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FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

rossdapep

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Yea I strangely agree, I think people just blindly say oh he’s a nice guy and he’s likeable, is he? Do we know him? Have players said as much?

He seems like he wouldn’t offend anyone but he’s bland as fuck and as you say quite cold, his statements are all so blanket it’s like he’s trying to come across as relaxed but inside he’s not.

I dunno he’s just not the right fit in any way for our club, I feel sorry for him as he’s probably not enjoying this pressure at all but he shouldn’t have been offered the job in the first place.
well he did donate 250k to poverty charity so he must be a good guy in some way.
 

mattspur1

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I know this sounds ridiculous but I'm going to say it anyway. Its not just the garbage way we're playing. I just don't like Nuno much. Even if we were flying, as happy as I'd be because I care about the team, I'd still not particularly like him.

I know I don't know the guy. He might be bloody lovely for all I know. But I just can't take to him. It's not just because I didn't want him either. But there's something about him that I find unlikeable and I don't know what it is.

I obviously want us to turn things around. But solely for Tottenham Hotspur and not for him personally. I just find him a bit cold. Almost surly. There's nothing about his demeanour, the way he talks, his body language etc that I care for. That's it, I just don't care for him one bit.
It's funny that I quite like the guy, defo more than Jose. I just don't think he has what it takes to take us forward.
 

daveduvet

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… I’m of the opinion he’ll go sooner rather than later if we don’t play positively tomorrow and Sunday - Levy is ruthless business wise …. .we aren’t any better off from a playing point of view than we were under Mourinho… I’d suggest it’s nothing short of a disaster in footballing terms … I feel somewhat sorry for Nuno, & believe he’s out of his depth…
 

Albertbarich

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I still think he is a good coach, he showed that at wolves but he is clearly struggling really really badly and he won't get the time from the club or required effort/buy-in from the players

The club is a mess , you can't really blame him for that.
 

Phil-spur99

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Nope Fonsecca was nothing to do with FP. It was his appointment that made sure that didn't happen as FP wanted Gattuso. Then the uprising happened meaning Gattuso was not viable. Nuno was then put forward by Mendes and FP jumped in feet first.

Well that's my take on it anyway.
That’s what really worries me about FP; the fact that he thought for even a second Gattuso was the right choice. He’s a journeyman manager who lives off his playing reputation. He falls out with everyone and leaves a trail of destruction after him after about 12-18months, which seems the longest he’s spent in a job. The sort of manager who will achieve nothing and end up coaching clubs in the Far East and then one of the Gulf states for massive money.

Then to think Nuno was the next best choice. Doesn’t fill me with much trust in his judgement when it comes to managers. A big worry for the inevitable next manager hunt!
 
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Mackan110

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I think it’s been widely documented it was Paratici that wanted him after the fan kickback ruled out Gattuso.

Levy was said to have had reservations about appointing Nuno.
Or maybe it's what Levy wants people to think ?
He appoint Paratici and if something turns out good Levy get praised for leaving Paratici and if something turns out bad, Paratici gets the blame.
It's win win for Levy

Counting the days until Nuno gets sacked
 

Timberwolf

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Or maybe it's what Levy wants people to think ?
He appoint Paratici and if something turns out good Levy get praised for leaving Paratici and if something turns out bad, Paratici gets the blame.
It's win win for Levy

Counting the days until Nuno gets sacked
It's definitely not win/win for Levy.

If he has to sack Nuno he looks like an idiot for allowing Paratici to hire him in the first place. If Nuno/Paratici do well everyone says "thank fuck we don't have that clown Levy in charge anymore".

The only way Levy really wins is if we become massively successful on the pitch and there's no excuse to blame him anymore. Until that point he'll be on the receiving end of most of the vitriol.

