Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Tyler24durden]

Ralf Rangnick, just saying. Would revolunise us and actually have a plan top to bottom.
To clarify, as a DOF.

 

[Harrier]

Sky Sports reporting Paratici’s ban is in Italy but are requesting it should be extended to include all FIFA and UEFA events.

I’m sure he’ll be out if that’s granted.

 

[GutBucket]

Sky Sports reporting Paratici’s ban is in Italy but suggesting it should be extended to include all FIFA and UEFA events.

No wonder Juventus pushed for ESL so hard. Perez is probably burying some books in Madrid right now.

 

[YB123]

Ralf Rangnick, just saying. Would revolunise us and actually have a plan top to bottom.

All a waste of time under Levy mate.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If it’s a world wide ban we’ll ditch him i would think. Not going to keep him on the payroll all that time doing nothing. I’m scared Hitchen will be back.

Tbh this is actually a chance for Levy to reset things properly.

I like Paratici but we could now hire a DofF who wants to build a recruitment process to play a modern style of pressing, aggressive, possession based attacking football and hire managers to fit that.

Id go for Rangnick as DofF and let him pick the manager.

Full full reset more in-line with the type of football that our fans want to see.

It won’t happen but right now it could actually be an opportunity if dealt with correctly.

 

[YB123]

Tbh this is actually a chance for Levy to reset things properly.

I like Paratici but we could now hire a DofF who wants to build a recruitment process to play a modern style of pressing, aggressive, possession based attacking football and hire managers to fit that.

Id go for Rangnick as DofF and let him pick the manager.

Full full reset more in-line with the type of football that our fans want to see.

It won’t happen but right now it could actually be an opportunity if dealt with correctly.

Love the enthusiasm mate but its all a complete waste of time with Levy there. DoF in, DoF out, Interfere with manager, new DoF in, DoF out. Its a boring cycle.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Tbh this is actually a chance for Levy to reset things properly.

I like Paratici but we could now hire a DofF who wants to build a recruitment process to play a modern style of pressing, aggressive, possession based attacking football and hire managers to fit that.

Id go for Rangnick as DofF and let him pick the manager.

Full full reset more in-line with the type of football that our fans want to see.

It won’t happen but right now it could actually be an opportunity if dealt with correctly.

I like the idea but Levy would most likely kill a Rangnick project.

 

[Harrier]

Paratici will ‘resign’ to save embarrassing the club.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Love the enthusiasm mate but its all a complete waste of time with Levy there. DoF in, DoF out, Interfere with manager, new DoF in, DoF out. Its a boring cycle.

Oh yea completely agree mate just thought I’d throw a scenario out there that could be actioned if we were run by someone who understood what it takes for football success, but alas the new DofF search will probably take 2 years meanwhile David pleat will be back and after the 2 years Hitchen will be re-hired ?

Fucking Levy and Fucking Spurs ? you really really just have to laugh.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Seen we have a Paratici Thread now with the news ? so back to questioning Conte’s 3-4-3 guys ?

 

[Albertbarich]

Think Paratici position is untenable, and Conte will walk if he goes.

Absolute mess and a shame.

His position absolutely is untenable and if Conte walks because of it then he would be behaving like a kid.

I don't think he would though.

 

[septicsac]

Ralf Rangnick, just saying. Would revolunise us and actually have a plan top to bottom.

As a director of football, rather than as manager.

 

[legion]

As a director of football, rather than as manager.

Yeah Rangnick or Edwards would be amazing DoFs

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

This is all getting messy now guys. You want to talk about Paratici and the ramifications of all this? Use the right thread. There's threads being used at cross purposes all over the place, what with Conte, Paratici, the possible investment and all sorts, so help us out and think about it before you post. Cheers.

 

[walworthyid]

The point was to highlight that if coach is devoid of blame, then we can hire a guy next door to do the job. We are breaking records on goals conceded, look utter tripe on pitch, but some say it has fuck all to do with Conte.

This anti-levy agenda is absolutely fine, he definitely deserves it to some extent, but the idea that Conte is without blame that some prominent members on here are constantly regurgitating is beyond ridiculous.

Yes he needs better players, who doesn't, but surely to god anybody with half a brain can see that if you a) don't press the ball, b) don't retain the ball that you are c) very f*cked!

Contes "system" does not work any more. So many teams press now that unless you have highly technical players that can play through it you are going to be under constant pressure.

