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Trix

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That's a really weird and actually slightly disturbing way to put it.

No partner, of either sex, should have to expect cheating just because the other person is rich or famous.

If someone chooses to stay with someone who has cheated then that's their decision to make, but to say they should expect and accept it is bizarre.
I'm not saying they should, I'm saying they do. I've heard so many stories over the years., Their wives almost always stick with them even the repeat offenders.
 

Atomic Blonde

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Do they accept it, or are they taken advantage of, manipulated, etc, etc....People who abuse their position to get what they want, and no not just footballers I concede that. Anyway, its a bigger topic.
THIS.
It never ceases to amaze me how many times women end up being somehow to blame for men's bad behaviour.

The guy is a cheating, lying scumbag and the idea of women 'throwing themselves' at him is laughable considering he actively puts himself in these situations by acting like a single guy frequenting nightclubs, most notably last year where he was filmed exposing himself to a woman:- https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...police-action-after-exposing-himself-in-a-bar

He also paid for two sex workers to attend a party during COVID lockdown, while also telling people on his social media to stay at home :-


He is the one who took the marriage vows and chose to have children, the only one responsible for his scumbag behaviour is himself, not the women.

If these rich/famous men have no self control and want to be promiscuous then they shouldn't get married and have kids, simple.
 

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His pullout game is woeful. We all know there isn’t a much better feeling in life than finishing inside a welcoming vagene, but surely if you’re cheating on your wife and refuse to wear a condom, you need to have the willpower to be able to pull out and finish on the bobs. Or inside the anoos.

Or mouth
Or back
Or belly button
Or face
Or toes

Basically anywhere except the baby maker.
He’s no King Arthur that’s for sure
 

McFlash

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That's a really weird and actually slightly disturbing way to put it.

No partner, of either sex, should have to expect cheating just because the other person is rich or famous.

If someone chooses to stay with someone who has cheated then that's their decision to make, but to say they should expect and accept it is bizarre.
Yeah, that whole way of thinking makes me quite sad.
What a horrible and shallow way to think/live and it's not a healthy situation to raise children in.
 

Trix

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THIS.
It never ceases to amaze me how many times women end up being somehow to blame for men's bad behaviour.

The guy is a cheating, lying scumbag and the idea of women 'throwing themselves' at him is laughable considering he actively puts himself in these situations by acting like a single guy frequenting nightclubs, most notably last year where he was filmed exposing himself to a woman:- https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...police-action-after-exposing-himself-in-a-bar

He also paid for two sex workers to attend a party during COVID lockdown, while also telling people on his social media to stay at home :-


He is the one who took the marriage vows and chose to have children, the only one responsible for his scumbag behaviour is himself, not the women.

If these rich/famous men have no self control and want to be promiscuous then they shouldn't get married and have kids, simple.
There is a very easy solution the first time it happens and certainly the second, let alone third and fourth. Yet instead they forgive and carry on, why?


I read something not too long ago that showed men were more likely to cheat than women in general. It went on to say it was the other way around between the ages of 20 and 30 with women being more likely. The numbers swing to quite a lot towards men when they were older and more successful it was more likely the older the guy got, the more money they had the more likely they'd cheat, because the more money and success meant more opportunity.

You can say it's laughable to say women throw themselves at them, but stick a few Premier league players in any nightclub in the country and watch how many young girls are all over them.

Of course he's a scumbag for doing it, you won't find me disagreeing with that, but she's an idiot for putting up with it.
 

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Not just limited to footballers though is it. High value sports players in all sports, Movie stars, Musicians(famous ones) etc etc, take your pick. Fact is high value men(from a women's POV) have tons of options throwing themselves at them all the time, and a lot of them will cheat.

I'm not saying it's right or clever, I'm saying generally speaking these women know what they are signing up for, and if they want to keep the status they have for being with these men they accept it.

in manchester the girls in clubs have little black books with info on players.

kids get targeted from 15 yrs old

during the Jenny Thomas days, players would turn up at Bolton from Blackburn with envelopes of cash to give to a player who was seeing the girl they had seen the previous night.

im sure it’s got better, the players would share women
 

Atomic Blonde

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There is a very easy solution the first time it happens and certainly the second, let alone third and fourth. Yet instead they forgive and carry on, why?


