Harry Kane

[danovice]

Tbh it’s the perfect media release for Kane. He looks like he cares, whilst putting pressure on Bayern and Levy (if he wants a fee). Worst case scenario for him, it doesn’t work and he’s a free agent next year, with all the freedom in the world.

Was going to say well-played by Kane's camp but someone already did. Put pressure on Levy while sounding pro-Spurs, all while giving up very little. I don't think Levy wants him to go on a free (because Lewis said, of course) so now Levy has less leverage to work with. Still think Kane is sold for less than people believe he's worth.

 

[Chimbo!]

Is the Harry Kane deadline, which we all know isn’t genuine, an attempt to pressure Spurs into accepting a lower bid, Bayern into significantly upping their offer, or both, or neither and it’s just Charlie Kane trying to stay relevant in the negotiations?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Is the Harry Kane deadline, which we all know isn’t genuine, an attempt to pressure Spurs into accepting a lower bid, Bayern into significantly upping their offer, or both, or neither and it’s just Charlie Kane trying to stay relevant in the negotiations?

Yes

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Has Charlie retired?

 

[14/04/91]

If Kane goes to Chelsea then as far as I'm concerned, that's his choice, he's given us everything. I appreciate it's a bit of a love triangle, Kane - Fans - Club and the fan's are not responsible for the actions of the club but Kane has tried to be everything he can for both and honestly I think he deserves to be a bit selfish with his next choice. Obviously I personally hope it's not Chelsea but if that's what he chooses, I'll accept it. He's not done a Sol Campbell and led us down a merry path.

If he stays then the club have an opportunity to convince him that we're a home worth being apart of, he's sacrificed the majority of his career to make it a happy home, if he chooses Chelsea then we should do our best to understand his decisions in relation to the rest of it.

I just don't see Chelsea happening. Firstly, there was a lot of talk that he fell out of love with Poch towards the end of his reign. Secondly, if he did want to play for him again, he'll know there's absolutely zero guarantees Poch will be given a long run at the job (or he may engineer his own exit).
Finally, Chelsea under Boehly are all about young players on long contracts. Even on a free, a 31 year old goes against their model.

Who knows what Chelsea will look like in a years' time but if the first 12 months of Boehly's tenure is anything to go by, I think Harry will avoid this particular circus given he will have more than a few other options on the table.

 

[Chimbo!]

Was going to say well-played by Kane's camp but someone already did. Put pressure on Levy while sounding pro-Spurs, all while giving up very little. I don't think Levy wants him to go on a free (because Lewis said, of course) so now Levy has less leverage to work with. Still think Kane is sold for less than people believe he's worth.

If you’re trying to up the fee, the article is helpful too. I think Spurs could be behind the leak. The info about Kane potentially signing a new contract in the first few months of the season isn’t something that would help Kane push the transfer through.

 

[danovice]

“If he does stay put this summer, Kane is prepared to negotiate a contract extension with the club during the early months of the upcoming season if they show significant progress on the pitch under Postecoglou.”

Hard to tell if this a PR line or there is truth to it. What is certain there is no way we convince him to stay if we don’t properly invest in some defenders as we will be torn apart without them. If there is truth to it then Levy needs to loosen the purse strings and pay the money needed to put the squad in the best possible shape…. Which we all know won’t happen.

Totally PR because he can negotiate but not sign.

I used to ask my kids if they did their homework and the would often say "some." I told them technically you could have completed 0.0000001% of your tasks (i.e., read a sentence) and still be correct that you did "some."

Kane didn't take any position about signing; he just agreed that they would negotiate ("talk") if "significant progress" is made. "Significant progress" is a subjective standard that can't be used to hold someone to account.

 

[Styopa]

Where's 600k come from? He won't get anywhere near that here anyway. If he sees his contract out he'll get at least similar to what we pay him currently so that would suit him. There will be a lot of clubs in for him on those wages and a free transfer. Whether he will be interested in all of them is another matter but he will have plenty of options. I still think City would take him just to stay dominant and stop their competition getting him. He's still the best homegrown player at the end of the day.

Yeah Kane being available on a free is a different prospect to Kane being available for one hundred mill.

