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1882andallthat

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Hang on, I thought they were massive? European Champions don’t lose to Bristol City?
Bristol City should take a leaf out of the Spammers book by making outrageous claims about now being the self proclaimed Champions of Europe who are even more massive than the Spammers on account of the fact that they've brought the so called Champions of Europe back down to earth. 😉
 

Led's Zeppelin

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More trouble looming...


This is extremely important both for WHU and for London, because their tenancy in that toilet-bowl of a stadium is so unstable.

Brady made a common and I think possibly fatal mistake: she thought getting the best possible deal meant screwing London and all the parties that represent London’s interests. But the best deals are the ones that suit both sides.

There is no way that deal survives its putative 99 year life, and given the soaring costs of just about everything, that is very bad news indeed for the smelly spammers who are 100% living on borrowed time.

Sad 😂
 

markt

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This is extremely important both for WHU and for London, because their tenancy in that toilet-bowl of a stadium is so unstable.

Brady made a common and I think possibly fatal mistake: she thought getting the best possible deal meant screwing London and all the parties that represent London’s interests. But the best deals are the ones that suit both sides.

There is no way that deal survives its putative 99 year life, and given the soaring costs of just about everything, that is very bad news indeed for the smelly spammers who are 100% living on borrowed time.

Sad 😂
At the time though if goes to show how bad a deal Boris got. Don't blame Brady if those on the other side are stupid. Chances are though the stadium will be sold at knockdown price I reckon, but at least then West Ham have to fund maintenance costs instead of the taxpayer.

On the plus side, watching Bristol City beat Taxpayer Utd was quite fun
 

Insomnia

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Fancy going all the way to Bristol, and then to sing to that lower tier team that has never been in the Premier League, "Champions of Europe you'll never sing that" & then losing the match.
Banter FC take a bow you ****'s
 

Led's Zeppelin

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At the time though if goes to show how bad a deal Boris got. Don't blame Brady if those on the other side are stupid. Chances are though the stadium will be sold at knockdown price I reckon, but at least then West Ham have to fund maintenance costs instead of the taxpayer.

On the plus side, watching Bristol City beat Taxpayer Utd was quite fun
Yes, Boris was incompetent, and as always incredibly short-sighted.

But Brady was also exceedingly short-sighted.

It appears she never gave a moment’s thought to anything beyond the immediate headlines of getting a 60,000 stadium before Spurs. That short-sightedness WILL bite them in the arse one way or another. Even if all that happens is they stay there and take over the costs of running and repairing, they’re looking at a sum that could have built them a proper football ground.

Instead they’ve got a horrible, bloated temporary athletics stadium that’s failing and that the fans largely detest, with huge problems looming.

That is not a good deal.

Still, they always have the FA cup to look forward to…..
 

McArchibald

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I thought Seb Coe and Athletics UK pushed for this deal also. They wanted to host the Athletics world cup and Coe to get the nod as IAAF president. And the taxpayers are left to pick up the tab...
 

Nayim60yards

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Bristol City's goalscorer Tommy Conway was asked in an interview last night if playing against a Premier League side was very different to Championship teams and he said he didn't really see a massive difference from the Champo in the two games v West Ham. Not sure if he's being a bit cocky as he scored in both games but from a West Ham point of view that is pretty damning.
 
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I thought Seb Coe and Athletics UK pushed for this deal also. They wanted to host the Athletics world cup and Coe to get the nod as IAAF president. And the taxpayers are left to pick up the tab...


In summary, then, the Tory Lord got the job he wanted, the Tory Mayor got the kudos he wanted and the Tory donor got the bargain she wanted.

And the taxpayer got stuffed.

If only there were some lessons to be learned here to stop it happening again...
 

TheChosenOne

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In summary, then, the Tory Lord got the job he wanted, the Tory Mayor got the kudos he wanted and the Tory donor got the bargain she wanted.

And the taxpayer got stuffed.

If only there were some lessons to be learned here to stop it happening again...

Always follow the money.
 

TheHodFather

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I thought Seb Coe and Athletics UK pushed for this deal also. They wanted to host the Athletics world cup and Coe to get the nod as IAAF president. And the taxpayers are left to pick up the tab...
Is this true? Can't be bothered to go back and search, but I thought at the time that UK Athletics favoured the Spurs bid as it involved redeveloping the Crystal Palace stadium, so UK Athletics would have ended up with a permanent athletics stadium that was a sensible size rather than a part-time athletics stadium that could only ever be filled by an Olympics?
 

tommo84

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I thought Seb Coe and Athletics UK pushed for this deal also. They wanted to host the Athletics world cup and Coe to get the nod as IAAF president. And the taxpayers are left to pick up the tab...
Yeah from memory the Rt Honorable Seb had an interest in a firm that then got the contract to renovate Crystal Palace’s athletics stadium, so he was keen to depart from the original plan of London Stadium becoming the home of UK Athletics. Something along those lines.
 

chas vs dave

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I thought Seb Coe and Athletics UK pushed for this deal also. They wanted to host the Athletics world cup and Coe to get the nod as IAAF president. And the taxpayers are left to pick up the tab...
Sebastian coe was also at the time on the board of an organisation set to profit from the demolition of crystal Palace.

Totally unethical.

 

chaching

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Yeah from memory the Rt Honorable Seb had an interest in a firm that then got the contract to renovate Crystal Palace’s athletics stadium, so he was keen to depart from the original plan of London Stadium becoming the home of UK Athletics. Something along those lines.
My memory is slightly different. Seb had a interest in the firm that would knock Crystal Palace down for housing etc. Something that wouldn't happen if Spurs bid succeeded (and didn't happen anyway). Seb also wanted a role in IOC so had to be seen pushing for legacy of the London Olympics. Our bid was by far the best for GB athletics, tax payer, Stratford (long term) and pretty much everyone apart from Seb Coe and West ham. lucky enough those dodgy ****s got what they wanted and things opened up around White hart lane so we could develop the best stadium without moving away from Tottenham.
 

tommo84

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My memory is slightly different. Seb had an interest in the firm that would knock Crystal Palace down for housing etc. Something that wouldn't happen if Spurs bid succeeded (and didn't happen anyway). Seb also wanted a role in IOC so had to be seen pushing for legacy of the London Olympics. Our bid was by far the best for GB athletics, tax payer, Stratford (long term) and pretty much everyone apart from Seb Coe and West ham. lucky enough those dodgy ****s got what they wanted and things opened up around White hart lane so we could develop the best stadium without moving away from Tottenham.
That makes sense. I just remember that Coe’s involvement sounded completely unethical at the time but nothing was ever made of it.
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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I don’t see this being bad for West Ham. They have a legally binding contract for the stadium and it will only change if THEY agree to a change in contract, eg buying the stadium at a knockdown price. Even if the stadium sale went public and let’s say Levy bought it to knock down for flats, it wouldn’t happen without WHam getting a sizeable amount of compensation that offsets the contract already in place.

as much as we don’t like it, Wham have a good deal.
 

NickHSpurs

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I don’t see this being bad for West Ham. They have a legally binding contract for the stadium and it will only change if THEY agree to a change in contract, eg buying the stadium at a knockdown price. Even if the stadium sale went public and let’s say Levy bought it to knock down for flats, it wouldn’t happen without WHam getting a sizeable amount of compensation that offsets the contract already in place.

as much as we don’t like it, Wham have a good deal.

It's still a terrible stadium for football though, that will never change as long as that athletics track has to stay.
 

Kingellesar

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May 2, 2005
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Yeah it's really not a good football stadium. Especially for the atmosphere, they went from Upton Park to that....
 
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