Harry Kane

[spurs mental]

The irony here is the stadium has been built to generate money but can cost them a fortune if we are not fairly successful say CL qualification.

The stadium has also been shut for over a year. Nobody could have foreseen the pandemic hitting just over a year after we moved in.

It's tough, but Levy has invested well in both summers since we've moved in, and I think he will do so again this summer. It's make or break this time round.

 

[shelfboy68]

The stadium has also been shut for over a year. Nobody could have foreseen the pandemic hitting just over a year after we moved in.

It's tough, but Levy has invested well in both summers since we've moved in, and I think he will do so again this summer. It's make or break this time round.

The pandemic has hit everyone hard but if they don't invest they will hit us harder and for longer.

 

[DiVaio]

The irony here is the stadium has been built to generate money but can cost them a fortune if we are not fairly successful say CL qualification.

Well I would say the new stadium is the reason we can afford to not have fairly successful CL qualication.

 

[shelfboy68]

Well I would say the new stadium is the reason we can afford to not have fairly successful CL qualication.

Levy and the club will want to be in the CL to bring that revenue in alongside the additional stadium money.

 

[Spursberg]

Levy and the club will want to be in the CL to bring that revenue in alongside the additional stadium money.

Yes i think they want to be in CL, ,but i do not think they are willing to invest to be there, they will invest to keep us around EL area and hope for a CL spot, lets not fool ourselves. He said he invested 250 mill on players,, but there is a difference in buying 3-4 players for hat amount you really know will make a difference and not "investing" in 8 players he hopes will do a difference. We are living in denial if we think anything will change.

 

[DiVaio]

but there is a difference in buying 3-4 players for hat amount you really know will make a difference

It's exactly what we did in summer 2019.

 

[shelfboy68]

Yes i think they want to be in CL, ,but i do not think they are willing to invest to be there, they will invest to keep us around EL area and hope for a CL spot, lets not fool ourselves. He said he invested 250 mill on players,, but there is a difference in buying 3-4 players for hat amount you really know will make a difference and not "investing" in 8 players he hopes will do a difference. We are living in denial if we think anything will change.

Yes I think your right there is probably no chance of decent investment the sort that will make a difference.
The aim is to find value in the market on each purchase not wish the drive to push on.

 

[PLTuck]

We are not a big club. There is a reason why everyone laughed at our inclusion in the ESL.

Are you Chelsea in disguise?

Not a big club ?

 

[Spursberg]

It's exactly what we did in summer 2019.

Did we spend 250 mil on 3-4 plyers that summer? please tell me who we bought?

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Truly won’t understand Kane wanting to leave to win trophies at City when the fans celebrate winning the league by having a tea party of 50 outside of the stadium. Give me winning absolutely nothing playing for boyhood club than winning at a soulless piece of shit.

 

[shelfboy68]

We are not a big club. There is a reason why everyone laughed at our inclusion in the ESL.

We try to act like the big elite clubs but let ourselves down on a regular basis in true style which is why we get laughed at.

 

[panoma]

The worst thing is that even if we keep Kane we won't be going anywhere, we still won't show the required ambition.

If anything we're going plenty of places next season. I bet the conference league will take us where few professional footballers ever been before.

Can only hope Harry fancy making history with us conquering the Conference leage (or at least reaching the quarter final before getting knocked out by some part time fisherman/footballers).

 

[Nerine]

Don’t we have that overdraft facility to use that we hear so much about?
Maybe we could put it to good use for a change.

 

[Tucker]

Not true i was still screaming for us to get a CB more than anything else.

I think you need to learn the difference between “most of us were happy“ and “everyone was happy.”

 

[EireYid]

The thing i find weird is that everyone in football still believes 28/29/30 etc. Is the age players are coming to the end of their career with not many years left as is the notion around Kane having to leave now if he wants any chance at winning trophies. I believe we've moved into a different time now where players are actually prolonging their career and not actually hitting their peak until their 30s. You have to look at the likes of Ibrahimovich and Lewandoski as examples. Players health and fitness have moved on, Kane easily has another 10 years at the top level, he knows this himself. It baffles me so many people in football are still living in the olden days regarding this.

 

[Tucker]

The thing i find weird is that everyone in football still believes 28/29/30 etc. Is the age players are coming to the end of their career with not many years left as is the notion around Kane having to leave now if he wants any chance at winning trophies. I believe we've moved into a different time now where players are actually prolonging their career and not actually hitting their peak until their 30s. You have to look at the likes of Ibrahimovich and Lewandoski as examples. Players health and fitness have moved on, Kane easily has another 10 years at the top level, he knows this himself. It baffles me so many people in football are still living in the olden days regarding this.

It really depends on the player and the league they’re playing in. Look at Rooney, who’s younger than Zlatan. Yes players can maintain good fitness for longer now, but not always.

