Juande Ramos ready to dismantle Tottenham - from Telegraph.co.uk

[yanno]

Berbati should be perma banned as he is definitely a wind up merchant.

Berbati does like the odd wind up, but none of us are obliged to take the bait.

Berbati also knows a lot about his favourite player, and it is possible to have intelligent discussions with him.

So, rather than perma banning him, it's surely easier to ignore his obvious wind ups, and engage with him when he has something worthwhile to say.

 

[Berbati]

Berbati should be perma banned as he is definitely a wind up merchant.

For those who are buiding castles in the air, I may appear as a "wind up merchant". But I'm not. Berbatov is leaving in the summer, you can quote me. Buy, buy.

 

[yanno]

For those who are buiding castles in the air, I may appear as a "wind up merchant". But I'm not. Berbatov is leaving in the summer, you can quote me. Buy, buy.

Berbati - I hope that is a wind up.

Surely Berba can see that Ramos is a winning coach, that we have money to spend, and that we will attract three or four top players to the club over the summer?

You and I have discussed Berba's contract demands before. I'm sure Levy will make Berba an offer he can accept.

Why would anyone want to play for an Italian club like Milan at the moment? Serie A is in near terminal decline.

Given the way financial markets are currently tanking (Bear Stearns has just had to be bailed out by JP Morgan and the Fed), Man Utd will shortly suffer financial collapse because the Glazers took the club over on credit swap-type paper which is currently toxic. So, Man Utd will not be able to match our asking price.

I could see Berba going to Real Madrid. Which I'd hate. However, in this scenario, Ramos knows so much about Spanish football that he would probably be able to secure us a huge cash deal plus some talented players.

 

[rez9000]

Berbs is not going anywhere. The article says that at 27 he wants CL football. First of (as mentioned), he's had CL football. And second, 27 is not old for a footballer anymore. Henry went to Barca aged 30, and Berbatov is certainly in the same league ability-wise.

We're going back to the whole 'body-language' bollocks from earlier in the season. We see his temprament on thei pitch and his frustration when things don't go well and everyone wants to trot out the 'disatisfied with life at WHL' line.

No matter how ill-thought out the article is, there is a grain of truth in it. I believe there will be a fair clear-out of players at the end of the season. None of us would be surprised to see Robinson and Chimbonda go. One could probably add the likes of Lee to that list. Perhaps even less likely candidates like Dawson, KPB and Tainio (bear inmind this is me speculating about, not advocating player departures). With players like that going, I think terming it a dismantling isn't that strong a word.

If I had to draw up a list of the 1st team regulars that (in my personal opinion only) are cast-iron keepers, it's fairly short:

Bale;
Hutton;
Woodgate;
King;
Jenas;
Malbranque;
Lennon;
Keane;
Berbatov;

That for me would form the core of our team next season. No doubt there will be many other players who we'll keep (O'Hara springs to mind as a keeper too, just not set in stone), but we still need signings just to make up a single 11. Additionally, we'll also need some signings to make up a second string side too. So perhaps we are in for a dismantling of the squad with a large number of players being thanked for their services and dispensed with. Anyway, all this is conjecture. The most important thing about signings in my opinion is not necessarily who we get, but when we get them. It's imperative to my mind that our signings be made early in the window, so Ramos, Poyet and Alvarez have a decent period in which to drill and train them for the new season. That and preseason friendlies against half-decent opposition.

 

[tommo84]

It appears we're back to the days when the press are claiming we have too many strikers one minute, and then claiming we're gonna sell ALL of them the next. Berba may want to leave, we may consider letting Bent go, but I would bet vast sums of money that AT LEAST one of those two is still a Spurs player come August.

The sale of Defoe leaves us on the look-out for one attacking player in the summer already, and anyone who leaves will need to be replaced. So does anyone really believe that the club are gonna allow ourselves to be needing to recruit THREE new strikers in the summer?

 

[diegooners]

35 goals in 56 games or there abouts.

Dead cold.

I cant believe u are even suggesting u think Keano would go.

Where is ur loyality man?:bang:

Sorry you obviously didn't pick up on the sarcasm. I was just taking the piss out of the nature of the article.

 

[SpurSince57]

It appears we're back to the days when the press are claiming we have too many strikers one minute, and then claiming we're gonna sell ALL of them the next. Berba may want to leave, we may consider letting Bent go, but I would bet vast sums of money that AT LEAST one of those two is still a Spurs player come August.

The sale of Defoe leaves us on the look-out for one attacking player in the summer already, and anyone who leaves will need to be replaced. So does anyone really believe that the club are gonna allow ourselves to be needing to recruit THREE new strikers in the summer?

Why? We signed Bent in the belief that Defoe would be going in the summer, and the certainty that Mido was on his way out. It's simply impossible to keep four top-class strikers happy unless you go in for Rafa-style rotation, and even Rafa has given up on Rafa-style rotation.