Levy is definitely NOT winning right now and if he's trying to play some kind of 4D Chess to absolve himself of blame he's failing miserably.
 

homer hotspur

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How much longer is this weasel going to be allowed to sow seeds of dissent amongst fans and players? Get rid, he says he loves Spurs but epitomises the entitled culture that has developed in our squad.
Is there actually any factual evidence that HW has been doing this?
 

homer hotspur

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Or maybe it's what Levy wants people to think ?
He appoint Paratici and if something turns out good Levy get praised for leaving Paratici and if something turns out bad, Paratici gets the blame.
It's win win for Levy

Counting the days until Nuno gets sacked
and then what will happen?
Who are the realistic candidates?
 

ShelfWatcher

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I think the Brentford manager might be realistic. If we offered him enough money and promised him new players and he believed those promises...
 

belsunz

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I cant honestly believe you would seriously think that we would look to get rid of a manager after 6 league games. He isnt hopeless he is learning his players and he is very clear on what is required and who can be relied upon after 6 league games. He could be a monumental failure and all of you that think that also will say i told you so, or he could galvanise the squad into the way he wants to play and us to be effective and entertaining and then be a roaring success and you will all say how you were wrong maybe? or just celebrate and appreciate what he has done. Hindsight in sport is magnificent and i remember well all the negative noise about Poch joining and even Harry when he joined and it was 50/50 with the fans then also. We are all aware he has made some big tactical errors as it has been magnified, now the real interesting part is how he and his team responds. There is no rift in the dressing room and everyone is together like in every squad. Always will be a few squeaky wheels in the squad for many reasons but they exist everywhere. Very early days and lets hope it turns around as he got the memo....
You can’t really reduce it to ‘some big tactical mistakes’ though. We are all over the place by virtually every stat available, the football is outright awful and - contrary to Harry/Poch’s early days where you could see sparks - it’s only the fluke 9 points that is the real positive of notice. Combine that with a non-existent touchline presence and pressers that are weird/uninspiring and it’s easy to understand that the majority of fans are not ‘on board’ with Nuno. (And never were in the first place)

It may be early days, but he seems a misfit to me and he will have a very hard time convincing the fans he is the right man for the job.
 
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homer hotspur

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I think the Brentford manager might be realistic. If we offered him enough money and promised him new players and he believed those promises...
Can't see it to be honest. I think that is a proper club with a tremendous team spirit. He might be persuaded in the summer but not during their first season up.
 

JCRD

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and then what will happen?
Who are the realistic candidates?

I look at Villareal today and if they had a top quality striker they would have had four or five... Emery is a decent manager. He can at times play boring football, today they were pretty good to be honest, but atleast he does it with a plan. Nuno has no fucking clue.

Emery wouldnt be my first choice whatsoever but think he would come back with a point to prove and has a bit of charisma about him. Nuno looks fucking miserable. No wonder the players go out with no clue and half asleep.
 

rossdapep

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I look at Villareal today and if they had a top quality striker they would have had four or five... Emery is a decent manager. He can at times play boring football, today they were pretty good to be honest, but atleast he does it with a plan. Nuno has no fucking clue.

Emery wouldnt be my first choice whatsoever but think he would come back with a point to prove and has a bit of charisma about him. Nuno looks fucking miserable. No wonder the players go out with no clue and half asleep.
We aren't the right club for him.

He struggled at Arsenal because they had a number of players who were in their comfort zone, a number of players who wanted easy street and a number of players who lacked maturity - even their supposed leaders.

Emery would need a young impressionable team who are hungry.

We currently lack that. We need to shift a good few on before someone like that would come in.

Those Arsenal players mocked him and treated him without respect.
 

Troy

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I think the Brentford manager might be realistic. If we offered him enough money and promised him new players and he believed those promises...
Good shout here. However, Thomas Frank finally won promotion and is doing brilliantly so far in the Premier league so very doubtful he would come. Valverde and Rangnick are available but both have no Prem experience. All the other managers are working and are in the Champs League and Europa. Conte would not be interested now surely after what he's seen thus far.

Basically if he is sacked Ryan Mason may be the most realistic option. That is scary to think a club of our staure (reaching the Champs Lge Final) have fallen so quickly since Poch was sacked two years ago.
 
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