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Lilbaz

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you can't make things happen if you don't take risks.

There's taking risks then there is passing to the opposition. There is taking risks and there is running straight into a defender and losing the ball time after time. It wouldn't be an issue if he didn't do it so often. If it paid off now and again it would be worth the risk.
 

THFCSPURS19

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There's taking risks then there is passing to the opposition. There is taking risks and there is running straight into a defender and losing the ball time after time. It wouldn't be an issue if he didn't do it so often. If it paid off now and again it would be worth the risk.
I know what you're saying but the video shows that he didn't do that against Burnley.
 

Lilbaz

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I know what you're saying but the video shows that he didn't do that against Burnley.

Great. Then carry on like that and he will do well. He's been poor for us so far. People were wanting Lennon to start against Burnley. He really needs to get his head in the game and give us performances like the first half against Burnley. He wasn't that great the second half but to be fair he wasn't given much of the ball. There is a good player there somewhere, it's about time he started showing us him.
 

idontgetit

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you can't make things happen if you don't take risks.

I'm one of Lamela's biggest fans but it is a valid criticism, he does miss-hit attacking passes that you'd expect a top pro to make. I've got no problem him losing the ball trying to take on the fullback though, it's what he's meant to be doing. He has that kind of control that sucks challenges in, get it right and you're unplayable....get it wrong and you lose the ball a lot. He's just that fraction of a second off the pace at the moment, which will come with form.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Ridiculous statement if you haven't been watching him play over the last two/three years and only saw the World Cup. I've been watching him since he got his start, he's a talented kid that's not even 21 yet. Not even close to a commercial deal.

Well if you read my later post you'll see your assumption is wide of the mark.

Don't need to ask but take it you're American by chance?
 

onthetwo

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His English sounds pretty good these days in that interview on the OS
was about to post the same.....good effort to try, suggests hes settling in (though being perfectly honest, its the least one should expect after almost 18 months with us).
 
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Larryjanta

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Where they hell is the middle ground on Lamela? It seems you either need to ignore his poor performance(there have been many) and the times he gives away the ball cheaply(again, there have been lots) or only look at his goals and assists (there have been some) or his lovely bits of skill (there have be many). Don't get why there is so much division on him.

Has he lived up to his price tag? No. Surely even his biggest fans concede this? Has he shown flashes? Definitely. Surely even his biggest critics concede this? Will he go on to be a brilliant player? Possibly, but much more likely if we get behind him rather than waiting for him to play poorly so we can slate him.
 

Tucker

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Where they hell is the middle ground on Lamela? It seems you either need to ignore his poor performance(there have been many) and the times he gives away the ball cheaply(again, there have been lots) or only look at his goals and assists (there have been some) or his lovely bits of skill (there have be many). Don't get why there is so much division on him.

Has he lived up to his price tag? No. Surely even his biggest fans concede this? Has he shown flashes? Definitely. Surely even his biggest critics concede this? Will he go on to be a brilliant player? Possibly, but much more likely if we get behind him rather than waiting for him to play poorly so we can slate him.

Precisely, in all honesty I think it's the price tag that people have against him rather than anything else. He's cost the club a lot of money and hasn't been worth it, yet.

But there is no point saying he was a waste until we see what he becomes, if after a few years he's still on the books and not performing then sure label him a waste, but until then take the rough with the smooth and allow a clearly talented youngster to develop his game.
 

FEA92

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Where they hell is the middle ground on Lamela? It seems you either need to ignore his poor performance(there have been many) and the times he gives away the ball cheaply(again, there have been lots) or only look at his goals and assists (there have been some) or his lovely bits of skill (there have be many). Don't get why there is so much division on him.

Has he lived up to his price tag? No. Surely even his biggest fans concede this? Has he shown flashes? Definitely. Surely even his biggest critics concede this? Will he go on to be a brilliant player? Possibly, but much more likely if we get behind him rather than waiting for him to play poorly so we can slate him.