 

[Black]

They are both probably quite true, we wont sell Lennon but he knows he needs to improve, we wont sell Bent even though he been shit, he can still come good.

Don't think Berbs will leave, i think we have a squad capable of challenging for the premier league if we are more consistent, we play good against the big teams because we know how good they can be but when we play lesser sides we often underestimate them

 

[lukespurs7]

This thread has more irony than... something with a lot of irony in it. Tower Bridge?

There's a similar article in the Grauniad today, with the following tipped to leave:

Robinson
Cerny
Chimbonda
Kaboul
Rocha
Lee
Assou-Ekotto
Stalteri
Gardner
Lennon
Bent

The 'keepers' are Keane, Woodgate, Hutton, King, Jenas, Huddlestone and Berbatov.

All fine EXCEPT!!!!!! KEEP Kaboul,Lennon and Bent.

 

[General Levy]

For those who are buiding castles in the air, I may appear as a "wind up merchant". But I'm not. Berbatov is leaving in the summer, you can quote me. Bye, bye.

How do you actually know this for sure?

 

[stemark44]

I don't expect wholesale changes to the team but I do think we still need to get a new keeper,a left winger and a right winger/striker.

 

[Johnspur]

I wonder how Ramos will want/expect us to play next season. When he was at Sevilla didn't he use attacking wing backs? Did he use a 4-4-2 formation, or was it slighly different?

 

[NeverRed06]

personally id get rid off rocha, gardner, lee, bent, assou-ekotto, boateng and buy quality players such as diego, van der vaart, quaresma and not players for the future which we have done in the past, we want to progress now not in 5-10 years time.

we need to buy players who would get into the top 4 teams

 

[yanno]

I wonder how Ramos will want/expect us to play next season. When he was at Sevilla didn't he use attacking wing backs? Did he use a 4-4-2 formation, or was it
slighly different?

Johnspur - the thread I've linked to below is about how Ramos likes to play - direct from his Sevilla and now Spurs coaching colleague, Marcos Alvarez. In summary, Don Juande likes to attack, with wingers and a compact team.

Imo, based on Sevilla and the signings of Hutton and Gilberto, and the selection by Ramos of Bale at LB (not LM), he also likes attacking FBs. But not wing backs.

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=28643

 

[DogsOfWar]

Personally I don't think there will be wholesale changes.

The weakest links I see currently when we field a full strength side are Robinson and Malbranque so I would expect to see those remedied.

We need a new starting keeper as Robbo does not have the all-round game necessary at the highest level. Personally I'd like to keep him and see if his weaknesses can be improved as there are very few better reflex stoppers and kickers around but I'm not sure he could accept this.

As for Malbranque it's not his fault he's played out of position and he's pretty much my player of the season due to this. His performances have almost papered over the cracks that are our left midfield issues but even then there are a lot of ifs and buts.

Is Ekotto good enough to play LB, is Bale seen as a left midfielder, is Rose seen as a potential starter within the next couple of seasons? If the answer to a couple of these is yes then Gilberto/O'Hara can provide cover for both positions and we may buy no-one on that side. If the answer is no then we could end up buying two.

With Malbranque and Lennon playing we still lack decent delivery into the box both from open play and set pieces.
The return of Bale would certainly solve this problem but, as shown this season, putting all your eggs in one basket can be a mistake so I wouldn't be surprised if the rumours about Bentley were true as he could solve this problem as well as providing cover/replacement/an alternative to Lennon.

With decent delivery from both sides we'll see a different Darren Bent so assuming Berbatov doesn't go I don't think there will be any changes there.

As a result I think we may only see two new additions to the starting eleven (keeper and LM) and just one starter/sub (RM).

 

[Johnspur]

Johnspur - the thread I've linked to below is about how Ramos likes to play - direct from his Sevilla and now Spurs coaching colleague, Marcos Alvarez. In summary, Don Juande likes to attack, with wingers and a compact team.

Imo, based on Sevilla and the signings of Hutton and Gilberto, and the selection by Ramos of Bale at LB (not LM), he also likes attacking FBs. But not wing backs.

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=28643

Cheers for the thread link Yanno :up:

 

[longdistancespursfan]

Why? We signed Bent in the belief that Defoe would be going in the summer, and the certainty that Mido was on his way out. It's simply impossible to keep four top-class strikers happy unless you go in for Rafa-style rotation, and even Rafa has given up on Rafa-style rotation.

i think we do need 4 strikers capable of playing in the premiership, not sure if any of the lads in the ressies could step up but if not i think we need to sign a FOURTH choice striker, i think we should look either in the division(s) below or abroad for someone who would cost 2-4mill and will be more happy to bide his time. I would prefer our signings for the first team to be experienced international players but with us wanting a back up for striker i would like to see a young player brought in.

 

[tottenham4life]

To be honest i think we all know that JR will change things big time when the season is over