A club like City could take him and use him as a HG rotation option. They have loads of games every season anyway and him being free and HG would potentially free them up for other business.

 

[Timberwolf]

Has Charlie retired?

Yeah Corluka retired in 2021 sadly.

Loved that guy.

 

[wrd]

Putting money aside - the point with Harry is - what is the purpose of Tottenham as a football club? You have one the best stadiums in the world, we are not short of money - if you sell the best player in a generation what does it say as a club. Clubs sell their players all the time, but the biggest clubs do so on their terms. I am totally for selling him on our terms, not this way worrying about whether he would leave for free.

This is the crux of this moment, this is a far bigger moment for Levy than it is Kane. Keep him and get the cb's and you show you're willing to risk something for glory. Sell Kane, match the money with what we already have in the coffers and show that despite Kane leaving, we're committed to making something of our club in footballing terms. Sell Kane and use the money to fill gaps and you're basically saying, we're happy simply to exist and any money is a rainy day fund for when it's pouring.

 

[Riandor]

Clearly Bayern aren’t poor. But they don’t have the same broadcast or match day revenue that we or any other large PL team has. I think they’re hitting a brick wall in terms of what they can output. So it’ll be instalments or a player offer that gets them across the line…if they are able to

Bayern are VERY wealthy.
What they do have though is a commitment to their fans and board not to overpay. Don't forget the 50+1 rule in Germany. At some point the money inolved just won't make sense, and like Levy for Spurs, they will move on to other targets. Now that said, those targests seem to be drying up fast, so I am not sure who they turn the attention to should Kane call their bluff and now stay. That said, they do start their season a week later than us.

Regardless, Bayern can easily afford Kane, they just don't want to overpay and are happy to negotiate as much as possible to keep the costs down. After all, they don't want to start a precedent. Their last Transfer Record was a few seasons ago now, this is not a club or a league that is as wanten with their money as others, plus as others have said, for the majority they can and do often buy the talent within Germany to ensure they stay top in the Bundesliga. THis is something the fans are fully behind and it is of course the same thing Ferguson used to do with Man United until other clubs caught up finacially.

We might perceive this as "arrogance", but in Germany this is seen as being sensible.

 

[Metalhead]

Not many teams will want to sign a 31-yo player on a long-term deal. Add on to that teams that won't be looking for a striker.

It's going to be a smaller number than people (including Charlie) think.

I don't think he will go to Arsenal.

Chelsea - maybe, but they have a young striker they like now, and linked to Valhovic

United - possible, but just spent big on a young striker - if he develops this season, United probably would not be in the market.

City - Unlikely - they have signed 2 players over 30 in the last 10 years - Bravo and Caballero - their MO is to spend big on young players. Even if Haaland leaves, I think they will go with Alvarez and a new young striker.

Liverpool - unlikely given all the forwards they have in their squad, and the style Klopp wants to play

Newcastle - might be most likely non-Spurs team in PL - but does Kane want to move to Newcastle?


Bayern - lets see if they sign a striker this year
Barcelona - maybe as a Lewendowski replacement - but then will Kane want to leave PL being that much close to record?
Madrid - not likely, with Mbappe coming in, and Haaland also rumored

Italian teams? - I don't think its likely.


So, you are probably only talking 2-3 clubs - and Spurs could still be in the mix. it is true he could go to loads of other smaller teams, but those teams won't fit his criteria of being able to realistically compete for trophies.

I think that there are enough options for him to be content to hold out. Who knows with the scoring record - I have often thought that we place importance on it because it's a good reason for him to stay but bear in mind that he's not even got Shearer's one league title to his name, he'd be mad to want to go through his whole career with only the goal scoring record to his name. I think that as Spurs fans, we've had the trophy ambition knocked out of us but for a player, surely it has to be important?

 

[wrd]

I just don't see Chelsea happening. Firstly, there was a lot of talk that he fell out of love with Poch towards the end of his reign. Secondly, if he did want to play for him again, he'll know there's absolutely zero guarantees Poch will be given a long run at the job (or he may engineer his own exit).
Finally, Chelsea under Boehly are all about young players on long contracts. Even on a free, a 31 year old goes against their model.