You either press the living shit out of the ball or you keep the ball from the opposition as much as possible. Those are your options at the highest level in modern football. You don't need to be a 'serial winner' to work that out!

The old "let's not press the ball, let's not keep the ball, let's concede the territory, let's not have any creative players and let's always be outnumbered in central midfield" tactic clearly DOES NOT WORK!

So yes, let's get rid of some shit players and get some better ones, but let's also get a manager that sends his players out in a formation and with tactics that actually have some hope of winning football matches in 2023 not 2016!

 

[spurs mental]

This anti-levy agenda is absolutely fine, he definitely deserves it to some extent, but the idea that Conte is without blame that some prominent members on here are constantly regurgitating is beyond ridiculous

I haven't seen any posts making Conte devoid of blame. And I've seen this line said a few times without example.

Yes he needs better players, who doesn't, but surely to god anybody with half a brain can see that if you a) don't press the ball, b) don't retain the ball that you are c) very f*cked!

Without better players it's very difficult to do both of those things. Look at the difference Bentancur's return made to us on Thursday alone.

Contes "system" does not work any more. So many teams press now that unless you have highly technical players that can play through it you are going to be under constant pressure.

It worked really well for us from February on last season. So the suggestion that it doesn't work is false. We beat City away last season, we drew with Liverpool twice last season. We battered Arsenal last season. Unfortunately key players have regressed beyond anything we could have expected this season and its effecting more of our players performances.

You either press the living shit out of the ball or you keep the ball from the opposition as much as possible. Those are your options at the highest level in modern football. You don't need to be a 'serial winner' to work that out!

The old "let's not press the ball, let's not keep the ball, let's concede the territory, let's not have any creative players and let's always be outnumbered in central midfield" tactic clearly DOES NOT WORK!

Again, it worked last season, especially when we had everyone fit.

So yes, let's get rid of some shit players and get some better ones, but let's also get a manager that sends his players out in a formation and with tactics that actually have some hope of winning football matches in 2023 not 2016!

Getting rid of the manager only works if you do the first part and do it properly, which under Levy we never have done to the extent we need to do it now. And as has been pointed out by Trix, a new manager is going to be asked to maintain and assess the current squad, while re-integrating those on loan or on the periphery.

The main issue at this club is not the manager.

 

[Jamturk]

Yeah Rangnick or Edwards would be amazing DoFs

They have philosophy that Conte doesn't fit in to.

 

[walworthyid]

I haven't seen any posts making Conte devoid of blame. And I've seen this line said a few times without example.


Without better players it's very difficult to do both of those things. Look at the difference Bentancur's return made to us on Thursday alone.


It worked really well for us from February on last season. So the suggestion that it doesn't work is false. We beat City away last season, we drew with Liverpool twice last season. We battered Arsenal last season. Unfortunately key players have regressed beyond anything we could have expected this season and its effecting more of our players performances.


Again, it worked last season, especially when we had everyone fit.


Getting rid of the manager only works if you do the first part and do it properly, which under Levy we never have done to the extent we need to do it now. And as has been pointed out by Trix, a new manager is going to be asked to maintain and assess the current squad, while re-integrating those on loan or on the periphery.

The main issue at this club is not the manager.

People imply that Conte is blameless by making every excuse for him. We have bought players and he has refused to play them. We have aldo had all of our players fit at points this season and have still been dreadful.

Yes we got the points last season but were we really that great? There were a few very good performances but we ultimately were heavily dependant on a single tactic, namely the ball into Kane for Son to run off of.

In all honesty I'm biased, I absolutely detest this style of football. It will never be what I want to see our team play no matter how much we were to win. Not that I believe we would be successful playing that way any way.

I accept that people will look at Levy and feel that he should be backing Conte so that he can win us trophies.

I dont think we would win trophies under conte unless we spent ridiculous amounts of money on the very best players. I think he's the wrong fit for us and I would have Poch back in a heartbeat.

All of that being said, I do think it's time for Levy and ENIC to go because although I would be happier with a better style of football I don't believe we will progress any further without a change of ownership.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I haven't seen any posts making Conte devoid of blame. And I've seen this line said a few times without example.

That's because it's bullshit.

 

[spursfan77]

Quite a good ending to the Alasdair Gold video from last night where he says and I agree with him, that in the next ten days we should do some transfer business irrespective of anything else just to raise spirits within the group. Looking at the fixtures after Man City they properly look like a batch for us to put a run together. But to do that I think we need some changes in the squad for the manager irrespective of his position.