I read something not too long ago that showed men were more likely to cheat than women in general. It went on to say it was the other way around between the ages of 20 and 30 with women being more likely. The numbers swing to quite a lot towards men when they were older and more successful it was more likely the older the guy got, the more money they had the more likely they'd cheat, because the more money and success meant more opportunity.

You can say it's laughable to say women throw themselves at them, but stick a few Premier league players in any nightclub in the country and watch how many young girls are all over them.

Of course he's a scumbag for doing it, you won't find me disagreeing with that, but she's an idiot for putting up with it.
That's an entirely different subject and is often for similar reasons why some people stay in abusive relationships = low self esteem, they don't believe they deserve better from a relationship, believing the lies their partner tells them about changing, staying together because of the children, not wanting to be a single parent (as it's normally the woman who will do the majority of child care duties), being financially dependent on their partner etc etc.

Regardless of that, apportioning the blame to the partner who is continually cheated on rather than the cheater is not the right take.

And, as mentioned previously, nightclubs are traditionally environments where young, single people go to socialise and potentially hook up with other single people...so, again, why does a married man with kids continually leave them at home to go clubbing?

Look at Harry Kane, one of the richest and most famous footballers in the world, says himself he never goes to nightclubs because he prefers to spend time with his wife and children.

Nobody is forcing these married men to a) go to nightclubs or b) cheat on their wives and I find it quite disturbing that someone would continually absolve them of responsibility as though these 'poor men' have no will power or self control?
 
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McFlash

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That's an entirely different subject and is often for similar reasons why some people stay in abusive relationships = low self esteem, they don't believe they deserve better from a relationship, believing the lies their partner tells them about changing, staying together because of the children, not wanting to be a single parent (as it's normally the woman who will do the majority of child care duties), being financially dependent on their partner etc etc.

And, as mentioned previously, nightclubs are traditionally environments where young, single people go to socialise and potentially hook up with other single people...so, again, why does a married man with kids continually leave them at home to go clubbing?

Look at Harry Kane, one of the richest and most famous footballers in the world, says himself he never goes to nightclubs because he prefers to spend time with his wife and children.

Nobody is forcing these married men to a) go to nightclubs or b) cheat on their wives and I find it quite disturbing that someone would continually absolve them of responsibility as though these 'poor men' have no will power or self control?
There's no excusing the behaviour and there's nobody to blame apart from the man.
It's a matter of respect and decency.
 

Trix

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That's an entirely different subject and is often for similar reasons why some people stay in abusive relationships = low self esteem, they don't believe they deserve better from a relationship, believing the lies their partner tells them about changing, staying together because of the children, not wanting to be a single parent (as it's normally the woman who will do the majority of child care duties), being financially dependent on their partner etc etc.

Regardless of that, apportioning the blame to the partner who is continually cheated on rather than the cheater is not the right take.

And, as mentioned previously, nightclubs are traditionally environments where young, single people go to socialise and potentially hook up with other single people...so, again, why does a married man with kids continually leave them at home to go clubbing?

Look at Harry Kane, one of the richest and most famous footballers in the world, says himself he never goes to nightclubs because he prefers to spend time with his wife and children.

Nobody is forcing these married men to a) go to nightclubs or b) cheat on their wives and I find it quite disturbing that someone would continually absolve them of responsibility as though these 'poor men' have no will power or self control?
I'm not blaming her, he's 100% to blame. I'm asking why she's stayed with him for so long?

For some of these women it's 100% about the lifestyle that being a footballers wife provides. It's the photoshoots and Cartier kitting them out for red carpet events, the social media following they'd have never got without their partner/husband. It's not all of them, but it's certainly a decent number. Like I said some of the stories I've heard about footballers and their relationships, I'm pretty damn sure this is the case.

There are far more attractive women out there than there are extremely rich celebrity men.
 

Dunc2610

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I'm not blaming her, he's 100% to blame. I'm asking why she's stayed with him for so long?

For some of these women it's 100% about the lifestyle that being a footballers wife provides. It's the photoshoots and Cartier kitting them out for red carpet events, the social media following they'd have never got without their partner/husband. It's not all of them, but it's certainly a decent number. Like I said some of the stories I've heard about footballers and their relationships, I'm pretty damn sure this is the case.

