Jermain Defoe (to Portsmouth)

[18Klinsmann]

It's very simple: 9 million now - -increasing by 3 million for every goal he scores against Spurs. The 12 million mentioned is for the inevitable one he will crack into the roof at the lane this season.

 

[Robbiepope]

Oh JD :violin:, I am going to miss you, such a good player, i wish you was still a spurs player....


Anyway, anyone think we could save our pennys and get David Villa in the summer!? That would be awsome

 

[Legend10]

Christ, anyone would think we'd sold Lineker and Greaves in a double deal to Arsenal.

This is a positive move for a player that wouldn't sign a fupping contract and fight his way into the team.

Yeah he made the right media noises, thanks mostly to the influence of Sky Andrew (I fully expect), but actually when it boils down to it, he would have happily taken a big chunk of money to leave on a Bosman.

Is it acceptable to start Jermain Defoe, He's A Gooner chants now without fear of people telling me otherwise? He is, you know.

I've no doubt he'll go on to good things with Pompey but we're kidding ourselves that he's improved from his Spurs experience. He's the same kid that came to us from West Ham, has not improved/changed his game for all those years. He showed flashes of it in his first season, that he could be great, but he simply never fulfilled any potential that was given him by the pundits of this world.

I will miss him in a strange way and always remember him as a scorer of great goals, not a great goalscorer. [SS57 2005(?)]

Ciao.

In my opinion ill informed.

Firstly over the last 18 months Defoe has done nothing but try to fight his way into the team, he has done so without complaint, moaning or public protestations, he has been very professional despite the media trying to wind the situation up. Rather than Defoe being berated for this he should be congratulated and thanked for his conduct during his time at the club where he has always been gracious and complimentary despite his obvious frustrations in an industry full of egotistical wankers.

Secondly you say he would have happily taken a chunk of money and moved on a Bosman, well he didn't did he? If he was happy to do that and wait for his windfall he could easily have sat it out from now on in but he hasn't. He's gone undoubtedly for more money and has probably pocketed a lump to move on as well. But JD has gone to play football if the money was his primary consideration he would certainly still be a Spurs player this morning and would be biding his time to take the entire lump for himself.

It's funny how people praise Hutton for the loyalty he showed in not wanting to leave Rangers etc. When one of our own has showed some loyalty to our club some people just dismiss it rather than giving the guy a slap on the back and some well deserved praise. I saw Defoe interviewed on SSN last night and I've never seen a player so underwhelmed by a transfer, it's clear he liked the club and had alot of friends at Spurs and I should think in many ways he's a disappointed boy this morning, but that's football and I believe that the club made the right decision to take the money and all 3 parties will benefit from this transfer.

If you want to sing "Jermain Defoe, he's a gooner" that's up to you, personally I will stand and applaud a player who showed every respect to the club that I support.

Good luck JD

COYS

 

[Defsta]

:dance:

That's spamming and off topic post Jack. You should have started new thread for that as now you're going to get at least warning.

 

[Donki]

Id say round 9 million, and as has been said for a striker who hasn't been playing regularly game in game out for 2 seasons its a good price. 18 months isn't that long and the closer to the end of his contract he got this figure would have went down. He would have been allowed to talk to other clubs before the end of his contract, if he had of truely wanted to stay at Spurs the contract would have been signed a long time ago. And what "fan" on here can honestly say they think he should have got in the first team in front of Robbie and Berby?

I liked the lil guy but I'll wish him all the best, all the best and good luck.

P.S. Some people on here should really grow up and stop beliving everything a player says, I seen him being interveiwed on SSN and he didnt exactly look heart broken in his move. I'm just waiting for his slagging of Spurs to start.... hope it doesn't happen.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

What the hell? This thread's like Hotel California or something - i've tried to post, it just sits there, "waiting for Spurs Community". I tried to refresh, same thing. Tried to leave and... "waiting for Spurs Community..."

ARRRGH!!! You buggers trapped me in this twilight-zone of a thread! HELP MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

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[Rocksuperstar]

Sooo, this couldn't go in the Jermain Defoe thread, why?

:shrug:

And the reports range from £7m to £15m - take your pick

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Actually, seeing as this will eventually most likely be tidied up and moved to the JD thread, think i might have a little Spam :up:

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Times New]Robert Bosco and Rich Slingerland logrolling in our portable pond.

[/FONT]sweeet...

 

[tRiKS]

Even at 7m we’ve made our money on Defoe and got goals from him in the bargain.