Hi. I don't usually post here, mostly a lurker. What I do have to say in this case is that I have seen Lamela since he was brought into the first team at River Plate, and you have the right perspective on where he currently stands as a player. What I have to add though, is that the Lamela that I've seen at River and at Roma isn't the Lamela we are seeing at Tottenham. He is worse and it's not due to the weakness of the Italian or Argentine league but because he is changing his style of play dramatically. Barely ever shoots and uses a way smaller arrange of skills than before. It worries me as a fan because I wouldn't miss a Roma game just to see him play whilst now he can be quite mediocre trying things out that he never used to do (for example his sloppy step-overs that I don't recall ever seeing him do before arriving at England). It also gives me hope because I know there's more to him that he has shown us and if it's about feeling comfortable to express himself fully that's something he will achieve through time. I recall in his time at Roma he scored in 7 matches in a row before getting injured (including 2 versus a stronger Milan) and leaving players like Sharaway and Coutinho in his shadow. I hope for his good that he can become the player that many thought he would become - and he is showing glimpses of great talent - but I also worry that he is just not meant for the Premier League and will go on to become a sensation whether in Spain or back in Italy. All in all best of luck to him as even though he might not perform the constant with him is that he gives his all every game and pressures like no one else in the team.
 

prawnsandwich

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Hi. I don't usually post here, mostly a lurker. What I do have to say in this case is that I have seen Lamela since he was brought into the first team at River Plate, and you have the right perspective on where he currently stands as a player. What I have to add though, is that the Lamela that I've seen at River and at Roma isn't the Lamela we are seeing at Tottenham. He is worse and it's not due to the weakness of the Italian or Argentine league but because he is changing his style of play dramatically. Barely ever shoots and uses a way smaller arrange of skills than before. It worries me as a fan because I wouldn't miss a Roma game just to see him play whilst now he can be quite mediocre trying things out that he never used to do (for example his sloppy step-overs that I don't recall ever seeing him do before arriving at England). It also gives me hope because I know there's more to him that he has shown us and if it's about feeling comfortable to express himself fully that's something he will achieve through time. I recall in his time at Roma he scored in 7 matches in a row before getting injured (including 2 versus a stronger Milan) and leaving players like Sharaway and Coutinho in his shadow. I hope for his good that he can become the player that many thought he would become - and he is showing glimpses of great talent - but I also worry that he is just not meant for the Premier League and will go on to become a sensation whether in Spain or back in Italy. All in all best of luck to him as even though he might not perform the constant with him is that he gives his all every game and pressures like no one else in the team.
Lovely post. Thanks for that.
 

thinktank

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Hi. I don't usually post here, mostly a lurker. What I do have to say in this case is that I have seen Lamela since he was brought into the first team at River Plate, and you have the right perspective on where he currently stands as a player. What I have to add though, is that the Lamela that I've seen at River and at Roma isn't the Lamela we are seeing at Tottenham. He is worse and it's not due to the weakness of the Italian or Argentine league but because he is changing his style of play dramatically. Barely ever shoots and uses a way smaller arrange of skills than before. It worries me as a fan because I wouldn't miss a Roma game just to see him play whilst now he can be quite mediocre trying things out that he never used to do (for example his sloppy step-overs that I don't recall ever seeing him do before arriving at England). It also gives me hope because I know there's more to him that he has shown us and if it's about feeling comfortable to express himself fully that's something he will achieve through time. I recall in his time at Roma he scored in 7 matches in a row before getting injured (including 2 versus a stronger Milan) and leaving players like Sharaway and Coutinho in his shadow. I hope for his good that he can become the player that many thought he would become - and he is showing glimpses of great talent - but I also worry that he is just not meant for the Premier League and will go on to become a sensation whether in Spain or back in Italy. All in all best of luck to him as even though he might not perform the constant with him is that he gives his all every game and pressures like no one else in the team.

It's the fee.

Once he's shaken that off and relaxes and doesn't try to live up to it or feel he has to continually prove every second of every game why he cost that much, we'll see the true Lamela.

Slowly but surely he's simplifying his game. I'm sure it's being hammered into him to do so all the time. So little by little he'll get back to being the player he truly is.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Wasn't given the ball enough in my opinion. Played well, worked hard, but wanted to see him on the ball more. Not his fault but he was one of the few players today that I thought could change the game given a chance.
 
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