Kyle Walker

[Ron Burgundy]

Am disappointed that Iheanacho is not part of this. If we had interest surely that would have come out by now

 

[thebenjamin]

Am disappointed that Iheanacho is not part of this. If we had interest surely that would have come out by now

Pretty clear we have no interest in Iheanacho.

 

[danielneeds]

Pretty clear we have no interest in Iheanacho.

Or Iheanacho wants to go somewhere where he's first choice or at least has the chance to fight for first choice No 9.

 

[thebenjamin]

Or Iheanacho wants to go somewhere where he's first choice or at least has the chance to fight for first choice No 9.

No ITK info of any interest at all in him though?

 

[danielneeds]

No ITK info of any interest at all in him though?

Yeah that could be because we don't rate him, or we know he wants to be a starter, and is asking for big wages.

 

[thebenjamin]

Yeah that could be because we don't rate him, or we know he wants to be a starter, and is asking for big wages.

Either way, we're not trying to sign him

 

[yanno]

If the following is correct, then Levy getting £45 million immediately (rather than the usual instalments over 3-4 seasons) is almost as big an achievement as the world record for a FB transfer fee.

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The Times understands that City have agreed to pay Spurs an initial fee of £45 million. In 12 months’ time, City will pay the London club an instalment of £5 million, with another £4 million due in add-ons

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

To get this thread back on topic, it wouldn't hurt to rehash this:

 

[matthew.absurdum]

If the following is correct, then Levy getting £45 million immediately (rather than the usual instalments over 3-4 seasons) is almost as big an achievement as the world record for a FB transfer fee.

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The Times understands that City have agreed to pay Spurs an initial fee of £45 million. In 12 months’ time, City will pay the London club an instalment of £5 million, with another £4 million due in add-ons

Agree. This is very successful. Receiving money upfront can boost our transfer activity immediately (because we also buy players with instalments!)

 

[yanno]

Agree. This is very successful. Receiving money upfront can boost our transfer activity immediately (because we also buy players with instalments!)

Yup - reports suggest the horrific £30 mlllion for Sissoko was 5 yearly instalments of £6 milllion, whereas if The Times is correct, we've already banked £45 million for Walker.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Utter disaster? Listen to yourself. However you rate Walker, we just got a world record fee for a player who wasn't in our starting XI at the end of the season. It can't even remotely be described as a disaster.

From a financial standpoint of course it's not a disaster, but seeing as I won't get be getting a cheque in the post I'm judging it on solely a footballing view.

We're not going to be relegated because of it but football is small margins at times. What if we struggle at RB this season with the bigger Wembley pitch. What if this sale has weakened us as a team overall and at the same time strengthened City in an area they were desperate for quality in? What if this small margin is the difference between us winning the league or them winning the league. That in my eyes would be a disaster.

Pointless predicting anything I know, maybe all will be good but it's really gutting losing part of what is the best team I've ever seen us have. A team if kept together in my opinion would win the league. We now have a question mark over a position and it's disappointing.

 

[Maxtremist]

From a financial standpoint of course it's not a disaster, but seeing as I won't get be getting a cheque in the post I'm judging it on solely a footballing view.

We're not going to be relegated because of it but football is small margins at times. What if we struggle at RB this season with the bigger Wembley pitch. What if this sale has weakened us as a team overall and at the same time strengthened City in an area they were desperate for quality in? What if this small margin is the difference between us winning the league or them winning the league. That in my eyes would be a disaster.

Pointless predicting anything I know, maybe all will be good but it's really gutting losing part of what is the best team I've ever seen us have. A team if kept together in my opinion would win the league. We now have a question mark over a position and it's disappointing.

I'm not saying you're wrong as such, but by that same token what if Walker's best days were past him and Poch saw that? What if what Poch has planned for the future he sees Trippier or Walker-Peters as a better option long term? There's a lot of possibilities which is why I certainly wouldn't call it a disaster.

Upsetting or maybe at most a mistake maybe. Not what I'd call it but I get that. But a disaster? I think that's a bit too far on this one.

 

[St José Dominguez]

I'm not saying you're wrong as such, but by that same token what if Walker's best days were past him and Poch saw that? What if what Poch has planned for the future he sees Trippier or Walker-Peters as a better option long term? There's a lot of possibilities which is why I certainly wouldn't call it a disaster.

Upsetting or maybe at most a mistake maybe. Not what I'd call it but I get that. But a disaster? I think that's a bit too far on this one.

His best days obviously weren't behind him with him being deservedly in team of the year. He's 27, doubt he's gonna lose any pace for 2/3 years or so. Can't comment on KWP but I genuinely don't believe for a second Trippier would've ended the season first choice if Walker hadn't fallen out with Poch.

One of my favourite aspects of this team was the combination of Rose pace on left and Walkers pace on the right. I get a lot of people don't rate him seemingly that highly, personally I do. I don't think there'd be this kind of sentiment/acceptance if it was other first team players, for whatever reason Walker doesn't seem to have ever gotten much love from many many Spurs fans.