You can forever be bitter when making comparisons to other fee’s compared to what we spent on Bent for instance, even 12m seems a shocking undervalue. Just ignore what other people went for if you can. We’ve not lost money, we paid him a decent but not stupid wage and he returned with goals and some important ones!!! Valuable points won that attributed to high league finishes and therefore ££££££££££ in PL prize money.

He was not getting games because what’s in front of him is better, we were not getting the best of him when he did play because he was lacking sharpness so a move and us getting money is best for everyone.

The significance of one of the strikers leaving before Berbatov and us not getting one in is encouraging for those of us who still think he’s staying beyond this season.

The very best of luck to JD.

 

[DC_Boy]

I reckon around £10m was the fee

 

[Rocksuperstar]

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=24828

:up:

 

[CosmicHotspur]

It was inevitable that Defoe would leave and sooner rather than later means less upheaval and unrest. Ramos has had enough time to assess him and has obviously decided that he isn't absolutely essential to the future of the team now being built.

A useful player, yes. A talented player, yes. A drastic loss, not really.

I sincerely wish him much success with this move (as long as he never scores against us!:roll

 

[DC_Boy]

I also agree with Triks that even if it was £7m - we've broke even - got a fair return on him playing wise for his wages - so asset wise and expenses v revenue wise we've done ok

but I still doubt he went for as low as £7m - - there were probably add ons etc to confuse the matter too

 

[Stoof]

In my opinion ill informed.

Firstly over the last 18 months Defoe has done nothing but try to fight his way into the team, he has done so without complaint, moaning or public protestations, he has been very professional despite the media trying to wind the situation up. Rather than Defoe being berated for this he should be congratulated and thanked for his conduct during his time at the club where he has always been gracious and complimentary despite his obvious frustrations in an industry full of egotistical wankers.

Sign a contract then. Prove you want to stay and fight. We're gonna disagree on this because we differ on our ratings of the player to start with. I'm not saying he kicked up a fuss, and I applaud him for not, I'm saying he handled the media very well. Emphasis on handled.

Never seemed to answer: "well, why don't you sign a contract?"

I suppose the retort to this is, well "I'm not guaranteed football" - and there we have our catch-22. No-one is guaranteed football and he stands less chance if he's not co-operating with those at the higher echelons of the club. So what to do? If he wanted to stay at Spurs, sign his contract and prove he could be a European-class striker for a team that's obviously going places then he could. He knew there was never a chance in hell we'd get Sol-ed again, so, pardon the fantastic use of English, he would get sold.

I knew this. He knew this.

Secondly you say he would have happily taken a chunk of money and moved on a Bosman, well he didn't did he? If he was happy to do that and wait for his windfall he could easily have sat it out from now on in but he hasn't. He's gone undoubtedly for more money and has probably pocketed a lump to move on as well. But JD has gone to play football if the money was his primary consideration he would certainly still be a Spurs player this morning and would be biding his time to take the entire lump for himself.

What would his worth be in 18 months if he trained with the Reserves? I disagree he could have sat it out. He would have ruined his England chances, and any chance of any Top 10 club wanting him after all that time out. Him not signing a contract and not wanting to move is surely the clearest sign that he would have taken his windfall.

It's funny how people praise Hutton for the loyalty he showed in not wanting to leave Rangers etc. When one of our own has showed some loyalty to our club some people just dismiss it rather than giving the guy a slap on the back and some well deserved praise. I saw Defoe interviewed on SSN last night and I've never seen a player so underwhelmed by a transfer, it's clear he liked the club and had alot of friends at Spurs and I should think in many ways he's a disappointed boy this morning, but that's football and I believe that the club made the right decision to take the money and all 3 parties will benefit from this transfer.

He had his chance to stay. Don't make it sound like we forced him out. Sign or be sold - he knew that.

If you want to sing "Jermain Defoe, he's a gooner" that's up to you, personally I will stand and applaud a player who showed every respect to the club that I support.

Good luck JD

No, it was more a comment on how the fans perceived him, over others - Christ even boo the manager when they took him off when he was completely ineffectual. His replacement ended up setting up both goals that we won the game with.

COYS

I agree.

My post was not to detract from his service to our club - but to point out that it's a bit over the top for our 4th choice striker. I don't dislike Defoe, but he had his choice to stay with us, I expect with a pay-rise too. [That's speculation though, so don't rip into that :lol:]

I'd also like you to explain why my first post was "ill-informed" - I don't think it is. Maybe the truth hurts, eh?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

In my opinion ill informed.

