Have you ever felt more disconnected?

[DEFchenkOE]

I'm also 37 and very disconnected, the 90s were rough but maybe I wasn't of the age to really understand what was going on. Plus we still had some attacking flair in the team and we're exciting to watch despite being soft touches when the going got tough. Now we actually have some genuine world class players and internationals but we're just terrible in all departments. With headless chicken leadership from the top.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

It might have been worse before, but I can't remember a side where I felt the actual output vs. the potential output was lower

The team, with a few possible exceptions, doesn't buy into what's going on, and it's created a poisonous dynamic

I really don't like this side. I'd much rather we sold a lot of them, bought a load of keen youngsters who gave a shit about playing for the club, and build from the bottom up

 

[Rosco1984]

In short no. I started supporting spurs in 1990 as a 6 year old who had one side of the family as spurs fans and the other a mixture of glory whores that unfortunately my younger brothers fell into with united and chelsea. Since then there has always been tough periods some very tough periods but you could always see a plan and a desire to please the fans and in general it has been a story of slow and steady progress. Now it feels like we are going backwards year on year with no plan and no desire to consider the fans at all. I don't blame Harry for wanting to leave its hard for even the most die hard fan to gather any enthusiasm for our games imagine how soul destroying it is for him to try and carry this shambles week on week.

 

[BucSpur]

The big issue for me now is even if we sorted out this shite and Harry goes and we reinvest that money in 2-4 great players and get a manager that gets us playing and a DOF that stands between Levy and footballing decisions so we end up a top 4 side again for the next 5 years+ starting next season its the aching fucking regret.

Not so long ago, in fact it still feels like last week to me sometimes, for a couple of years there we had a manager 99% of us loved, a team packed with players that seemed to have a genuine togetherness, spearheaded by a striker the envy of the country and most of Europe who was an academy lad and FAN OF THE CLUB he was playing for.

There was a 12month period, spread unfortunately over TWO seasons, where WE were the form team, for the first time in my life i felt like the other team feared us more than we did them home or away. None of us thought we would win every game but you got the feeling that every rival manager would have got on their knees at the start of the season for 2 guaranteed points against us but no way we would have.

After the low of AVB and Sherwood the high of Poch was, for a while, stratospheric and so now the low we are in now feels catastrophically low.

I can't say i have a strong emotional attachment to Kane, I love Tottenham not him, so his comments about staying over the years (whilst perfectly legitimate and understandable) rubbed me the wrong way a bit (and i worshipped Hoddle as a kid so no player will ever match him for me) but if he goes its still a gut wrenching, spine twisting loss because it.was.all.there!

A bit more daring and a bit more doing and we would have been over the line AND in a way that, probably, would have meant more than if we ever do it in the future because it would have been perfect.

So yeah i feel disconnected because there's so much to dislike about us as a club and the squad at the moment, and an even greater disconnection because even if we somehow turn a corner and win the big prizes it feels like right now i would care slightly less about it, because it just can't be as perfect as could have been then, especially if Kane's gone.

 

[mumfordspur]

This is a strange position for me as I actually hate Sugar and would rather watch Arsenal play Chelsea than The Apprentice.
But didn't he sign Klinsmann I remember some old nonsense about his yacht.
I cannot think of a fair comparison so will put this up - the equivalent today of Brighton signing Harry Kane.

 

[shelfboy68]

The big issue for me now is even if we sorted out this shite and Harry goes and we reinvest that money in 2-4 great players and get a manager that gets us playing and a DOF that stands between Levy and footballing decisions so we end up a top 4 side again for the next 5 years+ starting next season its the aching fucking regret.

Not so long ago, in fact it still feels like last week to me sometimes, for a couple of years there we had a manager 99% of us loved, a team packed with players that seemed to have a genuine togetherness, spearheaded by a striker the envy of the country and most of Europe who was an academy lad and FAN OF THE CLUB he was playing for.

There was a 12month period, spread unfortunately over TWO seasons, where WE were the form team, for the first time in my life i felt like the other team feared us more than we did them home or away. None of us thought we would win every game but you got the feeling that every rival manager would have got on their knees at the start of the season for 2 guaranteed points against us but no way we would have.