 

[GMI]

Good article on the Guardian currently on the Walker deal and crazy prices in general.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/14/kyle-walker-manchester-city-madness-premier-league

"Even within football’s gilded bubble, though, this is a deal that stands out. Walker is 27. He’s only ever scored five goals (now, perhaps this is a sign that football has at last realised that goals are not the be all and end all of a player’s worth, but the point is that Walker is not merely not Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo, he is not even Stuart Pearce or Steve Nicol). He’s won only 27 England caps (he may be the clear first-choice right-back now but a year ago nobody would have been overly concerned if Roy Hodgson had preferred Nathaniel Clyne). And yet now he’s the most expensive defender in history".

 

[Maxtremist]

His best days obviously weren't behind him with him being deservedly in team of the year. He's 27, doubt he's gonna lose any pace for 2/3 years or so. Can't comment on KWP but I genuinely don't believe for a second Trippier would've ended the season first choice if Walker hadn't fallen out with Poch.

One of my favourite aspects of this team was the combination of Rose pace on left and Walkers pace on the right. I get a lot of people don't rate him seemingly that highly, personally I do. I don't think there'd be this kind of sentiment/acceptance if it was other first team players, for whatever reason Walker doesn't seem to have ever gotten much love from many many Spurs fans.

I never said his best days are behind him, more just what if?

Basically I'm just questioning the use of the word disaster. I think that's too server a word/reaction to this. Mistake? Maybe. Time will tell. Disaster? No. It's not THAT bad. I think you're hard proved to say it's THAT bad.

For example, Yes, I don't think Trippier is as good but it's not a MASSIVE step down or anything like that. Thus I think 'disaster' was too much.

I'm very neutral on this sale. I would have loved to have kept him for sure but I'm not distraught or anything that he's gone. He's been a key player to our team so it'll be a loss but one we can recover from/work around. Others are 'pro' this deal for the fee and what it could mean for the club and others are negative for letting a key part of our club go for sure... but I really don't think this falls into the 'disaster' category.

 

[THOWIG]

With the financial situation we are in currently it's clear we have to sell to buy. Walker at 50 mil is not to be sniffed at especially as it might enable us to buy 2 or 3 players.

 

[St José Dominguez]

I never said his best days are behind him, more just what if?

Basically I'm just questioning the use of the word disaster. I think that's too server a word/reaction to this. Mistake? Maybe. Time will tell. Disaster? No. It's not THAT bad. I think you're hard proved to say it's THAT bad.

For example, Yes, I don't think Trippier is as good but it's not a MASSIVE step down or anything like that. Thus I think 'disaster' was too much.

I'm very neutral on this sale. I would have loved to have kept him for sure but I'm not distraught or anything that he's gone. He's been a key player to our team so it'll be a loss but one we can recover from/work around. Others are 'pro' this deal for the fee and what it could mean for the club and others are negative for letting a key part of our club go for sure... but I really don't think this falls into the 'disaster' category.

I'm just a big fan of his. I'm sure people would say selling Dier to a rival is a disaster or Toby or Eriksen. It may well turn out to be fine or better I just think it's a massive shame and wish we hadn't had to/chosen to break up a part of this wonderful team.

We won't know the full impact until May next year when we can look retrospectively at the season.

 

[Sarsipius]

There's no sugar coating this. Walker was a huge asset and a big part of our attacking dynamic.

He left for the money and a different challenge after a long stint at the club, having finally fulfilled the huge potential he always had.

Can't blame him too much I guess but still a kick in the balls if Trippier/Perreira don't match up to his performances.

Hope it doesn't have a knock on effect for the rest of the lads but the majority are much younger than him still and can afford to keep the Poch project going. Sooner or later though we might need a mega takeover to prevent more players leaving for the big bucks.

Time for Tripps and KWP to step up.

 

[SpursDave88]

City have done a number on us in my opinion. They turned his head forcing us to drop him. They forced our hand by throwing money at our player and have got their man. We are now in the unenviable position of having weakened our team and now everyone will know about the money burning a hole in our pockets.

As others have said, saying retrospectively that he isn't that great when before City turned his head he had started every game when for us in by far the best Spurs side I have seen is ridiculous.

As a result of this transfer Man City are in a stronger position than they were before and we are in a weaker one. Terrible business any way you slice it. I now expect the club PR to go in to overdrive to try and demonstrate this sale has been a good decision.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

City have done a number on us in my opinion. They turned his head forcing us to drop him. They forced our hand by throwing money at our player and have got their man. We are now in the unenviable position of having weakened our team and now everyone will know about the money burning a hole in our pockets.

As others have, saying retrospectively that he isn't that great when before City turned his head he had started every game when fir in the bu far the best Spurs side I have seen is ridiculous.

As a result of this transfer Man City are in a stronger position than they were before and we are in a weaker one. Terrible business any way you slice it. I know expect the club PR to go in to overdrive to try and demonstrate this sale has been a good decision.

You didn't spend much time in the match day threads did you?