 

[EireYid]

It really depends on the player and the league they’re playing in. Look at Rooney, who’s younger than Zlatan. Yes players can maintain good fitness for longer now, but not always.

I say it has to do with the motivation and commitment of the player as well of actually wanting a career for that long, which judging by what Kane says himself, he does.

 

[Tucker]

I say it has to do with the motivation and commitment of the player as well of actually wanting a career for that long, which judging by what Kane says himself, he does.

I’ve no doubt Harry has the mentality to keep his body in good condition, but I have my doubts that his ankles will allow him to go on and on into his late thirties.

 

[shelfboy68]

The thing i find weird is that everyone in football still believes 28/29/30 etc. Is the age players are coming to the end of their career with not many years left as is the notion around Kane having to leave now if he wants any chance at winning trophies. I believe we've moved into a different time now where players are actually prolonging their career and not actually hitting their peak until their 30s. You have to look at the likes of Ibrahimovich and Lewandoski as examples. Players health and fitness have moved on, Kane easily has another 10 years at the top level, he knows this himself. It baffles me so many people in football are still living in the olden days regarding this.

It does depend on the individual but even if he stays we are miles off achieving anything.
He could in theory stay at spurs and win fuck all like he has done to date

 

[mil1lion]

Kane will not be sold for market value, if he is sold it will be at our value. He is a once in a generation player and England captain. How long has it taken for anyone to seriously challenge the record by Greaves? How long has it been for anyone to look like they could close in on the Shearer record? A record that neither Henry or Aguero could really get close too. If anyone is going to do it then Kane will, if not it will be a long time before someone else does. If Zaha was available at market value he would have left Palace by now, as would Grealish with Villa. Those players could be the difference between relegation and survival. That's why the value they have to the club is higher than the value to potential buyers. That's what Kane is to us, potentially the difference between getting back to the Champions League and pushing on again, or falling back to mid table obscurity.

That brings us to the question of who would be willing to pay over market value for him. You have Real Madrid who are close to missing out on the title today. If they fail then that's a season with 0 trophies. Then Barca who have missed out on the title for 2 seasons now. Both are skint though so there's no chance they can come up with the funds. PSG could with a desperate attempt to try and win the CL but I can't see him going to France. Then you have City who could afford to do it but would they? They're on the verge of winning the treble without him so why would they spend over the odds for Kane? Utd would definitely love too because they really want to catch City and win titles again. Could they afford him though when they have struggled to get Sancho for so long? I doubt it. Would Liverpool having missed out by some distance on the title? I can't see them having the money either. Chelsea would because they want to challenge for the title again but there's no chance we sell to them or Kane make that move.

So really the most possible options are going to come from the Premier League. I'm sure that's what Kane would like as well. So then comes the question of whether we should even entertain an offer from those clubs. We did it with Berbatov to Utd but we've been dead against doing it since. We sold Walker to City but we seemed to be happy to let him go. He wasn't a key player like Kane who has a massive impact on how we play. The only real similar scenario is Bale at a time when we were starting to try and show ambition to challenge the top teams. We only accepted to sell him abroad and I really don't see how the situation would be different with Kane. If you sell Kane to a Premier League club you strengthen their chances of finishing above us and weaken our chances of pushing on. It's essentially admitting that we don't believe we can challenge the top teams anymore. Tensions are high enough against ENIC right now and this would surely push it over the edge. They need to show ambition to win fans over again.

It's pointless looking at the transfer fee of players like Ronaldo or Hazard as well. The likes of Real Madrid and Chelsea have several world class players and they can attract more world class players to replace them. Kane is our only genuine world class player and we can't attract world class players to replace him. We're a club who generally make world class players or sign previously world class players at the end of their career. The likes of Modric, Berbatov and Bale were not world class when they arrived, but they left as world class players. It's possible that with a great manager the likes of Reguilon, Lo Celso or Ndombele could reach that kind of level. It's taken 2 of them 2 seasons and we're still to really see them show that potential, the other is 1 season in so far. The problem is we don't have a striker waiting in the wings to replace Kane. I can't see Vinicius signing and he clearly hasn't shown anything like that potential.

There's nobody with the Premier League experience who will be available to come in and replace Kane with equal quality. That means we have to shop abroad and do something like Dortmund did with Haaland. That means get someone young with potential but they need at least 1 season to settle because they're changing league. For me the ideal scenario is to get someone early to mid 20s with potential to become world class and keep Kane for at least 1 more season. The likes of Parrott and Scarlett are too young at this point, they need to be loaned out next season. If Kane leaves next summer then hopefully that prospect will be ready. Then maybe Scarlett/Parrott can come in as the next in line. That's how to keep the continuity going in a position.