Who knows what Chelsea will look like in a years' time but if the first 12 months of Boehly's tenure is anything to go by, I think Harry will avoid this particular circus given he will have more than a few other options on the table.

I agree with you, logistically you're correct, I was speaking in terms purely on judging Kane's decisions.

 

[thfc1989]

There are essentially 2 scenarios:

1. Agree a fee with Bayern and sell Kane this summer for £80m-100m. Re-invest that money into CB’s, a true DM destroyer, and a forward who can play across front 3 positions. Club moves on.

2. Keep Kane this season and still buy a CB, a DM and sell deadwood this transfer window. Kane stays and with the new players we improve this season. Next summer is still under a cloud unless Kane signs a new contract during the season.

In either scenario we need to invest in the squad and buy a CB at least and also defensive midfield depending on outgoings. This is where we have failed already this window as that CB is essential to our season plans and outcome. We were absolutely terrible in defence last season and also in midfield after Bentancur was injured. We don’t have an imposing midfielder who is strong in duels, mobile and robust. Clearly this must be noticed by the recruitment team as a gap in our overall team skill set and characteristics.

Unless we address these 2 glaring weaknesses we will not significantly improve defensively. Højbjerg should be sold and upgraded, I like him as a player but when Bentancur is back and hopefully finds form we won’t need him as much as we have players who can do a similar job.

Also With regards to Bayern they were in a similar position last summer with Lewandowski and eventually sold him for €50m to Barca. He was their main man, main striker, biggest threat and goal guarantee. Kane is similar but younger than Lewi was last summer when sold, but to our club he means more and is homegrown which counts for a lot as quality HG in the Prem are scarce. They really need to pay up given the current market or walk away and concede.

However, instead of waiting for this outcome we should be buying the essential players to plug the gaps in our squad - they are required regardless and it’s imperative we have them in now otherwise we aren’t bridging the gap to top 6 or top 4. Aston Villa have had a much better window and got their first targets, a lesser club but done very good business in a far better way after being back in Europe.

How have you come to the conclusion that DM is a priority?

 

[JacoZA]

Pretty obvious that Harry Kane is angling for the DoF role by being better at this transfer business than anyone else.

 

[GMI]

Keep diving in and out of this thread, wondering ….

where is all this Chelsea chat coming from ? Even if there is some sort of rumours flying about … I’m sorry can’t see it, NO WAY Kane goes to Chelsea, no way in hell.

Also, good on Kane for this latest statement

It’s people catastrophising which has been exasperated by Poch going there. As you say, unless we are being naive, there is no way Kane torches his long career/reputation at Spurs going to Chelsea.

 

[TheWook]

Keep diving in and out of this thread, wondering ….

where is all this Chelsea chat coming from ? Even if there is some sort of rumours flying about … I’m sorry can’t see it, NO WAY Kane goes to Chelsea, no way in hell.

Also, good on Kane for this latest statement

I've only seen one person mention it, and on several posts, guess they have some fixation on it for some reason.

 

[Stavrogin]

I think there is truth in it.

I think the market for Kane next summer will be smaller than most assume - thus Spurs could still be his best option

This is unless he'd been given some unofficial offers by various clubs. Who knows what Charlie Kane is up to?

No one. No one knows what he is up to. He could be up to anything. We wouldn't know. No one does.

 

[Rosco1984]

It’s people catastrophising which has been exasperated by Poch going there. As you say, unless we are being naive, there is no way Kane torches his long career/reputation at Spurs going to Chelsea.

yeah theres no way a club legend like Kane or Hoddle could ever go to chelsea and be viewed the same way after

 

[DiVaio]

This PR briefing from Kane’s camp is a masterclass.

Pretty much says either strengthen the team significantly so we can push on or sell me before the 13th. Do neither and I leave on a free.

Puts all of the pressure on Levy.

How exactly this is putting all of the pressure on Levy though?
Either way Kane wouldn't leave this summer without Levy agreeing the price he wants for Kane and now if you want to believe this briefing he won't force/even doesn't want a move after Brentford game.
So I would say if anything this is putting all of the pressure on Bayern to quickly improve their offer to something remotely acceptable