James Maddison

[mawspurs]

Exclusive: Spurs have "excellent" relations with agent of Leicester star

Tottenham are not currently in talks over a transfer move for Leicester City playmaker James Maddison, according to Fabrizio Romano.

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[Timberwolf]

You can. As you usual it was a complete lack of patience and context for our situation. Yes we had a bad couple of seasons but the wider picture was that we were building our infrastructure in order to allow us to consistently compete at the top of the league. That was always the plan.

Fans getting impatient and look at Leicester spending unsustainably and seeing them as the model just proves an ignorance or lack understanding for Levy’s long term vision. Many of us argued this very point at the time.


Agree with this. Just showed how many fans either didn’t understand, or were too impatient to see the long term vision of the club. many of us argued things would change when the stadium revenue started coming in. And here we are.

Spending unsustainably without being backed by some dodgy regime is always going to end badly. I get fans want short-term success but personally I’d rather know we will remain competitive, than be in leicesters position, who are clearly on a downward trajectory, with no way of progressing in the next few seasons.

I agree to an extent - some fans were definitely being impatient and catastrophising (shock horror!) but pre-Paratici the club was making awful decisions on a regular basis outside of building infrastructure.

The turnaround in the past year has been remarkable and is about as 180 a turn as we could've ever realistically made so credit to the club for that, but that wasn't normal. We basically hit the football jackpot in Conte and without him we could've easily had a disastrous season with another summer of Kane on strike. We shouldn't take that for granted, just as we shouldn't assume Leicester are completely fucked after 1 injury ridden season after a few years of very good investment and progress.

They've overpaid a few squad players and made some bad signings, but in reality they've massively overperformed for a few years and built a top class training facility. They're a bit like we were about 10-15 years ago and will go through cycles but are broadly doing well and tend to sell to buy rather than being outright irresponsible like Everton.

 

[arunspurs]

Chelsea turning to Fofana as a CB option. He is on a lengthy contract in Leicester. And could potentially be very expensive. If Chelsea do the deal & Tielemens leave too it would be bad news for any JM move. I am hoping Leicester can’t sell a single player for good valuation & end up selling Maddison

 

[worcestersauce]

I agree to an extent - some fans were definitely being impatient and catastrophising (shock horror!) but pre-Paratici the club was making awful decisions on a regular basis outside of building infrastructure.

The turnaround in the past year has been remarkable and is about as 180 a turn as we could've ever realistically made so credit to the club for that, but that wasn't normal. We basically hit the football jackpot in Conte and without him we could've easily had a disastrous season with another summer of Kane on strike. We shouldn't take that for granted, just as we shouldn't assume Leicester are completely fucked after 1 injury ridden season after a few years of very good investment and progress.

They've overpaid a few squad players and made some bad signings, but in reality they've massively overperformed for a few years and built a top class training facility. They're a bit like we were about 10-15 years ago and will go through cycles but are broadly doing well and tend to sell to buy rather than being outright irresponsible like Everton.

The problem is that they're running out of people to sell which is quite irresponsible if that is your business model.
Maddison is one player they really wouldn't want to sell but may be the the player they will have to sell.

 

[worcestersauce]

Chelsea turning to Fofana as a CB option. He is on a lengthy contract in Leicester. And could potentially be very expensive. If Chelsea do the deal & Tielemens leave too it would be bad news for any JM move. I am hoping Leicester can’t sell a single player for good valuation & end up selling Maddison

The Leicester chairman is quoted today saying they've had no offers for Tielemans.

 

[Duskwen]

Fofana is probably the one player they wouldn't sell. Just signed a new contract, the rest of their centre backs aren't great, unlike with Maddison where at least they have Barnes and that academy kid who broke into their team last season

 

[Timberwolf]

Fofana would probably cost Chelsea 80m or more. Great player but terrible time to try and sign him given his contract length and importance to Leicester.

 

[Timberwolf]

The problem is that they're running out of people to sell which is quite irresponsible if that is your business model.
Maddison is one player they really wouldn't want to sell but may be the the player they will have to sell.

I agree they've been pretty bad at renewing contracts they could also get resonable/good money for Daka, Ndidi, Dewsbury-Hall, Barnes and Justin if they need to sell, probably Castagne, Iheanacho and Pereira too. Maddison and Fofana are the two undoubtable cash cows, though.

They have about 8/9 decent youngish core players on longer contracts that they can build around going forward.

 

[danny32]

£100m on the table now for Maddison and Fofana. They might have trouble turning that down. We are told we have the money and with the sales of JT GLC SR HW JR and hopefully TN’D we can recoup £90m.
Easy this transfer business lark ain’t it!!!

 

[wrd]

It's the Wigan argument, they are now nothing and nowhere never to see the Premier League again but they won the cup, would they change that to have still been in the Premier league?

I think using Wigan is a false equivalancy. Whilst yes trophies matter and they are the key barometer of success in this field, what I was referring to was about how success is defined based on relativity. Success can't just be defined by whoever is doing the strongest in 1 metric is more succesful because companies and projects can vary in scope. Like the Joker film had a relatively small budget and achieved the box office success it did and won awards that is an incredibly successful project. Just because films made more doesn't mean they're more of a success because their budgets were more significant and they didn't win the accolades that the joker did.

So all this to say, Leicester has up until this point been a more succesful sporting project in the last decade because relative to their size look what they have achieved despite their limitations. Now if they end up careening off a cliff off the back of it because they were careless then that would clearly make it less successful. Wigan however was a poorly managed project that yielded success in one metric but failed in every other. To say that mentioning Leicester's success isn't a good argument because of what happened with Wigan is demonstrably false.

