conte what he needs to improve the squad but without creating even bigger problems down the line.

Very good post. The CEO of any company in the world will always have to sign off and approve big investments, so Levy's role is no different than what happens at all football clubs.

He just needs to get the balance right on how much he trusts Paratici's judgement verus his own. Paratici has proven he isn't infallable with some of his purchases at Juve - Ramsey is a high profile example of this. Conversely a big part a DOF's role is putting forward such a compelling case to sign a player to the CEO that they have to approve it. If sometimes we don't go for certain players Paratici will need questioning ahead of Levy.
 

luptic

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If we bring in no one in this January window given the position we currently are in, then this is more criminal by Levy than when he brought in Saha and Nelson.
 

Aphex

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Backing him in my mind would be 6 signings between now and September.

and those 6 signings need to be first team quality signings, not potential like Gil. So the calibre I mean would be Kessie, Vlahovic, that level.
 

ultimateloner

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It's not just about buying players the current manager wants.
It's more about having a system in place that identifies good players, that a manager can work with.
When the system and the manager's preference aligns, then we have targets.

I disagree with just 'buying whoever the manager wants'. Managers come and go, and we already what it's like saddled with players we can't shift.
 

SUIYHA

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Backing him in my mind would be 6 signings between now and September.

and those 6 signings need to be first team quality signings, not potential like Gil. So the calibre I mean would be Kessie, Vlahovic, that level.

I think I like this "rule of 6" and it makes sense that that was probably what was agreed with Conte (saw something in one of the ITK threads alluding to the same). I'm sure he knows that getting top targets in January is tough as nobody wants to sell their best players midway through the season, but if we can get one or two in now then that gives us a head start on work we'll need to do in the summer.

Tough balancing act though - do we sign Traore now for £20m or wait until the summer and go for Lamptey for £50m? I assume we won't have the funds for both players. If we get Champions League football that may also unlock budget and attraction for better players still than we could afford right now, but if we've already signed a first teamer in that position then it's hard to justify.

The thing is - I can completely see a scenario in the above case where Conte demands a RWB and we go for Traore now to show that we mean business, but then when he flops and Lamptey goes somewhere else in the summer and then the fans go into meltdown when stories about him not getting his "first choice" come out...
 

dontcallme

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I think I like this "rule of 6" and it makes sense that that was probably what was agreed with Conte (saw something in one of the ITK threads alluding to the same). I'm sure he knows that getting top targets in January is tough as nobody wants to sell their best players midway through the season, but if we can get one or two in now then that gives us a head start on work we'll need to do in the summer.

Tough balancing act though - do we sign Traore now for £20m or wait until the summer and go for Lamptey for £50m? I assume we won't have the funds for both players. If we get Champions League football that may also unlock budget and attraction for better players still than we could afford right now, but if we've already signed a first teamer in that position then it's hard to justify.

The thing is - I can completely see a scenario in the above case where Conte demands a RWB and we go for Traore now to show that we mean business, but then when he flops and Lamptey goes somewhere else in the summer and then the fans go into meltdown when stories about him not getting his "first choice" come out...
Fans can always read any situation how they want. It is a decision to make. It appears competition for Lamptey could be much higher, as well as the price. It's a risk either way. Unless Conte wants Traore more than Lamptey.
 

Aphex

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I think I like this "rule of 6" and it makes sense that that was probably what was agreed with Conte (saw something in one of the ITK threads alluding to the same). I'm sure he knows that getting top targets in January is tough as nobody wants to sell their best players midway through the season, but if we can get one or two in now then that gives us a head start on work we'll need to do in the summer.

Tough balancing act though - do we sign Traore now for £20m or wait until the summer and go for Lamptey for £50m? I assume we won't have the funds for both players. If we get Champions League football that may also unlock budget and attraction for better players still than we could afford right now, but if we've already signed a first teamer in that position then it's hard to justify.

The thing is - I can completely see a scenario in the above case where Conte demands a RWB and we go for Traore now to show that we mean business, but then when he flops and Lamptey goes somewhere else in the summer and then the fans go into meltdown when stories about him not getting his "first choice" come out...

Traore isn’t going to be the difference between top 4 or not so I’d rather pass this January but then I don’t want him anyway.

Let’s reevaluate in the summer and see who is available for RWB then, surely we will have better options. Depends though, if he is genuinely Conte’s top target which I find doubtful, it makes sense to do it asap.
 

Blake Griffin

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i'm not saying that we shouldn't sign anyone but our recruitment has been so bad and for so long that i'm afraid of who we're going to blow our money on next.
 
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