Firstly over the last 18 months Defoe has done nothing but try to fight his way into the team, he has done so without complaint, moaning or public protestations, he has been very professional despite the media trying to wind the situation up. Rather than Defoe being berated for this he should be congratulated and thanked for his conduct during his time at the club where he has always been gracious and complimentary despite his obvious frustrations in an industry full of egotistical wankers.

Secondly you say he would have happily taken a chunk of money and moved on a Bosman, well he didn't did he? If he was happy to do that and wait for his windfall he could easily have sat it out from now on in but he hasn't. He's gone undoubtedly for more money and has probably pocketed a lump to move on as well. But JD has gone to play football if the money was his primary consideration he would certainly still be a Spurs player this morning and would be biding his time to take the entire lump for himself.

It's funny how people praise Hutton for the loyalty he showed in not wanting to leave Rangers etc. When one of our own has showed some loyalty to our club some people just dismiss it rather than giving the guy a slap on the back and some well deserved praise. I saw Defoe interviewed on SSN last night and I've never seen a player so underwhelmed by a transfer, it's clear he liked the club and had alot of friends at Spurs and I should think in many ways he's a disappointed boy this morning, but that's football and I believe that the club made the right decision to take the money and all 3 parties will benefit from this transfer.

If you want to sing "Jermain Defoe, he's a gooner" that's up to you, personally I will stand and applaud a player who showed every respect to the club that I support.

Good luck JD

COYS

Agree with most of this. I think Defoe didn't always help himself. The first two years he was here he seemed obsessed by being in the England team and I think it affected his second & third seasons with us. His mind often seemed to be focused on England rather than us.

Ultimately I also think to get the best out of Defoe you need to play the right player next to him (an unselfish hold up guy - Defoe hit 22 goals the season he played with kanoute) in a Quinn/Phillips Heskey/Owen type way. If Pompey do this they will reap the reward.

Stoof also makes some fairish points. Sign the contract or you put the club in a difficult situation. Can see both sides.

 

[recklessyido]

I dont blame Defoe leaving, he was never going to start ahead of Keano and Berba.

Good luck to the lad.

 

[sloth]

All these ‘he’ll come back to haunt us’, ‘we’ll regret this’ and ‘we haven’t got a replacement’, ‘this is a money decision’ comments miss the point imo.

A number of people have been saying for a long time that Jermain is surplus to requirements. That’s not the same as saying he’s a poor striker, far from it, he’s one of the best, but it is the same as saying our options without him are virtually the same as our options with him.

Defoe’s main problem is a lack of versatility. He can’t play on his own up front (which, btw, is going to mean he'll see plenty of bench time at Portsmouth too; poor sod!) and he can’t partner each of the other strikers. Were he ahead of Keane in the pecking order this would be Keane’s problem instead. He lost the battle with Keane and once he did he was always going to be sold.

What Defoe did bring was a different type of threat and injury cover should two of our strikers get injured at the same time, but at £9m that’s a very expensive insurance policy. If insurance is the main priority then maybe there’s an argument to be made, but if resources are finite (and they are) then I think that money can be better invested on more important areas of the squad.

This is my analysis and I’ve stuck by it for a couple of years, with 18 months left on his contract, now was the time to sell and I think the club did very well to do so.

On a personal level and of lesser importance I also think the move was good for Defoe, it isn’t right that a striker of his calibre should languish on the bench and I wish him all the best for the future.

 

[Flatters]

That's spamming and off topic post Jack. You should have started new thread for that as now you're going to get at least warning.

No it's not. I'm celebrating that Defoe's been sold.

 

[ethanedwards]

What do you want? Spurs were not willing to use him for the purpose we bought him........to play in our forward line but it seems that we want to extract maximum 'value' for the bloke when we get rid of him. The casual way the club treated him under both regimes drove down his value because we did not play him! I find it sad that many people became preoccupied with a new contract when he still had one to 'play' for us for 18 months. Go on and do fantastically well JD our know nothing bean counters know nothing:evil:

Whilst I thank JD for his contribution whilst playing for THFC and wish him well for the future, the problem about playing him, basically he just fell short in what he could offer the team. Ramos, Jol,Sven, McClaren and now Capello weren't overly impressed. If he is as good as you think, for £7-9 mil you would have thought Fergie or somebody from the CL sides would have come in.

 

[johnmc]

I can only agree with sloth on his take on Defoe. He simply is not as good a player as Robbie Keane, So he was always going to play second fiddle to him. Pompey have got a good player no doubt about it, if they got him for £7m, as has been reported in some places, then they have got a bargain. We have got a few million for a player who looked to be running down his contract. Sorry to see him go, and he will definitely score goals, but the club had no choice really.