There are far more attractive women out there than there are extremely rich celebrity men.
The insta message the 'other' woman put out was quite interesting. He essentially said there was never a relationship and it was just a shag! Not quite how she saw it after years of seeing each other and messaging!
 

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There is a very easy solution the first time it happens and certainly the second, let alone third and fourth. Yet instead they forgive and carry on, why?


I read something not too long ago that showed men were more likely to cheat than women in general. It went on to say it was the other way around between the ages of 20 and 30 with women being more likely. The numbers swing to quite a lot towards men when they were older and more successful it was more likely the older the guy got, the more money they had the more likely they'd cheat, because the more money and success meant more opportunity.

You can say it's laughable to say women throw themselves at them, but stick a few Premier league players in any nightclub in the country and watch how many young girls are all over them.

Of course he's a scumbag for doing it, you won't find me disagreeing with that, but she's an idiot for putting up with it.
Bit like Mason Greenwood’s partner. Now got a baby to the man who supposedly tried to rape her.
 

dagraham

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Putting aside Walker’s extra marital activities for a moment, I thought the booing of him by our fans the other night was a bit pathetic.
 

parj

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That's an entirely different subject and is often for similar reasons why some people stay in abusive relationships = low self esteem, they don't believe they deserve better from a relationship, believing the lies their partner tells them about changing, staying together because of the children, not wanting to be a single parent (as it's normally the woman who will do the majority of child care duties), being financially dependent on their partner etc etc.

Regardless of that, apportioning the blame to the partner who is continually cheated on rather than the cheater is not the right take.

And, as mentioned previously, nightclubs are traditionally environments where young, single people go to socialise and potentially hook up with other single people...so, again, why does a married man with kids continually leave them at home to go clubbing?

Look at Harry Kane, one of the richest and most famous footballers in the world, says himself he never goes to nightclubs because he prefers to spend time with his wife and children.

Nobody is forcing these married men to a) go to nightclubs or b) cheat on their wives and I find it quite disturbing that someone would continually absolve them of responsibility as though these 'poor men' have no will power or self control?

I agree with this. My wife and I discussed this after someone else famous was caught. She said if it was me, she would forgive me, and I called her stupid for it. Anyone who cheats and is forgiven, has a licence to do it again. They just know how to hide it better.

Also, there are plenty of women marrying footballers for their lifestyle. It's losing that lifestyle that scares people. Sometimes they need to just walkaway. Sometimes its just a mutual marriage of convenience.
 

bomberH

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Putting aside Walker’s extra marital activities for a moment, I thought the booing of him by our fans the other night was a bit pathetic.
He got applause from east and south. He only got booed when he dived in his own area to win a free kick late in the second half. I couldn’t see if it was a dive but it looked it. He got a few boo’s and that was it. Nothing too harsh from what I saw. Unless I missed something.
 

Dunc2610

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I agree with this. My wife and I discussed this after someone else famous was caught. She said if it was me, she would forgive me, and I called her stupid for it. Anyone who cheats and is forgiven, has a licence to do it again. They just know how to hide it better.

Also, there are plenty of women marrying footballers for their lifestyle. It's losing that lifestyle that scares people. Sometimes they need to just walkaway. Sometimes its just a mutual marriage of convenience.
The women get in to a lifestyle its probably quite difficult to get out of, having three kids with someone then having to go make a life for yourself, regardless of the CM payments would never be easy.
 

Trix

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The women get in to a lifestyle its probably quite difficult to get out of, having three kids with someone then having to go make a life for yourself, regardless of the CM payments would never be easy.
She'd get a lot more than just child maintenance in a divorce that has seen her husband splattered all over the tabloids for shagging everything that moves.
 

Trix

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I agree with this. My wife and I discussed this after someone else famous was caught. She said if it was me, she would forgive me, and I called her stupid for it. Anyone who cheats and is forgiven, has a licence to do it again. They just know how to hide it better.

Also, there are plenty of women marrying footballers for their lifestyle. It's losing that lifestyle that scares people. Sometimes they need to just walkaway. Sometimes its just a mutual marriage of convenience.
This.
 

Dunc2610

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She'd get a lot more than just child maintenance in a divorce that has seen her husband splattered all over the tabloids for shagging everything that moves.
Sorry, wasn't just referring to her, other women trapped in the lifestyle with cheating partners. She's potentially in a beneficial position (as much as it can be seen as beneficial).
 
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