Harry Kane

[hughy]

The thought of seeing Kane play against us and scoring is enough to make me throw up

Since he's played in the Premier League we're the only club he hasn't scored against (excluding 2 or 3 own goals).

Let's keep it that way.

 

[thebenjamin]

But it didn't work. I get why he did it but I've seen this kind of thing in the past. Taking unfit players to World Cup finals and the gamble doesn't pay off. A top manager is brutal and should play the fittest team not one to please the crowd.

Kane had been in full training for 3 whole weeks before the final. There's not a manager on earth who wouldn't have started him.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Kane had been in full training for 3 whole weeks before the final. There's not a manager on earth who wouldn't have started him.

I don’t agree with that on the back of some fantastic results whilst Kane was out and no small matter of a hattrick from Moura in the CL semi final

We’ll never know but I reckon plenty of top managers would have started Kane on the bench

 

[Duke of Northumberland]

As much as I want to keep Kane and love him. If a player leaves a club because he cant win anything there when he will have played 3 cup finals including the biggest there is and been in two tight title chases that's a total load of crap. Score the one on one against Schmeichel just before Leicester scored in stoppage time and we go above Leicester and probably win the league that year. I would understand this spurs cant win anything if we were finishing 6th-10th every single season and not making numerous semi finals and finals but in Kanes time here he has had plenty of opportunities to put in a man of the match performance and drag us over the line in the biggest games he just hasn't. The last 5-6 years we have been one piece of good fortune in the biggest games away from going to the next level as a club to say he cant win anything here is ridiculous.

Yes and if Bale and Modric had stayed they would have played in the peak Pochettino years with Kane, Son. Eriksen, Dembele and the League's strongest defence- does anyone think we wouldn't have turned those Runners-Up places into Firsts? But we have this cycle of having our best players leave because they can't see trophies in the short-term. It is so frustrating. Levy has been trying to break that cycle by keeping them but that hasn't worked well.

How great would be if Kane ends up staying and wins the league with Spurs in 2 or 3 years. What a legend he would be then.

 

[SUIYHA]

Think about this for a second, imagine telling Messi or Ronaldo they can't play in the CL final because they are not 100% match fit, they'd laugh in your face, you'd argue that they are both better than Kane and they command more standing and respect from their club but the point still stands, they are their star players - you don't drop these players for matches like these, it doesn't work like that.

There was a CL knockout game between Barca and PSG a few years ago where Messi had gone off injured in the first leg in Paris and for the return at the Nou Camp he was only fit enough to make the bench. PSG scored, took the lead on aggregate and were dominating the game, but then in the second half then the cameras cut to Messi on the touchline getting ready to come on and there was this huge roar through the crowd - suddenly the whole team was rejuvenated. Even though he didn't score himself, the lift he gave the team from his presence alone was the injection they needed to swing the balance and get a winner.

I take the point that it's different in the final, but I do keep thinking what a moment we could have had if we'd been playing in a tight game that could have tipped either way and with 20 minutes to go, and then Harry Kane suddenly appeared on the touchline with his kit on...

 

[Rosco1984]

Yes and if Bale and Modric had stayed they would have played in the peak Pochettino years with Kane, Son. Eriksen, Dembele and the League's strongest defence- does anyone think we wouldn't have turned those Runners-Up places into Firsts? But we have this cycle of having our best players leave because they can't see trophies in the short-term. It is so frustrating. Levy has been trying to break that cycle by keeping them but that hasn't worked well.

How great would be if Kane ends up staying and wins the league with Spurs in 2 or 3 years. What a legend he would be then.

I was thinking about this the other day. and as everyones depressed with spurs anyway lets throw this out there. Had chelsea lost to bayern we were highly likely in fact i think there was a deal in place for us to sign hazard.

In the off season we signed Vertonghen and LLoris.

We could have seen this!

LLoris
Walker Dawson/king Vertonghen Rose/Benny
Parker Modric
Bale VDV Hazard
Adebayor

Then one season later Kane broke through!! We have literally been shit on by fate so many times.

 

[Montalbano]

 

[BucSpur]

I don’t agree with that on the back of some fantastic results whilst Kane was out and no small matter of a hattrick from Moura in the CL semi final

We’ll never know but I reckon plenty of top managers would have started Kane on the bench

I agree, and its not just hindsight.
Poch was full of "if you deserve it you play" and maybe in the history of Tottenham Hotspur no player in any individual game did more to deserve to start in the final than Moura.

I also think bringing on a previously injured star player for the last 30mins of a final has greater benefits than starting them when you weigh up the risk of them not playing well or breaking down if they started compared to the boost it would have given us around the 60mins mark in that final if Kane had come on compared to where we were at 60mins with him on the pitch having done nothing all game. Kane coming on with us 0-1 down and i think the rest of the match would have been all us as Liverpool were rank too.

Its in the past now but it felt very wrong to me at the time though it is, of course, fair to say that if Kane hadn't started maybe we would have been 0-4 down at 60mins, who knows.

