Intresting News RE Ramsey

[WhiteStripe]

They would be in direct competition for a place in the side. So nothing like comparing Shearer to Ginola.

Don't make me hurt you.

Direct competition like Lampard & Gerrard then. very different in style though!

 

[worcestersauce]

There is another perfectly simple reason why Bostock will be better than Ramsey: Bostock is English and Ramsey is Welsh

 

[Kendall]

Hmmm then I think of Ryan Giggs and England's left side for his entire career..... :lol:

If only!

 

[Adam456]

This is the basis of the arsenal great young player myth, Wenger doesn't take young players and make them good, he takes the best youngsters and coaches them in the arsenal system.
Ramsey is a terrific player but that has nothing whatever to do with arsenal it's to do with Cardiff City and the young Welsh setup.
Arsene Wenger plucks already recognised young players and because they play to a system in the youth team they fit easily into the first team playing a simple pass and move game which makes them look even more gifted for their age.
I am not being detrimental to the arseanl I am just trying to explain why, in my opinion, their youngsters always look better than other team's and why in the end their eventual quality doesn't quite match their early potential.

Agreed. Though I think this is thread is a little overdone (!) I would point out that:

1. You can't sign EVERY good young player - you'll inevitably miss out on plenty who become world class

2. We have several who look equally good prospects - Bale, GDS, Tarrabt at the least

3. Players develop at different ages - Essien wasn't playing CL at 17 but would you prefer him or Fibreglass in your side ?

4. As ws said above Wenger's talent is for coaching players into his system so that they can slot in nicely when called upon - this tends to make then look better than they are

5. CC and perhaps yesterday aside they also tend to bring them on when they're coasting a few goals up and playing exhibition stuff - particularly at home - and again makes them look better

 

[Adam456]

Hmmm then I think of Ryan Giggs and England's left side for his entire career..... :lol:

If only!

he can take his test-i Quorn burgers and shove them up his @rse

 

[worcestersauce]

Adam456, I would have Essien every time just look at chelsea since hs injury and watch them when he returns, I think he is a great player in the true sense of the word.

 

[Adam456]

Adam456, I would have Essien every time just look at chelsea since hs injury and watch them when he returns, I think he is a great player in the true sense of the word.

Yep same here WS

 

[oskathegobshite]

just so you know Giggs could never have played for England. He is Welsh. The only reason he was eligible to play for England schoolboys is that he went to school in England.

 

[ILS]

just so you know Giggs could never have played for England. He is Welsh. The only reason he was eligible to play for England schoolboys is that he went to school in England.

You are spot on. How many times i hear idiotic fans and some talksport presenters claim that he could of played for England, when there was never a chance.

As for Ramsey, I have watched him on numerous occasions and the lad is going to be top class. He is so comfortable on the ball, good with both feet and can finish and he is not even a regular yet. As to say he is not as good as our midfielders, give the lad two more seasons and he will be head and shoulders above most of the midfielders in the premiership let alone ours.

 

[StartingPrice]

Just an Aaron Ramsay related question, didn't want to start a seperate thread, and didn't know where to post it:

In the game with the Spammers, yesterday, after he scored he went into the crowd. Was he booked? I didn't see him being booked, and the commentators didn't mention it (but it was ITV and, as we all know, their coverage is crap). Defoe was booked for going into the crowd after he scored (again, against the Spammers). So, was he booked or not?

 

[guiltyparty]

Just an Aaron Ramsay related question, didn't want to start a seperate thread, and didn't know where to post it:

In the game with the Spammers, yesterday, after he scored he went into the crowd. Was he booked? I didn't see him being booked, and the commentators didn't mention it (but it was ITV and, as we all know, their coverage is crap). Defoe was booked for going into the crowd after he scored (again, against the Spammers). So, was he booked or not?

Ha, I actually Tweeted the very same questions straight after. I didn't get an answer either. Intriguing - can't be one rule for some and another for others

The commentary WAS dire though

EDIT: According to Beeb website, he wasn't, which is a bit rich: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/8433917.stm

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

If we'd signed him he'd be on loan to some random league 1 side by now.

Was on ssn that arsenal are sending out on loan. So i guess we are not idiots

 

[Luka Lennon]

Ha, I actually Tweeted the very same questions straight after. I didn't get an answer either. Intriguing - can't be one rule for some and another for others

The commentary WAS dire though

EDIT: According to Beeb website, he wasn't, which is a bit rich: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/8433917.stm

don't think Defoe did get booked for going into the crowd

I believe he got booked for arguing that one of the spam players shoulda got booked for kicking Lennon I think it was

 

[StartingPrice]

don't think Defoe did get booked for going into the crowd

I believe he got booked for arguing that one of the spam players shoulda got booked for kicking Lennon I think it was

Maybe the ref gave a different version in his match report, but in the media it was specifically reported that JD was booked for going into the crowd. And, unless I am mistaken, there has been a directive 'from above' that this is now a bookable offence.

 

[guiltyparty]

It's been reported everywhere that it was for 'celebration'

 

[TopSpurMan]

Comolli got it right then. As he is decidedly average.

are you talking about the same ramsey? the one taking fabrig arse's place?

i wonder sometimes how much football some people actually watch - highlights and tv do'nt always give a great view you know!