After the low of AVB and Sherwood the high of Poch was, for a while, stratospheric and so now the low we are in now feels catastrophically low.

I can't say i have a strong emotional attachment to Kane, I love Tottenham not him, so his comments about staying over the years (whilst perfectly legitimate and understandable) rubbed me the wrong way a bit (and i worshipped Hoddle as a kid so no player will ever match him for me) but if he goes its still a gut wrenching, spine twisting loss because it.was.all.there!

A bit more daring and a bit more doing and we would have been over the line AND in a way that, probably, would have meant more than if we ever do it in the future because it would have been perfect.

So yeah i feel disconnected because there's so much to dislike about us as a club and the squad at the moment, and an even greater disconnection because even if we somehow turn a corner and win the big prizes it feels like right now i would care slightly less about it, because it just can't be as perfect as could have been then, especially if Kane's gone.

I can't wait another five years FFS

 

[NickHSpurs]

I'm also 37 and very disconnected, the 90s were rough but maybe I wasn't of the age to really understand what was going on. Plus we still had some attacking flair in the team and we're exciting to watch despite being soft touches when the going got tough. Now we actually have some genuine world class players and internationals but we're just terrible in all departments. With headless chicken leadership from the top.

I feel the same about that time, being the same age I don't think I was really old enough for it to bother me.

I think the 1995 semi final was the first time I remember being disappointed by Spurs and I was only 11 or 12 years old then so not old enough to feel a real connection with a football club like an adult.

 

[VancouverSpur]

Covid has had a very visible impact on football in terms of finances and attendance. But I believe there has also been a profound psychological impact as well.

Football is nothing without fans and their absence from stadiums over the past year has exposed how soulless the game can feel played in an empty stadium.

However It has also exacerbated the dissatisfaction many of us feel with Spurs inability to not just compete but to win. The amount of comments on here over recent months about how apathetic we all feel is quite tragic. It also has brought real risk to the club as we no longer feel as invested emotionally nor are we as keen to invest financially.

I am 48 and have been a fan since the age of 3 when someone bought me a Spurs kit for my birthday. I feel as disconnected today as at any point over the last 45 yrs. I am normally a bag of nerves on match days and am off my seat at every chance or goal. Yesterday I had to miss the first half due to work and I was not bothered.

Kane or no Kane, exciting manager or George Graham I will always be Spurs through and through, I just hope the apathy finally dissipates and the excitement returns.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

No, I was younger in the 80s, 90s and always optimistic that next season we could sort our shit and get a decent team to challenge the year after, also players gave a shit and it wasn’t all about money and ripping off the fan. Probably been anti ENIC 10 years ahead of the curve, my main gripe always how they left transfer dealings late and only seemed to show ambition to ‘do just enough’ to keep the majority happy. But 2018 was the point were when Poch called them out to show ambition and they failed massively, I expected then what we see now, and really rather than continually get angry this season I have decided to take a step back, bar our CL run I’ve got very little enjoyment from Spurs and barely muster a grunt these days, I can’t see an easy fix for our current predictment, it’s going to require major change and even then no guarantee of success, hopefully if ENIC sell up or massively change their ways my enthusiasm can return, it’s not about winning, it’s about at least trying to win and really ENIC the great pretenders have had us marking time for years...

 

[Meercat]

The short answer is yeah, definitely. That run in the 90s and early 00s with the likes of Gross, and the dross that all served up, and the wilderness years around that time where it was a dream to even challenge for a UEFA spot. But more than results and stuff this was down to the fact I’d moved up to Newcastle for Uni, and then emigrated to Sweden in 97, and it was an era with minimal live football on tv and no real access to something like SC to keep it feeling alive.

