Kim Min-Jae

[razzmaster]

You are going back a bit with the players you have listed. Tell me about successful loans of youth players over the last 5 years?

KWP got a loan move to a Premiership club, and got first team minutes. Young English players with a decent amount of Perm minutes can be sold for a good price. The easiest way to give players Premiership time is to play them, rather than loan them out.

Talented players have noticed what being loaned around lower division teams does to your career and are increasing taking matters into their own hands by refusing to sign contracts with parent clubs and leaving as free agents. If a club is willing to pay a transfer fee for you they are probably more willing to invest in your future than somewhere where you are just a temporary loanee.

You mean the last 5 years where Poch chose not to loan out youngsters? That's why I went back further because the loan market clearly does work, Poch just didn't use it.

For other teams Ben White, Dean Henderson, Tammy Abrahams, Fikayo Tomori, Rhian Brewster, Jonjoe Kenny, Mason Holgate, Mason Mount, Harvey Barnes, Reece James, Ethan Ampadu, Reiss Nelson, Grady Diangana, Ade Lookman, Harry Wilson, Eddie Nketiah, Tyrone Mings, Alex Sorloth, Angelino, Kieran Dowell, Matheus Perreira, Jack Harrison and Pervis Estupinan have all recently been out on loan and have enhanced their reputations.

Is that enough players to show that their is a benefit in loaning young players out?

 

[AJW]

Happy to be corrected but doesn’t seem to be starting or on the bench for his club today? May be mistaken in the game I am looking at!

 

[rossdapep]

Happy to be corrected but doesn’t seem to be starting or on the bench for his club today? May be mistaken in the game I am looking at!

Wasn't he in quarantine only recently? May not be up to speed.

 

[DiVaio]

Happy to be corrected but doesn’t seem to be starting or on the bench for his club today? May be mistaken in the game I am looking at!

He was in quarantine until 20th July so he's not fit

 

[Snarfalicious]

He apparently also made some remarks about his teammates and sounds like he was held out after the quarantine stuff, too, until he apologized. Read it in some article today, and it was mentioned that this was a reason why he wouldn't be coming to us, which made no sense at all.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

He apparently also made some remarks about his teammates and sounds like he was held out after the quarantine stuff, too, until he apologized. Read it in some article today, and it was mentioned that this was a reason why he wouldn't be coming to us, which made no sense at all.

Dodgy article agree its a bit weird, on another note one of his team mates he apparently said has def issue is Wang Gang. just a quality name.

PS Kim mi jae is not involved with the squad today, game is being played right now, its HT right now

 

[yankspurs]

Read it in some article today, and it was mentioned that this was a reason why he wouldn't be coming to us, which made no sense at all.

He apparently also made some remarks about his teammates

 

[Snarfalicious]

Are you saying you agree that that's a valid reason when our manager does this after every match we lose and also told his players to be, well, yeah?

 

[yankspurs]

Are you saying you agree that that's a valid reason when our manager does this after every match we lose and also told his players to be, well, yeah?

A player shouldnt talk shit about his teammates

 

[Snarfalicious]

A player shouldnt talk shit about his teammates

Totally agree. So you're agreeing that's a reason why we wouldn't go for him?

 

[Cochise]

Koch being touted for near enough the same amount. I think I'd rather him tbh.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Koch being touted for near enough the same amount. I think I'd rather him tbh.

 

[Chello90]

Last time I saw this was now 4 errors and also a penalty conceded (although not sure if that's included within the 4 errors)

 

[midoNdefoe]

finally, a trippier replacement...

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Last time I saw this was now 4 errors and also a penalty conceded (although not sure if that's included within the 4 errors)

We already have Dier for that " quality " stat ....

So has it come to this, its between a Koch and a Min-jae..........

 

[Cochraam]

I like the idea of signing Kim Min-Jae, so I hope we can pull it off. There are obvious concerns over the level he's been playing, but he also looks to have some solid physical and technical abilities. More than anything, he's the type of signing I think we should continue to make each year: young, high-risk & high-reward; he'd likely be on low-ish wages and even if he flopped, we'd probably not have to take a huge hit selling him.

To play devil's advocate, though, I wonder if we should take another look at Cameron Carter-Vickers. He's still young, and has had a number Championship loans in recent years, most recently looking fantastic at Luton. To me, his biggest shortcomings under Poch were recovery pace with a high-line and passing, but I'm not sure Jose emphasizes those skills as much. Obviously, a huge gulf between bottom of Championship and our aspirations, but we're talking about someone who realistically will compete for 4th-choice CB. I suspect Championship is about his level and he'll be used to raise funds (I would prefer to sell him and bring in Kim Min-Jae), but if we are really broke, I think we could do worse than giving CCV a go and using the 15 million for Kim Min-Jae on a higher priority need.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I like the idea of signing Kim Min-Jae, so I hope we can pull it off. There are obvious concerns over the level he's been playing, but he also looks to have some solid physical and technical abilities. More than anything, he's the type of signing I think we should continue to make each year: young, high-risk & high-reward; he'd likely be on low-ish wages and even if he flopped, we'd probably not have to take a huge hit selling him.

To play devil's advocate, though, I wonder if we should take another look at Cameron Carter-Vickers. He's still young, and has had a number Championship loans in recent years, most recently looking fantastic at Luton. To me, his biggest shortcomings under Poch were recovery pace with a high-line and passing, but I'm not sure Jose emphasizes those skills as much. Obviously, a huge gulf between bottom of Championship and our aspirations, but we're talking about someone who realistically will compete for 4th-choice CB. I suspect Championship is about his level and he'll be used to raise funds (I would prefer to sell him and bring in Kim Min-Jae), but if we are really broke, I think we could do worse than giving CCV a go and using the 15 million for Kim Min-Jae on a higher priority need.

Nice try, Daniel.

 

[DJS]

Going by Herc ITK along with Hojbjerg Min-Jae seems to be our other in progress signing.

Seems a risky signing though.

 

[rossdapep]

Going by Herc ITK along with Hojbjerg Min-Jae seems to be our other in progress signing.

Seems a risky signing though.

If he was to come in as an immediate starter and we were putting all our hope on him then yeah it would be.

But we have Toby, Dier and Sanchez as established picks and Tanganga developing.

So he's coming into an environment where he won't be under massive pressure to perform immediately.

I don't see it as a massive gamble.

A gamble may be spending 40m on some one like Upemecano as you'd expect a signing like that to be better than what you have and he'd need to justify it, and there's always a risk he'd struggle in a better league. Whereas Min Jae would be low key.

 

[Goobers]

Not so sure about the risk. For a left sided centre back ( not left footed admittedly) which he seems to be the money does not seem excessive. In terms of settling in we can afford to give him EL game time and allow him to adapt culturally to the game in England. Good age for development, good commercial interest from the Asian market. Physically impressive. I’m
Not sure this is a risky signing to be honest. This seems very sensible considering what for example Utd paid for a mediocre left sided centre back last summer ....