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teok

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It's a very english thing to do rubbishing coaching qualifications. It's one that has resulted in the farce of a national team we now have.
 

Lilbaz

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It's a very english thing to do rubbishing coaching qualifications. It's one that has resulted in the farce of a national team we now have.

Ramsey evaluates the coaching badge examiners. Think we will be all right on this.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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No, it proves you have the very basic level of competence, understand the rules under which you need to operate, etc.

Tim doesn't.

Even worse, I'm fairly sure I read they did their A and B badges with the Welsh FA as they considered the English FA to be "too difficult".

Come on mate, don't ignore the rest of the post.

The question is, can Sherwood get the best out of the staff and players he has available to him.

The answer is that no one knows, yet carry on like they do.

For me, his appointment is a cause for cautious optimism, nothing more or less.
 

Dinghy

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Jun 22, 2005
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Ramsey evaluates the coaching badge examiners. Think we will be all right on this.
Don't they say 'those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. And those that can't teach, teach the teachers'???

:whistle:
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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You seem to have ignored mine where I said exactly that :p

But I wasn't responding to your post, I was questioning the coherence of those who have written him off with zero evidence to back it up.

You responded to me remember?
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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Apr 4, 2006
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Is that a trick question? Of course it would have been and AVB probably wouldn't have been fired.

I just do not see how Suarez being brilliant displays Liverpool's tactical ineptitude. He was there last season, and the season before. Their tactical development has been a work in progress of the past couple of years culminating in a 0-5 demolishment of us at home. If Liverpool knew what we were going to do, then we knew what they were going to do. Avb and Rodgers had been in charge a very similar amount of time. We got our tactics wrong, they got theirs right. Ergo we were outdone badly by a tactically astute team.

Harry was meant to be man management over tactics, avb was supposed to be tactics over man management. Being done by 5+ goals displays as clearly as possibly that you have been tactically out maneuvered.

Well, the west ham result may be a clearer example.
 

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
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Judging by previous reactions to other certain managers 90% of SC :D

The implication being why does it matter?

AVB came across as a nice enough bloke, Redknapp a bit of a BS artist but generally ok.

Surely their records and how their teams play matters the most?
 

spurious1

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I've only ever supported Spurs, so I can't say for sure, but does anyone know: do other teams fans act like this? Almost willing the team to fail, because of third hand information that the new manager is a wanker, and, inevitably, being British, "tactically naive". And even if he is, wasn't Ferguson a wanker of the highest order, and a non-coach who relied on others for that part of the job? He didn't do so badly (not meaning of course to compare Sherwood to Ferguson, just to say that -perceived- tactical brilliance is not a necessary - or even sufficient, as we have seen - quality for success)

Now I have no idea whether he will succeed or fail, neither would surprise me, but I certainly hope that he succeeds, because if he succeeds, Spurs succeed. And here's what's happened over the last decade or so: we take a sophisticated tactical with the proper creditials (Santini, Ramos, AVB) who, flops to a greater or lesser extent, to be replaced in a bit of a panic by a "hand-around-the-shoulders" type, tactically naive and all that, will never take us to the "next level", you've all heard it (Jol, Redknapp) who is actually a big success, but who we can't wait to sack at the first opportunity to bring in that elusive tactical genius...
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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It's a very english thing to do rubbishing coaching qualifications. It's one that has resulted in the farce of a national team we now have.
The lack of support from the Premier League being another reason.
 

Flashspur

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Well to stick to a Christmas metaphor, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and we'll know after West Brom if Southampton was a 'dead manager bounce' result or the real thing.

Whether he has the personality of an asshole or not is a moot issue when results are more important. If he can get the players to play and treat them fairly without being a wanker and having a go at AVB's perceived 'favorites' to show he is the boss, then I'll be happy. If he is getting good results while doing so then all the better!

If he doesn't do the above, then he is a target like anyone else who isn't performing in the role or generally acting like a c*nt.
 
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