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It will be a telling window. If he's not going to be then I'd rather he went now.This is really confusing. Is he going? I seen some ITK saying he’s going to be backed. Do we know where we are when the window closes?
It will be a telling window. If he's not going to be then I'd rather he went now.This is really confusing. Is he going? I seen some ITK saying he’s going to be backed. Do we know where we are when the window closes?
I agree. No doubt Levy only cares about money and profits. I know that. And I know because of that it's harmed the team over the years. He's held us back where it really matters - on the field.I wish I could winner this 1000x.
Saying “Conte is doing a bad job with our current squad” does not make you a Levy sycophant.
Conte is not the hero to Levy’s villain. They can both be massive issues at the same time, in different ways.
Davies best position now is LCB and in his younger days when he had a bit more pace he was just a squad player under Poch so how would he improve us down the left over playing Perisic at LWB. You would be one injury away from have Doherty at RB and one injury to Davies from having sessegnon or Perisic at LB. Also would you like to see Dier again in a back 4 after the way he performed under mourinho.100% we’d be better playing 433 right now. Drop a CB, play Emerson as the RB he is and put Bissouma or Sarr in midfield so we can actually compete in there.
Hell, if you still want to play 3 at the back in possession, ask Davies to play LB and play lopsided fullbacks.
Some of the these players are not good enough to play 2-3 games a week without mistakes creeping into their game unlike last season when they only had one game a week for the 2nd half of the season.
Players =/= Positions.Davies best position now is LCB and in his younger days when he had a bit more pace he was just a squad player under Poch so how would he improve us down the left over playing Perisic at LWB. You would be one injury away from have Doherty at RB and one injury to Davies from having sessegnon or Perisic at LB. Also would you like to see Dier again in a back 4 after the way he performed under mourinho.
Levy thinks it already hasThis is really confusing. Is he going? I seen some ITK saying he’s going to be backed. Do we know where we are when the window closes?
The issue with Paratici is that he also favours a back three - and is generally a defensive minded DoF. There was talk that one of the reasons we dropped Fonseca when Paratici came in is because he was too attacking. Plus Conte is basically the ideal manager for Paratici.Based on what? Paratici was here well before Conte, clearly he’s not contingent on Conte being here.
Mixed metaphors going on hereThe fact you are writing it shows we are becoming aware of Levy’s sleight of hand now. I’m not buying a pen from his cup. He has tried his shit one to many times.
Two pens, one cup. Starring D. Levy.Mixed metaphors going on here
Sounds like the worst kind of magic trick
The issue with Paratici is that he also favours a back three - and is generally a defensive minded DoF. There was talk that one of the reasons we dropped Fonseca when Paratici came in is because he was too attacking. Plus Conte is basically the ideal manager for Paratici.
you have been going on and on and on for 5-10 pages now, banging the conte is not blameless drum.Because he doesn’t have the right players. So the system doesn’t work. So we’re worse than we would be, if he chose to use a different system.
This is literally my complaint. He’s managing the squad he wishes he has, not the one he does, and it isn’t working.
This is really confusing. Is he going? I seen some ITK saying he’s going to be backed. Do we know where we are when the window closes?
No point comparing ourselves to Barca.Serious question, did anyone of you that say Conte is playing a boring style of football watch him at Inter ? (For example) he play I'm my option a fun kind of football where you counterattack with speed etc.
The problem in spurs is he haven't got the players he wanted and because he know his system work he won't change it to much because our players a shitty. It's all on Levy and Enic for not backing Conte (and all the other managers)
I don't watch or follow our youth teams, but i doubt they all play the same way as our seniors? Like I have said many times, we need to start adopt a philosophy and a way of playing. Look at Barcelona, all the Youth teams play the same way as the seniors so when they are about to break in to the first time they already know how to play. This is something I think we really need to start doing and then appoint managers that share our philosophy. But this won't happen under Levy and Enic...
Several million quid, says you wouldn't...I don't get why Contes even bothering fighting the baord I'd have just walked
As I’ve said before, we need to realise what this squad can’t do to best understand why we are playing the current system.you have been going on and on and on for 5-10 pages now, banging the conte is not blameless drum.
sure, it can be argued that conte could have done things differently.
but, like many others who are trying to put blame on conte, you are focusing on what he had to do, as opposed to what alternatives does he have?
to play 4 at the back means to trust 2 of romero, dier, lenglet, sanchez, tanganga to play in a 2. Conte asked for a specialist CB, like a romero, because a SOLID DEFENCE is his hallmark and the base in which to set the foundation upon. He got Lenglet. And Romero only started 3-4 matches so far because of injury. You would trust Dier Sanchez in a back 2 just to allow Emerson to play RB?