But more than that, the year when one by one we let every player go who had been part of our slow resurrection, seeing Dawse go, and hearing Lennon, the last of that team was also on the outs on deadline day, just felt like we’d dismantled ‘my’ Tottenham… but of course out of that sadness came title challenges, consistent top fours, and a CL final… so while I feel dead inside right now I know myself well enough to know that when the new guy is announced (as long as it isn’t Rodgers) I’ll feel a sense of renewal, and as we dip into the transfer market I’ll start to get that familiar buzz again. What will make the difference is if it looks like we have a genuine plan for recruitment and a view of a squad that actually improves across the pitch, not overloads with five attackers and no fixing the damned defence…

(and the Rodgers thing, I’ll get over it if it is him, he’s a good manager, it’s just hard to think of having two managers back to back I’ve spent 10+ years hating hahah)

 

[EireYid]

No never. We've had shit teams, shit managers who would piss me off but I'd always come back every match with a bit of hope. This season I've sometimes forgot we we were even playing until about an hour before the match, and then I'd fall asleep during matches. There's no real players I feel a really big connection with either like we've had previously.

The only thing I'd ask for from players if your going to be so bad as a team and individuals, at least give it 100% effort but this team just really don't give a sh*t and I think that's why I feel no connection to the team at this time.

 

[Shadydan]

Sheffield United.

Chelsea 6-1 at home

 

[Matthew]

From this, 3 years ago to now! just wow!

 

[Matthew]

im 35, and thankfully cant really remember the mid/late 90s as i was still a whippersnapper, first memory i have is the worthington cup final, and then i had to put up with my mates supporting arsenal & united, and winning everything through the 2000s, but i didn't feel disconnect back then, as we knew what we were, after jol/redknapp/poch got us up the table, and dared to dream, i kind feel like this my generation of "th 90s" although clearly not as bad, it's still gut wrenching.

 

[mrlilywhite]

Been supporting this club for 43 years & had some ups and had some downs - I've learned over time to take a half-glass empty approach & which has always kept any discontent at bay. I don't feel any more disconnected from the club than I have done over any other given time. I feel more disconnected from football overall though. My loyalty has always been to Spurs and what that means to me on a personal level, other than that I have no love for football in general.

 

[eViL]

No because I'm 41 and not an emotional melt.

Football is a hobby; not a fucking life sentence.

If you don't like the way your hobby is going, find a new hobby.

 

[eViL]

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From this, 3 years ago to now! just wow!

Yeah but we didn't win any trophies that season.
(sarcasm numbnuts)

 

[Lighty64]

I'll never be disconnected, born a Spurs fan, and will die a Spurs fan. Have seen a lot worse than this (though last nights first half was a push), have seen us relegated and come back and eventually get stronger.

 

[dontcallme]

I think it is fair to say that the 90s were worse.

However the extreme negativity I feel is connected to how quick we fell. We had 3 seasons in a row finishing in the top 3. We got to a CL final. The quality and consistency of the football was better than anything for us since the Prem began.

Then within 2 seasons our manager has gone. Our form during his last calendar year was awful. Our next appointment was one of the biggest names in football and a complete failure. The hope was there but the downfall continued.

In the 90s we were consistently shit with small glimmers of hope.

During the best years of Poch I genuinely believed we were going to be a top team for several more years.

It's easier to accept mediocrity when that is all you know.

 

[VancouverSpur]

No because I'm 41 and not an emotional melt.

Football is a hobby; not a fucking life sentence.

If you don't like the way your hobby is going, find a new hobby.

If only it were that simple. Spurs is in my DNA just the way it's always been and always will be. My family often tell me to support a different team if I am so unhappy with how its going. Maybe others could just up and switch teams but not me. I have been sentenced to life with Spurs but I am ok with that...could be worse could have been Arsenal.

 

[Japhet]

For the vast majority of my Spurs supporting life there were no expectations. Most seasons were spent nervously eyeing the relegation zone and a sense of achievement came when we were actually safe from the drop. Through Jol, Redknapp and Poch we've risen to the top (and a huge part of that is down to Daniel Levy). The trouble is that that flirt with success has brought with it a great deal of expectation, but we compete in competitions that are peppered with clubs with much greater resources than we have. We punched way above our weight with Poch but that bubble burst. Many then expected Mourinho to lead us to the promised land, but in reality he just took us to the cleaners. I don't suffer from the impatience for success that seems to tear so many fans apart, probably from life experiences as much as football ones. If we (myself and siblings) had a family motto it would be 'Expect nothing, then you won't be disappointed'. For me, it's part and parcel of supporting Spurs and has always been the same.