Harry Kane
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Matrix
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Don’t get some of the bitterness aimed at H. Gave us his best years and people wanted him to stay when we are a mess in the boardroom, showing no ambition?
Levy’s words today shows that.
He has one career and it was plain to see the chances of winning with us were getting slim every season.
Hope he wins something with Bayern this season, if he doesn’t, I’m not going to laugh and take the piss out of him and be nasty like some are. This guy is our all time goal scorer who dug us out many a time when things were shit.
No wonder we get the piss ripped out of us. Fickle fanbase.
Levy’s words today shows that.
He has one career and it was plain to see the chances of winning with us were getting slim every season.
Hope he wins something with Bayern this season, if he doesn’t, I’m not going to laugh and take the piss out of him and be nasty like some are. This guy is our all time goal scorer who dug us out many a time when things were shit.
No wonder we get the piss ripped out of us. Fickle fanbase.
mpickard2087
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The topic is now available for me to post on, so may as well give my thoughts.
I think in the cold light of day, the correct decision has been made for several reasons. We had a player who was mentally checking out, the club weren’t in a position of strength, and that was only going to get weaker. Losing your best player is one thing, losing him on a free (and quite probably to a PL rival) next year exponentially worse. Manoeuvring him overseas and getting a transfer fee was the optimal manner of departure.
Got to say I think a lot of fans have been, maybe understandably..... but still, going through this acting like a “so you're telling me there’s a chance” meme. Because Kane was giving some vague words about being maybe open to a new contract at some point down the line, they were clinging to this and so the club should wait and wait and hope something happens to change his mind. Problem is, what would that be? Doubt even CL qualification or a domestic cup would have been a game changer tbh. He was “open to” a lot of things, including Bayern’s offer, and I’m sure the option of running down his contract and leaving on a free also. They were clearly just diplomatic stalling hollow words, as he kept his head down and waited for things/his departure to play out.
Also think it was naïve the argument to just say he wasn’t for sale this summer and that would kill the saga for now. Nah. The circus would have just ramped up tenfold, and the narrative less and less about the team, everything about Kane. Every win the first question would be “is that enough to keep him”, every loss “does he need to leave”. And as the time kept ticking down on his contract, the transfer speculation would increase every day. The only way of stopping it was something of clarity, a new contract right now or the sale.
Like it or not, economics also have to come into it. I get the theory about keeping him a final year would have potentially been more valuable in terms of helping us achieve things, but that’s no sure thing in what will be a hyper-competitive PL this season. For any club, turning down a huge fee for player who wants out and is nearing the end of their contract is a tough thing to decline. They will also have had to weigh up the potential impact in future years if he did end up at a direct rival on a free. I have also mentioned a couple of times now, some aspects of our finances aren’t in fantastic shape – due to repeat (bad) buying and virtually nil selling our net transfer liabilities stood before this window at just shy of quarter of a billion pounds, one of the very highest of all clubs, and this sale puts that in a healthier position. Whatever your viewpoint though, money usually talks at the end of the day…..
And from a football perspective, now might be the best time if it was going to happen. We’re at a new chapter, a bit of a rebuild and trying to go off in a different direction, and hopefully looking more long term and not just short term sticking plaster jobs any more (many ironically done to placate Kane, and have put us in this mess). A blank canvas with certainty might be best for Postecoglou, rather than a year of Kane and the circus I mentioned previously that would occur, and then having to adapt again.
I think to be fair everyone involved has handled it pretty correctly also. The club have been hard-headed and not fallen for forlornly hoping he’d sign a new deal (and quite probably got bitten massively on the arse next summer) which tbh I feared they would do, and have walked the tightrope (from hardly a position of strength) between driving somewhat of a hard bargain and extracting a fee whilst also compromising a little and not (unrealistically, given the situation) demanding something way over 100m. Whilst Kane himself has been, a little surprisingly, amenable to leaving the right way, making sure we get recompensed, and has gone abroad and not to another PL team.
I’ll end by saying I don’t see it as a disaster or sad day. We got 10 years (and for all those moaning about us fucking up and losing him, to be fair it wasn’t very long ago at all that we had a good player for about two/three years before he left), a couple of hundred goals, and a massive fee as he entered his 30’s. Sometimes it’s good for all parties. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for Kane to go do something different and have a new challenge, I don’t think it has to be a bad thing for Spurs to go in a different direction and have the challenge to evolve as a team.
Onwards we go….
I think in the cold light of day, the correct decision has been made for several reasons. We had a player who was mentally checking out, the club weren’t in a position of strength, and that was only going to get weaker. Losing your best player is one thing, losing him on a free (and quite probably to a PL rival) next year exponentially worse. Manoeuvring him overseas and getting a transfer fee was the optimal manner of departure.
Got to say I think a lot of fans have been, maybe understandably..... but still, going through this acting like a “so you're telling me there’s a chance” meme. Because Kane was giving some vague words about being maybe open to a new contract at some point down the line, they were clinging to this and so the club should wait and wait and hope something happens to change his mind. Problem is, what would that be? Doubt even CL qualification or a domestic cup would have been a game changer tbh. He was “open to” a lot of things, including Bayern’s offer, and I’m sure the option of running down his contract and leaving on a free also. They were clearly just diplomatic stalling hollow words, as he kept his head down and waited for things/his departure to play out.