Leicester are probably in for a tough season but relatively speaking even if they struggle this and next but they end up rebuilding strong foundations ready to punch above their weight again then id consider that very succesful.

Also for what its worth the poch era of our club, with the circumstances we faced and what we achieved, I don't think any club was more succesful than us except Liverpool. Us managing to get to that final was more of a feat under the circumstances than anything peps achieved at city. I truly believe that. I think we then made some decisions that sent our project into freefall and we undermined all the foundations and sacrifices of building that stadium with the direction we went but thankfully we made the decisions we did to aggressively and quickly get back on track. I have no animosity towards the original poster but it does irritate me when people say haha remember when people said this, when clearly hindsight is a wondertul thing and you only have to look at Kane's feelings toward the club as evidence to back up the fact that the club was in danger of spiralling if we didn't make some aggressive choices. People keep attributing this new era as all thanks to the stadium, I think whilst the stadium is starting to show its worth, I don't think we've even begun to reap the rewards in any major way yet. What we're seeing now is based off an investment which was made which very likely would not have been had we not been so off course. Im grateful that decision was made but it was made likely because of how badly our nosedive was affecting our future plans and you only have to look at the difference in possibility of what we thought potential stadium sponsors would be when Nuno was at the helm. Our brand was not appealing.

Sorry for how long this is, if anybody gets through it, I'll be amazed, I just need it out of my head

 

[worcestersauce]

I agree they've been pretty bad at renewing contracts they could also get resonable/good money for Daka, Ndidi, Dewsbury-Hall, Barnes and Justin if they need to sell, probably Castagne, Iheanacho and Pereira too. Maddison and Fofana are the two undoubtable cash cows, though.

They have about 8/9 decent youngish core players on longer contracts that they can build around going forward.

I guess they've got to decide whether or not to bite the bullet now and start relying on that young cohort sooner rather than later. If they can use the money to bring in a bit of experience and leadership that could be the right course of action.

 

[worcestersauce]

I think using Wigan is a false equivalancy. Whilst yes trophies matter and they are the key barometer of success in this field, what I was referring to was about how success is defined based on relativity. Success can't just be defined by whoever is doing the strongest in 1 metric is more succesful because companies and projects can vary in scope. Like the Joker film had a relatively small budget and achieved the box office success it did and won awards that is an incredibly successful project. Just because films made more doesn't mean they're more of a success because their budgets were more significant and they didn't win the accolades that the joker did.

So all this to say, Leicester has up until this point been a more succesful sporting project in the last decade because relative to their size look what they have achieved despite their limitations. Now if they end up careening off a cliff off the back of it because they were careless then that would clearly make it less successful. Wigan however was a poorly managed project that yielded success in one metric but failed in every other. To say that mentioning Leicester's success isn't a good argument because of what happened with Wigan is demonstrably false.

Leicester are probably in for a tough season but relatively speaking even if they struggle this and next but they end up rebuilding strong foundations ready to punch above their weight again then id consider that very succesful.

Also for what its worth the poch era of our club, with the circumstances we faced and what we achieved, I don't think any club was more succesful than us except Liverpool. Us managing to get to that final was more of a feat under the circumstances than anything peps achieved at city. I truly believe that. I think we then made some decisions that sent our project into freefall and we undermined all the foundations and sacrifices of building that stadium with the direction we went but thankfully we made the decisions we did to aggressively and quickly get back on track. I have no animosity towards the original poster but it does irritate me when people say haha remember when people said this, when clearly hindsight is a wondertul thing and you only have to look at Kane's feelings toward the club as evidence to back up the fact that the club was in danger of spiralling if we didn't make some aggressive choices. People keep attributing this new era as all thanks to the stadium, I think whilst the stadium is starting to show its worth, I don't think we've even begun to reap the rewards in any major way yet. What we're seeing now is based off an investment which was made which very likely would not have been had we not been so off course. Im grateful that decision was made but it was made likely because of how badly our nosedive was affecting our future plans and you only have to look at the difference in possibility of what we thought potential stadium sponsors would be when Nuno was at the helm. Our brand was not appealing.

Sorry for how long this is, if anybody gets through it, I'll be amazed, I just need it out of my head

I don't think it's a false equivalence, there are differences between Wigan and Leicester of course but the fundamental point is the same.
I wasn't expressing an opinion on which was preferable by the way just trying to lay out the choices.

 

[mawspurs]

Tottenham Hotspur: Insider now drops hugely encouraging James Maddison transfer claim

Tottenham Hotspur may have been handed a boost in their reported pursuit of James Maddison this summer with the player keen on a move to London.

thisisfutbol.com

 

[codspur]

I agree they've been pretty bad at renewing contracts they could also get resonable/good money for Daka, Ndidi, Dewsbury-Hall, Barnes and Justin if they need to sell, probably Castagne, Iheanacho and Pereira too. Maddison and Fofana are the two undoubtable cash cows, though.

They have about 8/9 decent youngish core players on longer contracts that they can build around going forward.

Always sounds like a country hotel wedding venue rather than a footballer

 

[leray]

 

[AJW]

Supposedly Maddison is open to the move to Newcastle too.

 

[archiewasking]

Shame. I'd rather him than either of our supposed preferred options.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Shame. I'd rather him than either of our supposed preferred options.

Im the same, however Conte knows more about football than me and if he wants someone different I am ok with it.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Newcastle rather it had not come out. Makes you wonder if the agent leaked to fish out bigger clubs or Leicester wants a bidding war.

 

[Yiddo100]

Newcastle rather it had not come out. Makes you wonder if the agent leaked to fish out bigger clubs or Leicester wants a bidding war.

Wouldn’t surprise me, in a few years Newcastle may be the team to be at but Maddison should be aiming higher if he wants to leave now imo