Worse, then who would play at LB then? Davies, Sess, Perisic, White. Really? Davies as the LB?
While knowing that the CM you can most likely rely on consistently is PEH? Who is a great organiser / leader but has no pace and gets beaten far too easily?
And then not forgetting about injuries. sure we did sign Bissouma, Richarlison, Perisic and Lenglet + Bentacur, Kulusevski and Romero season prior. How many times have we been able to play Hugo, Romero Dier Lenglet, Doherty PEH Bentacur Perisic Kulusevski Kane Son as the starting XI with Bissouma, Richarlison on the bench?
you mention emerson. wat other option does he have, with doherty injured and spence not up to par? your retort, then play him as RB and play 4 at the back to take advantage of his defensive capabilities and hide his attacking frailties. fair point if considered on its own. but football is XI players. And he has not started Emerson in the league for a while now.
And in case we had short memories, this was first 6 EPL fixtures all with Emerson starting as RWB (unbeaten in all 6)
Saints 4-1 home win
Chelsea 2-2 away draw
Wolves 1-0 home win
Forest 2-0 away win
Spam 1-1 away draw
Fulham 2-1 home win
7th fixture, Perisic at RWB, Emerson enters the fray with us 3-2 up and we go on to win 6-2 at home against Leicester
8th fixture, we then lost the NLD 3-1 away with Emerson red carded, and fans (including myself honestly) seeing the silver lining of us not having to play Emerson for 3 matches.
GPV passes on 6 Oct 2022, with us drawing 0-0 away at Frankfurt on 5 Oct 2022, squad no doubt knowing that he isnt with us.
9th fixture, we carve out a 1-0 away win at Brighton, no mean feat, playing a 3-5-2 for the first time.
We reverted to 3-4-3 and beat a hapless Everton 2-0 at home.
At this point, most would say that we are still doing decent. Performances not the best, but we are up there or there abouts, and just about managing to scrape through with the injuries piling up.
We repeated the 3-5-2 in 11th fixture against Man U, and lost 2-0
The following pre and post World Cup fixtures, coinciding with the freak streak of us conceding first (starting at Man U above), the rise of Newcastle, coupled with Arsenal perched at the top of the table, losing consecutively to top 4 rivals, made things look bleak. Emerson starts and 3-4-3 unless otherwise indicated.
Lost 2-1 away at Newcastle
Drew 1-1 away at Sporting (Doherty)
Won 3-2 fortunately, away at B'mouth (352)
Won 2-1 away at Marseille (Sessegnon)
Lost 2-1 away to a Liverpool in poor form themselves (352)
Lost 2-0 to Forest in EFL cup where we were so poor (352, Doherty)
Beat Leeds 4-3 at home in last EPL game before WC
Drew 2-2 at home to Brentford on Boxing Day, first match post WC (Doherty)
Beat Aston Villa 2-0 home (Doc) and Palace 4-0 away (Doc), and Portsmouth 1-0 in 2023 before our 2-0 loss at home NLD (Doherty)
So we lost against Newcastle (away), Man U (away), Liverpool (away), Arsenal (home and away) in the league, and Sporting and Forest 2-0 away in both Champs League and EFL cup.
Only 1 point in 18 against our rivals, dire first half football, newcastle's + man u's + arsenal's form, losing NLD at home and this current frustration with lack of progress on transfers (and Conte's contract / Levy games) are reasons for this very negative, pessimistic sentiment. Worse, we have City to come, twice in quick succession, and soon, Milan. So it's completely understand why this thread grows by 30-60 pages per day. Coming fortnight could really make or break this season / club (Conte / Kane).
Is there hope that Levy / Board / ENIC / Club / Investors can come to their senses and back the Manager? With players coming back to full fitness, and with a couple of additions, we can really turn this around!