Also think it was naïve the argument to just say he wasn’t for sale this summer and that would kill the saga for now. Nah. The circus would have just ramped up tenfold, and the narrative less and less about the team, everything about Kane. Every win the first question would be “is that enough to keep him”, every loss “does he need to leave”. And as the time kept ticking down on his contract, the transfer speculation would increase every day. The only way of stopping it was something of clarity, a new contract right now or the sale.
Like it or not, economics also have to come into it. I get the theory about keeping him a final year would have potentially been more valuable in terms of helping us achieve things, but that’s no sure thing in what will be a hyper-competitive PL this season. For any club, turning down a huge fee for player who wants out and is nearing the end of their contract is a tough thing to decline. They will also have had to weigh up the potential impact in future years if he did end up at a direct rival on a free. I have also mentioned a couple of times now, some aspects of our finances aren’t in fantastic shape – due to repeat (bad) buying and virtually nil selling our net transfer liabilities stood before this window at just shy of quarter of a billion pounds, one of the very highest of all clubs, and this sale puts that in a healthier position. Whatever your viewpoint though, money usually talks at the end of the day…..
And from a football perspective, now might be the best time if it was going to happen. We’re at a new chapter, a bit of a rebuild and trying to go off in a different direction, and hopefully looking more long term and not just short term sticking plaster jobs any more (many ironically done to placate Kane, and have put us in this mess). A blank canvas with certainty might be best for Postecoglou, rather than a year of Kane and the circus I mentioned previously that would occur, and then having to adapt again.
I think to be fair everyone involved has handled it pretty correctly also. The club have been hard-headed and not fallen for forlornly hoping he’d sign a new deal (and quite probably got bitten massively on the arse next summer) which tbh I feared they would do, and have walked the tightrope (from hardly a position of strength) between driving somewhat of a hard bargain and extracting a fee whilst also compromising a little and not (unrealistically, given the situation) demanding something way over 100m. Whilst Kane himself has been, a little surprisingly, amenable to leaving the right way, making sure we get recompensed, and has gone abroad and not to another PL team.
I’ll end by saying I don’t see it as a disaster or sad day. We got 10 years (and for all those moaning about us fucking up and losing him, to be fair it wasn’t very long ago at all that we had a good player for about two/three years before he left), a couple of hundred goals, and a massive fee as he entered his 30’s. Sometimes it’s good for all parties. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for Kane to go do something different and have a new challenge, I don’t think it has to be a bad thing for Spurs to go in a different direction and have the challenge to evolve as a team.
Onwards we go….
You’ve based that on him coming on with 20mins of a charity shield game?!
Timbo Tottenham
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Me working out the double negatives:Can you imagine the press when he don’t win nothing
No, I'm basing it on the fact that it never even occurred to me that his move might not work out for him.
Doesn't mean it won't, doesn't mean he wont score a crapton of goals and win everything in sight.
Just did not enter my thoughts that it might not be a good move for him until I saw him come on the pitch
gibbospurs
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He literally low 5’d Ganabry within 10 seconds on coming on. Unforgivable! 🫡
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Tuchel has a pretty terrible record since taking over as Bayern coach - Winning less than half his games. They only won the league last year because Dortmund choked in the final game. It’s not at all unlikely that if they start relatively poorly this season, Tuchel will be sacked.
It isn’t the slam dunk that some people seem to believe that Kane automatically win every year with Bayern.
It isn’t the slam dunk that some people seem to believe that Kane automatically win every year with Bayern.
spurs mental
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I've seen nobody be nasty or bitter towards Kane.
Delighted that Bayern got walloped last night and that they look to be a bit of a mess, absolutely. People are laughing because everyone and their dog said he was going to win a trophy 12 hours into his Bayern career and couldn't win one in 20 years at Spurs.
Everyone hopes he does well but I couldn't care less what Bayern wins with him. I'm a Spurs fan. Not a Harry Kane fan.
Be great if he smashes Arsenal in the CL, sure, but I'm not going to hope Bayern Munich win anything. Detestable club.
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Absolutely, people make out he never had a chance of winning anything with us. The fact is he had a chance at winning every domestic trophy and the CL, but each time the team, including him, came up short.
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Then you missed it. There was a spell, god knows how many pages ago now, where it was ridiculous. Thankfully only from a few.
I replied to something similar last night. Its not about being bitter towards Kane. People is joking because it hurts to see him play for another club.
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Buggsy61
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Just bracing myself for later today. Those chimps on Sky are going to be willing us to lose so that they can feed the narrative that Spurs are nothing without Kane and it’s a crisis for Ange.
Michael Dawson had a taster of it yesterday with a Sky panel that included Merse and that half wit Kris Boyd.
Michael Dawson had a taster of it yesterday with a Sky panel that included Merse and that half wit Kris Boyd.
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Have been saying the same. In my view pretty sad response
spurs mental
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I've obviously got those posters on ignore.
Anyone bitter towards Kane after what he did for Tottenham is strange.