But psychologically to not start a player who saved us in the semi with a hattrick was damaging I think, i'm sure every player in the squad outside of Kane thought "...hmmm, so thats how it really is" however briefly.

Just windmilling at the clouds

 

[Pochemon94]

I really think he is gone this summer, if this does happen i will be extremely upset but why would he stay? we won't be highly competitive for another 2 years with this defense and no money to spend.

 

[Shadydan]

I really think he is gone this summer, if this does happen i will be extremely upset but why would he stay? we won't be highly competitive for another 2 years with this defense and no money to spend.

How is he gonna leave if the chairman won't let him go?

 

[JCRD]

How is he gonna leave if the chairman won't let him go?

Why would Levy want to wait to get £50m less next summer.

Haaland wont go this summer. He had an 80m release clause next summer so theyre all waiting for that but they would already know which club he wants to go to.

Lets be honest, there arent many takers for Kane because of the price tag. No one will pay £150m this summer and no one will pay £100m next summer and before you know it - Levy will be over a barrell.

It is a difficult situation dependent on whether you want to maximise the transfer to draw a line and rebuild or keep a player and no rebuild and we will most likely still need to sell next summer.

 

[Aphex]

Too much smoke on this one for me.

Whether he actually leaves is one thing but the fact he wants to is bad enough.

Kane is 28, there is no way he wants to be playing conference or europa football next season, and we are a minimum of another year away from even playing in the CL again, and that is if things go well.

The galling thing is, with a decent manager we could be where United are. They are no great shakes, but they will be playing CL football. If genuinely wants to join them, we've failed as a club.

 

[Shadydan]

Why would Levy want to wait to get £50m less next summer.

Haaland wont go this summer. He had an 80m release clause next summer so theyre all waiting for that but they would already know which club he wants to go to.

Lets be honest, there arent many takers for Kane because of the price tag. No one will pay £150m this summer and no one will pay £100m next summer and before you know it - Levy will be over a barrell.

It is a difficult situation dependent on whether you want to maximise the transfer to draw a line and rebuild or keep a player and no rebuild and we will most likely still need to sell next summer.

Why would he want to keep his most prized asset in the team for one more year where we have a higher chance of winning more matches and possibly getting back into the CL?, have a higher chance of keeping other good players in the team and attracting other good players because it sends out the right message? Gives him another year to plan for life without Kane?

Also you're forgetting that next year will see the return of fans in stadiums which means more money will be going round and the market won't be as deflated as this year so there is a potential to still get good value.

I think Kane knows he's not going to leave this summer which is why he's put it out there now so that he can prepare the club and Levy for next summer as he'll have 2 years left. Never in a million years would Levy let him leave with 2 months notice, it's more likely he'll be given a year then he'll be off just like Modric.

 

[stormfly]

If Kane goes you can only replace him with Haaland or Mbappe. Maybe a swap deal?

 

[Styopa]

Too much smoke on this one for me.

Whether he actually leaves is one thing but the fact he wants to is bad enough.

Kane is 28, there is no way he wants to be playing conference or europa football next season, and we are a minimum of another year away from even playing in the CL again, and that is if things go well.

The galling thing is, with a decent manager we could be where United are. They are no great shakes, but they will be playing CL football. If genuinely wants to join them, we've failed as a club.

From Kane's perspective it can only seem like we have gone from being a team on the cusp of winning major titles to one scrapping it out for Europa League qualification. That must be incredibly frustrating for him, especially given the trajectory the club was on during the first half of his career. All of the infrastructure is now in place but in terms of results and performance on the pitch we are basically back to where he started with his first major breakthrough under Sherwood.

 

[Thewobbler]

The selfish part of me would be for levy to not let kane go and make him stay until his contract runs out and he will then be 31. We would have him for all his prime.

But the reality is if he wanted out, we need the money to get 2-3 class players and rebuild.

Id throw 80m plus to try get grealish and then use whatever left to buy a striker if we received over 120+ for kane.

 

[TheTanguy]

Another problem with Kane leaving is that we need a new free-kick specialist.

 

[stormfly]

Another problem with Kane leaving is that we need a new free-kick specialist.

You watch him move to another club and start banging them in from all over the place.

 

[DCSPUR64]

Another problem with Kane leaving is that we need a new free-kick specialist.

You watch him move to another club and start banging them in from all over the place.

He has not left yet! ?

 

[Spursmatty87]

Too much smoke on this one for me.

Whether he actually leaves is one thing but the fact he wants to is bad enough.

Kane is 28, there is no way he wants to be playing conference or europa football next season, and we are a minimum of another year away from even playing in the CL again, and that is if things go well.

The galling thing is, with a decent manager we could be where United are. They are no great shakes, but they will be playing CL football. If genuinely wants to join them, we've failed as a club.

What smoke? I haven’t seen anything of substance reported. Even Pitt-Brook retreated by saying anything could happen even signing a new contract (don’t see that tbh).