FWIW We lost that Villa game. It was an awful performance, possibly the one that really started the discontent.you have been going on and on and on for 5-10 pages now, banging the conte is not blameless drum.
sure, it can be argued that conte could have done things differently.
but, like many others who are trying to put blame on conte, you are focusing on what he had to do, as opposed to what alternatives does he have?
to play 4 at the back means to trust 2 of romero, dier, lenglet, sanchez, tanganga to play in a 2. Conte asked for a specialist CB, like a romero, because a SOLID DEFENCE is his hallmark and the base in which to set the foundation upon. He got Lenglet. And Romero only started 3-4 matches so far because of injury. You would trust Dier Sanchez in a back 2 just to allow Emerson to play RB?
Worse, then who would play at LB then? Davies, Sess, Perisic, White. Really? Davies as the LB?
While knowing that the CM you can most likely rely on consistently is PEH? Who is a great organiser / leader but has no pace and gets beaten far too easily?
And then not forgetting about injuries. sure we did sign Bissouma, Richarlison, Perisic and Lenglet + Bentacur, Kulusevski and Romero season prior. How many times have we been able to play Hugo, Romero Dier Lenglet, Doherty PEH Bentacur Perisic Kulusevski Kane Son as the starting XI with Bissouma, Richarlison on the bench?
you mention emerson. wat other option does he have, with doherty injured and spence not up to par? your retort, then play him as RB and play 4 at the back to take advantage of his defensive capabilities and hide his attacking frailties. fair point if considered on its own. but football is XI players. And he has not started Emerson in the league for a while now.
And in case we had short memories, this was first 6 EPL fixtures all with Emerson starting as RWB (unbeaten in all 6)
Saints 4-1 home win
Chelsea 2-2 away draw
Wolves 1-0 home win
Forest 2-0 away win
Spam 1-1 away draw
Fulham 2-1 home win
7th fixture, Perisic at RWB, Emerson enters the fray with us 3-2 up and we go on to win 6-2 at home against Leicester
8th fixture, we then lost the NLD 3-1 away with Emerson red carded, and fans (including myself honestly) seeing the silver lining of us not having to play Emerson for 3 matches.
GPV passes on 6 Oct 2022, with us drawing 0-0 away at Frankfurt on 5 Oct 2022, squad no doubt knowing that he isnt with us.
9th fixture, we carve out a 1-0 away win at Brighton, no mean feat, playing a 3-5-2 for the first time.
We reverted to 3-4-3 and beat a hapless Everton 2-0 at home.
At this point, most would say that we are still doing decent. Performances not the best, but we are up there or there abouts, and just about managing to scrape through with the injuries piling up.
We repeated the 3-5-2 in 11th fixture against Man U, and lost 2-0
The following pre and post World Cup fixtures, coinciding with the freak streak of us conceding first (starting at Man U above), the rise of Newcastle, coupled with Arsenal perched at the top of the table, losing consecutively to top 4 rivals, made things look bleak. Emerson starts and 3-4-3 unless otherwise indicated.
Lost 2-1 away at Newcastle
Drew 1-1 away at Sporting (Doherty)
Won 3-2 fortunately, away at B'mouth (352)
Won 2-1 away at Marseille (Sessegnon)
Lost 2-1 away to a Liverpool in poor form themselves (352)
Lost 2-0 to Forest in EFL cup where we were so poor (352, Doherty)
Beat Leeds 4-3 at home in last EPL game before WC
Drew 2-2 at home to Brentford on Boxing Day, first match post WC (Doherty)
Beat Aston Villa 2-0 home (Doc) and Palace 4-0 away (Doc), and Portsmouth 1-0 in 2023 before our 2-0 loss at home NLD (Doherty)
So we lost against Newcastle (away), Man U (away), Liverpool (away), Arsenal (home and away) in the league, and Sporting and Forest 2-0 away in both Champs League and EFL cup.
Only 1 point in 18 against our rivals, dire first half football, newcastle's + man u's + arsenal's form, losing NLD at home and this current frustration with lack of progress on transfers (and Conte's contract / Levy games) are reasons for this very negative, pessimistic sentiment. Worse, we have City to come, twice in quick succession, and soon, Milan. So it's completely understand why this thread grows by 30-60 pages per day. Coming fortnight could really make or break this season / club (Conte / Kane / Son / Paratici?).
Is there hope that Levy / Board / ENIC / Club / Investors can come to their senses and back the Manager? With players coming back to full fitness, and with a couple of additions, we can really turn this around!
Eek, apologies. Edited.FWIW We lost that Villa game. It was an awful performance, possibly the one that really started the discontent.
I'd have already earnt £19m so I would have!Several million quid, says you wouldn't...